Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
RickG wrote: Dave, Thanks for the explanation. Really, my clients want to improve their browsing speed. Of course, like most people, they associate speed with speed test website such as speakeasy, etc. In order to improve speed you need lower RTT and less congestion/packet loss on any given route. The best way to achieve that is with a proper blend of transit providers and peers. Additionally, having your own hosted speedtest helps. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
Thanks Matt! Yes, the first thing I did was set up my own speed test site on net. On 1/22/07, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RickG wrote: Dave, Thanks for the explanation. Really, my clients want to improve their browsing speed. Of course, like most people, they associate speed with speed test website such as speakeasy, etc. In order to improve speed you need lower RTT and less congestion/packet loss on any given route. The best way to achieve that is with a proper blend of transit providers and peers. Additionally, having your own hosted speedtest helps. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
This has been the case for me. Everyone wants a unique connection to the net in case of an outage. Not to beat a dead horse but back to the load-sharing question: According to the responses I'm getting is that load sharing wont work. So, why do I find so many article sayign it does such as http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=13103 ? -RickG On 1/21/07, Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just picked up a big account here. The owner of a coffee shop chain is adding day trading to his offerings. Someone was trying to sell him two adsl lines. One for redundancy. After laying the idea of wireless as a true redundancy we got the contract for the whole chain. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
RickG wrote: According to the responses I'm getting is that load sharing wont work. So, why do I find so many article sayign it does such as http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=13103 ? Depends on your definition of load-balancing. Traditionally, that means you can balance traffic between your connections on a per-packet basis. Thus, if you have two 1Mbps connections, you can download a single given file at 2Mbps. (That's probably technically bonding, not load balancing. The terminology is a bit fuzzy, and sometimes means different things to different people.) If your two Internet connections are to two different ISPs, that is basically impossible. With a sufficiently smart router, you'll be able to download two different files each at 1Mbps, though, which is often good enough. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
Dave, Thanks for the explanation. Really, my clients want to improve their browsing speed. Of course, like most people, they associate speed with speed test website such as speakeasy, etc. -RickG On 1/21/07, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RickG wrote: According to the responses I'm getting is that load sharing wont work. So, why do I find so many article sayign it does such as http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=13103 ? Depends on your definition of load-balancing. Traditionally, that means you can balance traffic between your connections on a per-packet basis. Thus, if you have two 1Mbps connections, you can download a single given file at 2Mbps. (That's probably technically bonding, not load balancing. The terminology is a bit fuzzy, and sometimes means different things to different people.) If your two Internet connections are to two different ISPs, that is basically impossible. With a sufficiently smart router, you'll be able to download two different files each at 1Mbps, though, which is often good enough. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
And Using two links to one provider does nothing for true redundancy, diversity, and failover.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers Juat catching up on the list after a busy couple of weeks. So, are we saying that all the products that claim load balancing dont work? I can testify that the auto-failover works but the load sharing seems to make things slower not faster. Keep in mind I have not tested everything. -RickG On 1/8/07, Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great points Butch! There are products out there that claim load balancing and failover, but there is only one way to do both, and that is through bonding. Bonding requires that the circuits be terminated in one router on your end and one router on the provider end. The only true failover with multiple providers is BGP, although there are companies claiming otherwise on that also. BGP does nothing for load balancing. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, David E. Smith wrote: This is for the end user cpe side. I'd like to see both fail-over and load balancing but fail-over is priority. No need for wireless. I'll look into the microtik. Thanks! -RickG Rick, keeping in mind that load balancing where you don't control both ends of both links is not truly possible, there is a way to SORT OF get this effect. The problem is that some things have to be treated in a special way when you are using NAT (actually, masquerade, but we won't go there). VoIP, P2P, VPN and a few others come to mind. Either way, there are some things you can do to make this work with MT, and it's not that hard, but it IS a bit time consuming to get it right. As for failover, there are several ways to do this, and some of them are pretty simple. A bit of scripting knowledge is required, but other than that, it is not that bad to do. There are some examples in the manual (as David pointed out) Mikrotik RouterOS manual. In a pinch, I know we've got one or two Mikrotik trainers on the list; you could get them to show you how to do it. You only have to pay for it once, then you can just copy-and-paste the configuration from there on out. :D Well, copy/paste for policy routing is not really that cut and dried. It is best to understand what the policy states, then moving it to a new system is not that hard. As I said, it is somewhat time consuming to get it working, however. Fair warning, I haven't used the RouterBoard 150 hardware I mentioned, but most of their other hardware has treated me well, so I wouldn't expect that board to be any different. I like the 150...it is a very inexpensive solution for a low end router (just $70 plus a case and powersupply). The 153 is only $120 and you can add radio cards. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
Great points Butch! There are products out there that claim load balancing and failover, but there is only one way to do both, and that is through bonding. Bonding requires that the circuits be terminated in one router on your end and one router on the provider end. The only true failover with multiple providers is BGP, although there are companies claiming otherwise on that also. BGP does nothing for load balancing. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, David E. Smith wrote: This is for the end user cpe side. I'd like to see both fail-over and load balancing but fail-over is priority. No need for wireless. I'll look into the microtik. Thanks! -RickG Rick, keeping in mind that load balancing where you don't control both ends of both links is not truly possible, there is a way to SORT OF get this effect. The problem is that some things have to be treated in a special way when you are using NAT (actually, masquerade, but we won't go there). VoIP, P2P, VPN and a few others come to mind. Either way, there are some things you can do to make this work with MT, and it's not that hard, but it IS a bit time consuming to get it right. As for failover, there are several ways to do this, and some of them are pretty simple. A bit of scripting knowledge is required, but other than that, it is not that bad to do. There are some examples in the manual (as David pointed out) Mikrotik RouterOS manual. In a pinch, I know we've got one or two Mikrotik trainers on the list; you could get them to show you how to do it. You only have to pay for it once, then you can just copy-and-paste the configuration from there on out. :D Well, copy/paste for policy routing is not really that cut and dried. It is best to understand what the policy states, then moving it to a new system is not that hard. As I said, it is somewhat time consuming to get it working, however. Fair warning, I haven't used the RouterBoard 150 hardware I mentioned, but most of their other hardware has treated me well, so I wouldn't expect that board to be any different. I like the 150...it is a very inexpensive solution for a low end router (just $70 plus a case and powersupply). The 153 is only $120 and you can add radio cards. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
Another thing for my RD department! Thanks! -RickG On 1/7/07, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, David E. Smith wrote: This is for the end user cpe side. I'd like to see both fail-over and load balancing but fail-over is priority. No need for wireless. I'll look into the microtik. Thanks! -RickG Rick, keeping in mind that load balancing where you don't control both ends of both links is not truly possible, there is a way to SORT OF get this effect. The problem is that some things have to be treated in a special way when you are using NAT (actually, masquerade, but we won't go there). VoIP, P2P, VPN and a few others come to mind. Either way, there are some things you can do to make this work with MT, and it's not that hard, but it IS a bit time consuming to get it right. As for failover, there are several ways to do this, and some of them are pretty simple. A bit of scripting knowledge is required, but other than that, it is not that bad to do. There are some examples in the manual (as David pointed out) Mikrotik RouterOS manual. In a pinch, I know we've got one or two Mikrotik trainers on the list; you could get them to show you how to do it. You only have to pay for it once, then you can just copy-and-paste the configuration from there on out. :D Well, copy/paste for policy routing is not really that cut and dried. It is best to understand what the policy states, then moving it to a new system is not that hard. As I said, it is somewhat time consuming to get it working, however. Fair warning, I haven't used the RouterBoard 150 hardware I mentioned, but most of their other hardware has treated me well, so I wouldn't expect that board to be any different. I like the 150...it is a very inexpensive solution for a low end router (just $70 plus a case and powersupply). The 153 is only $120 and you can add radio cards. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
NO EXPERIENCE, BUT AN INTERESTING ARTICLE TO READ AT http://www.networkworld.com/reviews/2004/0913rev.html CHUCK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers Happy New Year! Hey, I've been testing Dual-WAN routers. I've used Xincom, Linksys, D-Link. The Linksys seems to be most reliable because it has a health check feature. Has anyone out there tried anything else? -RickG Palm Beach Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
RickG wrote: Hey, I've been testing Dual-WAN routers. I've used Xincom, Linksys, D-Link. The Linksys seems to be most reliable because it has a health check feature. Has anyone out there tried anything else? Are you just looking for redundancy (i.e. automatic failover so if one ISP or connection dies, you'll more-or-less transparently switch to the second one), or for bonding or load balancing (i.e. double your bandwidth by using both connections at once)? Either way, building a system with Mikrotik's RouterOS software is probably the answer you're looking for, or at least an acceptable answer. Automatic failover is so easy, even I was able to figure it out; the other fancy stuff you'd have to read up a bit, but it's quite possible. Heck, the new(ish) RouterBoard 150 hardware comes with the software, and the board itself can be found for around $70. Add in a power supply and a case of some sort, and you've got a nice complete setup for around $100. (I'm assuming you need JUST routing here; if you want this to be a wireless client as well, you'd need a slightly more expensive piece of kit.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
Nice article! Thx! RickG On 1/6/07, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO EXPERIENCE, BUT AN INTERESTING ARTICLE TO READ AT http://www.networkworld.com/reviews/2004/0913rev.html CHUCK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers Happy New Year! Hey, I've been testing Dual-WAN routers. I've used Xincom, Linksys, D-Link. The Linksys seems to be most reliable because it has a health check feature. Has anyone out there tried anything else? -RickG Palm Beach Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
David, This is for the end user cpe side. I'd like to see both fail-over and load balancing but fail-over is priority. No need for wireless. I'll look into the microtik. Thanks! -RickG On 1/6/07, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RickG wrote: Hey, I've been testing Dual-WAN routers. I've used Xincom, Linksys, D-Link. The Linksys seems to be most reliable because it has a health check feature. Has anyone out there tried anything else? Are you just looking for redundancy (i.e. automatic failover so if one ISP or connection dies, you'll more-or-less transparently switch to the second one), or for bonding or load balancing (i.e. double your bandwidth by using both connections at once)? Either way, building a system with Mikrotik's RouterOS software is probably the answer you're looking for, or at least an acceptable answer. Automatic failover is so easy, even I was able to figure it out; the other fancy stuff you'd have to read up a bit, but it's quite possible. Heck, the new(ish) RouterBoard 150 hardware comes with the software, and the board itself can be found for around $70. Add in a power supply and a case of some sort, and you've got a nice complete setup for around $100. (I'm assuming you need JUST routing here; if you want this to be a wireless client as well, you'd need a slightly more expensive piece of kit.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, David E. Smith wrote: This is for the end user cpe side. I'd like to see both fail-over and load balancing but fail-over is priority. No need for wireless. I'll look into the microtik. Thanks! -RickG Rick, keeping in mind that load balancing where you don't control both ends of both links is not truly possible, there is a way to SORT OF get this effect. The problem is that some things have to be treated in a special way when you are using NAT (actually, masquerade, but we won't go there). VoIP, P2P, VPN and a few others come to mind. Either way, there are some things you can do to make this work with MT, and it's not that hard, but it IS a bit time consuming to get it right. As for failover, there are several ways to do this, and some of them are pretty simple. A bit of scripting knowledge is required, but other than that, it is not that bad to do. There are some examples in the manual (as David pointed out) Mikrotik RouterOS manual. In a pinch, I know we've got one or two Mikrotik trainers on the list; you could get them to show you how to do it. You only have to pay for it once, then you can just copy-and-paste the configuration from there on out. :D Well, copy/paste for policy routing is not really that cut and dried. It is best to understand what the policy states, then moving it to a new system is not that hard. As I said, it is somewhat time consuming to get it working, however. Fair warning, I haven't used the RouterBoard 150 hardware I mentioned, but most of their other hardware has treated me well, so I wouldn't expect that board to be any different. I like the 150...it is a very inexpensive solution for a low end router (just $70 plus a case and powersupply). The 153 is only $120 and you can add radio cards. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers
I have a Hawking wireless one. Nothing to write home about thought. If there's a t-1 involved I'd think you'd want to use the cisco (or whatever) that's already on the t-1. If you are going to back up a t-1 I'd certainly look at a higher end unit than a Linksys or something along those lines. They'd be fine for backing up dsl or cable but not t-1. Check with the image stream guys. Jeff's on this list. Or check out MT. Butch sits in here too. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Bo Hamilton To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:05 AM Subject: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers Hello fellow list dwellers! I'm in the market for a dual WAN router. CouldI get some feedback on the some that you guys and gals are using. I have some clients using me as a backup for their T1's, so Im just trying to find out wich one's are the bestto go with. thanks, Bo Hamilton NCOWirless.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Bo Hamilton wrote: I'm in the market for a dual WAN router. Could I get some feedback on the some that you guys and gals are using. I have some clients using me as a backup for their T1's, so Im just trying to find out wich one's are the best to go with. Mikrotik with 3 ethernet ports? -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers
Bo, I would use a MikroTik box in an indoor enclosure, The RB532 w/64Megs of ram running OSPF would be easy, fast and as reliable as anything I know. Another solution if you were looking for a rack mount set up would be to get a Cisco router and drop a couple modules in it and do their version of OSPF. You can generally find a good price on some used (but guaranteed) Cisco gear on eBay at a nice price. Mac Dearman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bo Hamilton Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers Hello fellow list dwellers! I'm in the market for a dual WAN router. CouldI get some feedback on the some that you guys and gals are using. I have some clients using me as a backup for their T1's, so Im just trying to find out wich one's are the bestto go with. thanks, Bo Hamilton NCOWirless.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers
If you are familiar with RouterOS a routerboard 500 would do the trick and only run you about $175 Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Dylan Oliver wrote: You might check Peplink.com http://Peplink.com for its Balance products - http://www.peplink.com/productsLoader.php?productName=balance . The 200 supports two WAN connections with max throughput of 30 Mbps, and the 700 has seven WAN ports with max throughput of 350 Mbps. They are $845 and $3995, respectively. I've been watching these guys with interest, and was happy to see their Surf product selected as the first Tropos-approved client bridge. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC !DSPAM:16,4496b95d180887450237654! -- Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers
Thanks everyone for all the feedback!!! Bo On 6/19/06, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are familiar with RouterOS a routerboard 500 would do the trickand only run you about $175 Sam Tetherow Sandhills WirelessDylan Oliver wrote: You might check Peplink.com http://Peplink.com for its Balance products - http://www.peplink.com/productsLoader.php?productName=balance . The 200 supports two WAN connections with max throughput of 30 Mbps, and the 700 has seven WAN ports with max throughput of 350 Mbps. They are $845 and $3995, respectively. I've been watching these guys with interest, and was happy to see their Surf product selected as the first Tropos-approved client bridge. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC !DSPAM:16,4496b95d180887450237654!--Sam TetherowSandhills Wireless--WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers
Title: Message are you planning on getting your customer an AS running BGP? if not -- and you're willing to roll up your sleaves a bit, you can "hack it" w/ some Mikrotik scripting (In my ISP days, one of my customers back in 2002/2003, Larry Yunker actually, was doing this b/n our connection and a Verio T1) -- not perfect, b/c you'd have to "NAT" the backup link, but it kinda works -Charles ---CWLabTechnology Architectshttp://www.cwlab.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bo HamiltonSent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:05 AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers Hello fellow list dwellers! I'm in the market for a dual WAN router. CouldI get some feedback on the some that you guys and gals are using. I have some clients using me as a backup for their T1's, so Im just trying to find out wich one's are the bestto go with. thanks, Bo Hamilton NCOWirless.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers
Title: Message it's a bit more complicated than OSPF if you're trying to backup ANOTHER provider's connection (assuming separate ASes, etc) -Charles P.S. -- ASes = Plural for Autonamous Systems, not that other dirty word =/ ---CWLabTechnology Architectshttp://www.cwlab.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac DearmanSent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:03 AMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers Bo, I would use a MikroTik box in an indoor enclosure, The RB532 w/64Megs of ram running OSPF would be easy, fast and as reliable as anything I know. Another solution if you were looking for a rack mount set up would be to get a Cisco router and drop a couple modules in it and do their version of OSPF. You can generally find a good price on some used (but guaranteed) Cisco gear on eBay at a nice price. Mac Dearman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bo HamiltonSent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:05 AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers Hello fellow list dwellers! I'm in the market for a dual WAN router. CouldI get some feedback on the some that you guys and gals are using. I have some clients using me as a backup for their T1's, so Im just trying to find out wich one's are the bestto go with. thanks, Bo Hamilton NCOWirless.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers
Unlesss your doing BGP/OSPF or something fancy, might want to check out www.hotbrick.com ~$250. You can configure some nice little things(email alert, universal client on LAN, services 'binding', desired loadbalancing %, etc.)in a matter of minutes that would take considerably longer on a Mikrotik(time=money right?). An this is coming from a Mikrotik fan!!! Now if Mikrotik started developing wizards like they have for the hotspot setup... Jon Langeler Michwave Tech Bo Hamilton wrote: Hello fellow list dwellers! I'm in the market for a dual WAN router. Could I get some feedback on the some that you guys and gals are using. I have some clients using me as a backup for their T1's, so Im just trying to find out wich one's are the best to go with. thanks, Bo Hamilton NCOWirless.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
