RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

2007-01-15 Thread Ralph
Where do they guarantee anon usage?  I have used both Sunnyvale and Santa
Clara and had to sign up to use it.
No one is going to allow anon usage! Too many things can happen when users
do bad things.
If you were in this business, you would understand. 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kimo Crossman
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:16 AM
To: 'Marlon K. Schafer'; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report
releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

Yes EarthLink and Google are paying for it, but now as the city looks at the
deal compared with what other cities are getting and their direction,
questions arise

MetroFi is giving 1mb speed free to all and anonymous usage is guaranteed
Seattle has embraced Fiber first and only targeted wifi 

-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2007 January 14 20:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released
onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

Whoa, hold the phone there Haus.

I thought that the deal was bought and paid for by EL not Frisco!

- Original Message -
From: Kimo Crossman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:08 PM
Subject: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released
onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over




See PDF
http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/budanalyst/Reports/WiFi/MunicipalWiF
iReport_011107.pdf

Or
http://tinyurl.com/yhysne

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RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

2007-01-15 Thread Kimo Crossman
Ok to Clarify, here is what EPIC says about MetroFi's Privacy policy:

MetroFi proposes an advertising-supported service with a 1 Mbps connection, or 
the same connection without advertisements for $20 a month.

As with many companies operating under self-regulatory privacy norms, MetroFi's 
privacy statement is contradictory.  It claims only to gather anonymous 
information for the free service, but later on the same page, the company 
states that its free service collects email addresses and demographic 
information through surfing behavior and questionnaires.  Email addresses are 
identifiable, personal information.  Furthermore, aggregate surfing behavior 
and questionnaire information can be used to identify individuals.
http://www.epic.org/privacy/internet/sfan4306.html


Wondering if you had any other thoughts on the Analyst report?


-Original Message-
From: Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 2007 January 15 15:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report 
releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

Where do they guarantee anon usage?  I have used both Sunnyvale and Santa Clara 
and had to sign up to use it.
No one is going to allow anon usage! Too many things can happen when users do 
bad things.
If you were in this business, you would understand. 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kimo Crossman
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:16 AM
To: 'Marlon K. Schafer'; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report 
releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

Yes EarthLink and Google are paying for it, but now as the city looks at the 
deal compared with what other cities are getting and their direction, questions 
arise

MetroFi is giving 1mb speed free to all and anonymous usage is guaranteed 
Seattle has embraced Fiber first and only targeted wifi 

-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2007 January 14 20:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released 
onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

Whoa, hold the phone there Haus.

I thought that the deal was bought and paid for by EL not Frisco!

- Original Message -
From: Kimo Crossman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:08 PM
Subject: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink 
Google WiFi deal - says Start Over




See PDF
http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/budanalyst/Reports/WiFi/MunicipalWiF
iReport_011107.pdf

Or
http://tinyurl.com/yhysne

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