Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
In this particular case it's actually a very good thing Mark. Part of what's kept us at arm's length in a number of venues is the lack of numbers. The FCC is trying to get an accurate count and this was an existing system for doing just that. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 While you're at it, could you ask them what thier regulatory power comes from? How can they impose fines on a non-regulated business, that does not require thier action to exist? Further, what's the justification in the first place? I think this is the camel's nose and if we don't stand up and tell them to shove off, we'll be steamrollered into non-existence real fast. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 Did you understand 90% of it? We skipped a ton. And I sent a note to the FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form 477 with the FCC by September 1. Here is a link to the form: http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477 Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done. Cheers, Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
Mark Koskenmaki wrote: snip Like Congress gives a rip about small business?Only so as it gives them numbers to pontificateabout. Ghee whiz Koskenmaki - -watch your language!! :-) pontificate sounds like it ought to be NASTY!! -- Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-303-4229 318-303-4231 318-450-4349 - Monroe, La 318-303-4227 - NOC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
Barry at Mutual Data wrote: Hello Jeromie, First, I'm with Mark on this issue. This form sucks lemons. Same Here. But on to the article, I see no reason why I need to submit to a city if I wish to send video over my system. We are not talking YOUR system. We are talking about COAX/FIBER on/in the ROW. I am an information packet sending service. What business is it of theirs? Who cares what is in each packet. The whole franchise thing, IMNSHO, should be a dead issue Sure, we dont need ROW access (I could use it very well and put the local cable and telco out of business, but lets dump it nad give them more of a monopoly) (like telco monopolies should be) since many companies NOW want to build out systems. Back in 1960whatever I can see why a franchise would have been needed to help the cable company bring in video. But those days are over. Did you miss what a franchise is? A franchise gets you right of way access to pull your copper/fiber on poles or trench it. You do NOT need one if you use wireless. If I stream video who cares.. On wireless, no one. Oh they want a cut of the business but not provide one iota of risk or effort to make it work. ROW access is risky for the city, and you. I think that is the definition of parasite. Large Goverment also A better solution would have muni's building open systems that anyone can access, who cares what info is being sent to the customer. I dunno, smells fishy to me and takes control of the network away from me. Not what I want. Hell, I want to build a head end just to be able to stream 100 channels of video to my customers. Sheesh its just MTV, go shoot me.. Please what wireless system are you using that can support 100 channels at the same time??? If your thinking of pulling cable on poles you gotta have permission in the form of a franchise with the city. Same for digging. Yup they take anyplace up to 10% (some places might be more, all ive seen so far my self is 4 to 7.5%). Jeromie Barry Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 1:29:10 PM, you wrote: JR Under the current FCC chairman i have to agree. JR http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2005-08-22-telecom-usat_x.htm?POE=MONISVA JR The only thing i get from that is they now want to alter the franchise JR process to allow telcos to do something JR they already can and know exactly how to do. Add this to the recent JR ruling that cable co's do not need to JR share and you got people on a grass knoll. I agree with Mark that we are JR being setup for a fall. JR Jeromie JR Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I'm quite sure it's only real purpose is finding out where all of us are, and where we are and who we are so we can be easily taxed and regulated. Like Congress gives a rip about small business?Only so as it gives them numbers to pontificate about. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 In this particular case it's actually a very good thing Mark. Part of what's kept us at arm's length in a number of venues is the lack of numbers. The FCC is trying to get an accurate count and this was an existing system for doing just that. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 While you're at it, could you ask them what thier regulatory power comes from? How can they impose fines on a non-regulated business, that does not require thier action to exist? Further, what's the justification in the first place? I think this is the camel's nose and if we don't stand up and tell them to shove off, we'll be steamrollered into non-existence real fast. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! -- -- - - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 23
Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
Did you understand 90% of it? We skipped a ton. And I sent a note to the FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form 477 with the FCC by September 1. Here is a link to the form: http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477 Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done. Cheers, Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
While you're at it, could you ask them what thier regulatory power comes from? How can they impose fines on a non-regulated business, that does not require thier action to exist? Further, what's the justification in the first place? I think this is the camel's nose and if we don't stand up and tell them to shove off, we'll be steamrollered into non-existence real fast. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 Did you understand 90% of it? We skipped a ton. And I sent a note to the FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form 477 with the FCC by September 1. Here is a link to the form: http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477 Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done. Cheers, Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
I filled this out in Feb of this year. Is this a twice a year requirement? Do I need to file again for 2005? Todd Barber Skylink Broadband Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 970-454-9499 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 Did you understand 90% of it? We skipped a ton. And I sent a note to the FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form 477 with the FCC by September 1. Here is a link to the form: http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477 Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done. Cheers, Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
Todd, Yes, this report is filed twice a year. March 1st and September 1st are the deadlines. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Barber Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:49 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 I filled this out in Feb of this year. Is this a twice a year requirement? Do I need to file again for 2005? Todd Barber Skylink Broadband Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 970-454-9499 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 Did you understand 90% of it? We skipped a ton. And I sent a note to the FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form 477 with the FCC by September 1. Here is a link to the form: http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477 Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done. Cheers, Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
Sure would be nice if the font was bigger. Mike Bushard Jr Reliable Internet Services 1st Rate Computers 320-352-7880 Phone 320-352-7890 Fax 320-980-2678 Cell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 Todd, Yes, this report is filed twice a year. March 1st and September 1st are the deadlines. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Barber Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:49 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 I filled this out in Feb of this year. Is this a twice a year requirement? Do I need to file again for 2005? Todd Barber Skylink Broadband Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 970-454-9499 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 Did you understand 90% of it? We skipped a ton. And I sent a note to the FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477 For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form 477 with the FCC by September 1. Here is a link to the form: http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477 Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done. Cheers, Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
