RE: [WISPA] Friday Fun.

2007-10-21 Thread ralph
That particular box is a Metricom/Ricochet mesh radio (now essentially out of 
business).
They offered a 56k/128k service for about 80 bucks a month.
Because of them, many power companies no longer allow mounting to street light 
arms and tapping power from photocells.
Georgia Power removed 4000 of these and put them in the dumpster. Too bad I 
missed out on the dumpster dive.
They used a tower mounted cell site every 4.5 square miles (or closer) to 
backhaul these. The cell sites had 12 30 degree 2.4/900 panel antennas on them, 
multi CAT5 running up and a large cabinet full of routers, switches, and power 
supplies in the building. Many were fed by 4 T1 circuits. The antennas were on 
a regular 3 faced heavy cellular looking mount and they are scattered all over 
the metro areas.  What a lot of tower load to not be bringing in revenue.

The same box is currently used by the Cisco 1510 Mesh radio, but they add an 
Ethernet Connector and an antenna port for 5.8 on the side.

I have disassembled the box you picture, and it has some cool technology.
The 4 rounded corners each contain a 900 MHz patch, with a switching matrix 
inside the box.
The whip is a 2.4 GHz for meshing.  (I could have these 2 backwards, but you 
get the idea)
There is a power supply inside that can tap power from the photocell socket, it 
works from below 100 volts to above 240 volts.

Their meshing technology was very aggressive- if it did not get through, the 
unit increased its power and attempt cycle.  
Their 900 would wipe out some other applications, notably the older 2 Mb 
Wavelan's (see some of Brett Glass's writings).

Since the box is obviously now used by Cisco, it should be available.  

I may be able to source you some of these exact boxes if you really want them. 

Ralph



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Subject: [WISPA] Friday Fun. 

4.  This is a serious request now kids, who makes this enclosure or where 
can I find one like this?! http://www.irongoat.net/friday/enclosure.jpg 
http://www.irongoat.net/friday/ProPTP1.jpg 

I see them everywhere. I want to use them as well as they have already been 
“approved” by the city/utility as attachable to their light standards.

 

Everyone have a fun Friday and a great weekend. Next week will be better. :-)

 

ryan



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RE: [WISPA] Friday Fun.

2007-10-21 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Ralph,

Very interesting read.

As an early Ricochet adopter I'd like to add one of these boxes to my museum 
collection alongside my Ricochet PCMCIA card.  Let me know off list if you can 
come up with a good example.

Best,


Brad



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Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:23 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Friday Fun.

That particular box is a Metricom/Ricochet mesh radio (now essentially out of 
business).
They offered a 56k/128k service for about 80 bucks a month.
Because of them, many power companies no longer allow mounting to street light 
arms and tapping power from photocells.
Georgia Power removed 4000 of these and put them in the dumpster. Too bad I 
missed out on the dumpster dive.
They used a tower mounted cell site every 4.5 square miles (or closer) to 
backhaul these. The cell sites had 12 30 degree 2.4/900 panel antennas on them, 
multi CAT5 running up and a large cabinet full of routers, switches, and power 
supplies in the building. Many were fed by 4 T1 circuits. The antennas were on 
a regular 3 faced heavy cellular looking mount and they are scattered all over 
the metro areas.  What a lot of tower load to not be bringing in revenue.

The same box is currently used by the Cisco 1510 Mesh radio, but they add an 
Ethernet Connector and an antenna port for 5.8 on the side.

I have disassembled the box you picture, and it has some cool technology.
The 4 rounded corners each contain a 900 MHz patch, with a switching matrix 
inside the box.
The whip is a 2.4 GHz for meshing.  (I could have these 2 backwards, but you 
get the idea)
There is a power supply inside that can tap power from the photocell socket, it 
works from below 100 volts to above 240 volts.

Their meshing technology was very aggressive- if it did not get through, the 
unit increased its power and attempt cycle.  
Their 900 would wipe out some other applications, notably the older 2 Mb 
Wavelan's (see some of Brett Glass's writings).

Since the box is obviously now used by Cisco, it should be available.  

I may be able to source you some of these exact boxes if you really want them. 

Ralph



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 7:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] Friday Fun. 

4.  This is a serious request now kids, who makes this enclosure or where 
can I find one like this?! http://www.irongoat.net/friday/enclosure.jpg 
http://www.irongoat.net/friday/ProPTP1.jpg 

I see them everywhere. I want to use them as well as they have already been 
“approved” by the city/utility as attachable to their light standards.

 

Everyone have a fun Friday and a great weekend. Next week will be better. :-)

 

ryan



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Re: [WISPA] Friday Fun. Worlds most expensive gate chain

2006-11-06 Thread Alan Cain

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
One of my tower sites has this chain on the main gate.  It's always 
fun to remember where the key goes

http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/images/misc/chain.htm

Anyone else have similar setups?

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Looks like Ephrata!

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Re: [WISPA] Friday Fun. Worlds most expensive gate chain

2006-11-06 Thread Blake Bowers

South Portsmouth KY.  The chain is over 9 feet long, nothing
but locks.  One of the issues is no one ever pulls their old
lock, and the gate is to a ridge with at least 6 different towers, 
5 of which are rental sites!




Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
One of my tower sites has this chain on the main gate.  It's always 
fun to remember where the key goes

http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/images/misc/chain.htm

Anyone else have similar setups?




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Re: [WISPA] Friday Fun. Worlds most expensive gate chain

2006-11-06 Thread Butch Evans

On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Blake Bowers wrote:

South Portsmouth KY.  The chain is over 9 feet long, nothing but 
locks.  One of the issues is no one ever pulls their old lock, and 
the gate is to a ridge with at least 6 different towers, 5 of which 
are rental sites!


Blake WON!  Now..tell 'im what he won! (grin)

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Re: [WISPA] Friday Fun. Worlds most expensive gate chain

2006-11-04 Thread Don Grossman
Been in that same spot until one day I drove up to the site and the  
locks were nowhere to be found.  Guess the last guy didn't think it  
was funny and hurled the locks into the woods ( leaving the gate wide  
open)


Don


On Nov 3, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


LOL

I had a situation like that at this site once too.  I now have a  
nice shinny set of bolt cutters to my name!


And someone up there has a nice shinny new lock to his name!
Marlon



Pete Davis wrote:
I see these on gates, especially where there are oilfields on the  
site, and several companies need access. Never seen a whole chain  
made from locks, though.


Funny.

pd



We used to have a long chain with lots of pad locks. One day I  
went to the tower gate and found some ID 10 T had shortened the  
chain by quite a bit to tighten it up.


Guess he didn't understand the theory of needing all the locks in  
the loop and not a bunch wagging off the tail like mine was.


Not so funny, George



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RE: [WISPA] Friday Fun. Worlds most expensive gate chain

2006-11-03 Thread Rick Smith
haha.  looks like you could just walk around tho... :)

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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:32 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Friday Fun. Worlds most expensive gate chain

One of my tower sites has this chain on the main gate.  It's always fun to
remember where the key goes
http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/images/misc/chain.htm

Anyone else have similar setups?

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Re: [WISPA] Friday Fun. Worlds most expensive gate chain

2006-11-03 Thread Pete Davis
I see these on gates, especially where there are oilfields on the site, 
and several companies need access. Never seen a whole chain made from 
locks, though.


Funny.

pd

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

One of my tower sites has this chain on the main gate.  It's always 
fun to remember where the key goes

http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/images/misc/chain.htm

Anyone else have similar setups?

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam





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Re: [WISPA] Friday Fun. Worlds most expensive gate chain

2006-11-03 Thread George Rogato

Pete Davis wrote:
I see these on gates, especially where there are oilfields on the site, 
and several companies need access. Never seen a whole chain made from 
locks, though.


Funny.

pd



We used to have a long chain with lots of pad locks. One day I went to 
the tower gate and found some ID 10 T had shortened the chain by quite a 
bit to tighten it up.


Guess he didn't understand the theory of needing all the locks in the 
loop and not a bunch wagging off the tail like mine was.


Not so funny, George

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Re: [WISPA] Friday Fun. Worlds most expensive gate chain

2006-11-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

LOL

I had a situation like that at this site once too.  I now have a nice shinny 
set of bolt cutters to my name!


And someone up there has a nice shinny new lock to his name!
Marlon
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friday Fun. Worlds most expensive gate chain



Pete Davis wrote:
I see these on gates, especially where there are oilfields on the site, 
and several companies need access. Never seen a whole chain made from 
locks, though.


Funny.

pd



We used to have a long chain with lots of pad locks. One day I went to the 
tower gate and found some ID 10 T had shortened the chain by quite a bit 
to tighten it up.


Guess he didn't understand the theory of needing all the locks in the loop 
and not a bunch wagging off the tail like mine was.


Not so funny, George

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