RE: [WISPA] VPN and router choices

2006-03-17 Thread G.Villarini
I have had good luck with Netgear FVS 318.  they can establish up to 8 ipsec
vpn tunnels.  About $99 street...

Gino A. Villarini, 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.aeronetpr.com
787.273.4143

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Whigham
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] VPN and router choices

Bo,

make sure that you're that you're not mis-interpreting VPN support with 
VPN services.  Most of the $20-$100 routers will allow IPSEC (the good 
stuff) and PPTP to pass through the device.  But, the only way I know of 
to get any of these to act as a VPN client or server is to upgrade to 
opensource firmware.  For example, the WRT54GL will act as PPTP client 
or server and can act as an openvpn client when you use DD-WRT.  See 
wrt54g.net for info on how to do this.

But, keep in mind that this configuration voids the warranty and any 
support.   Also, the device has 200mhz processor with 8MB RAM and 4MB 
flash.  So, it's no powerhouse.  You might look into linux boxes (to do 
an SSH VPN, IPSEC with FreeSwan, or OpenVPN for an SSL-based VPN), a 
Cisco PIX, or a SonicWall.  I warn you that VPN is not an easy thing.  
PPTP is fairly simple (and it works with win98 clients with no 3rd party 
software).  But, it's also proven to be insecure.

VPN appliances are not cheap (probably $500-$1000 for one that can 
handle any sort of load).  But, you might be able to use a soekris board 
with a linux firmware that supports some VPN technology.  Those are 
still cute and tiny (with plenty of horsepower), but cheaper.

Luck to ya,
Brian Whigham
Yonder Networks

Bo Hamilton wrote:

 Hello list,
 Im looking at setting up some VPN's and I have looked at many routers 
 that claim ease of use.  Linksys, NetGear, D-Link and so on.  I was 
 wondering if someone could tell me what is the easiest router for setup. 
  
 Also, does one have to have a VPN server( i.e Windows or Linux) or 
 does the router take place of this for remote connections.
  
 The senario I have is one central office with 2 satalite offices that 
 connect to central.  The central office having the main VPN router.  I 
 want to have the two seperate locations seen in the network 
 neighborhood. 
  
 Would this be a router to router VPN?  If so what are the easiest 
 one's to configure. 
  
 Im new to the VPN world so go easy on me.   :)
  
 Thanks in advance,
  
 Bo Hamilton
 NCOWireless.com

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Re: [WISPA] VPN and router choices

2006-03-16 Thread Scott Reed




Mikrotik will do at least some of what you are looking for.

Scott Reed 


Owner 


NewWays 


Wireless Networking 


Network Design, Installation and Administration 


www.nwwnet.net 




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From: Bo Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Sent: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:41:37 -0500 


Subject: [WISPA] VPN and router choices 



 Hello 
list,

 Im looking at setting up some VPN's and I have looked at many routers 
that claim ease of use.  Linksys, NetGear, D-Link and so on.  I was 
wondering if someone could tell me what is the easiest router for setup.  

  

 Also, does one have to have a VPN server( i.e Windows or Linux) 
or does the router take place of this for remote 
connections.

  

 The senario I have is one central office with 2 satalite offices that 
connect to central.  The central office having the main VPN router.  I 
want to have the two seperate locations seen in the network neighborhood.  

  

 Would this be a router to router VPN?  If so what are the easiest 
one's to configure.  

  

 Im new to the VPN world so go easy on me.   
:)

  

 Thanks in 
advance,

 

  

 Bo 
Hamilton

 
NCOWireless.com

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Re: [WISPA] VPN and router choices

2006-03-16 Thread Brian Whigham

Bo,

make sure that you're that you're not mis-interpreting VPN support with 
VPN services.  Most of the $20-$100 routers will allow IPSEC (the good 
stuff) and PPTP to pass through the device.  But, the only way I know of 
to get any of these to act as a VPN client or server is to upgrade to 
opensource firmware.  For example, the WRT54GL will act as PPTP client 
or server and can act as an openvpn client when you use DD-WRT.  See 
wrt54g.net for info on how to do this.


But, keep in mind that this configuration voids the warranty and any 
support.   Also, the device has 200mhz processor with 8MB RAM and 4MB 
flash.  So, it's no powerhouse.  You might look into linux boxes (to do 
an SSH VPN, IPSEC with FreeSwan, or OpenVPN for an SSL-based VPN), a 
Cisco PIX, or a SonicWall.  I warn you that VPN is not an easy thing.  
PPTP is fairly simple (and it works with win98 clients with no 3rd party 
software).  But, it's also proven to be insecure.


VPN appliances are not cheap (probably $500-$1000 for one that can 
handle any sort of load).  But, you might be able to use a soekris board 
with a linux firmware that supports some VPN technology.  Those are 
still cute and tiny (with plenty of horsepower), but cheaper.


Luck to ya,
Brian Whigham
Yonder Networks

Bo Hamilton wrote:


Hello list,
Im looking at setting up some VPN's and I have looked at many routers 
that claim ease of use.  Linksys, NetGear, D-Link and so on.  I was 
wondering if someone could tell me what is the easiest router for setup. 
 
Also, does one have to have a VPN server( i.e Windows or Linux) or 
does the router take place of this for remote connections.
 
The senario I have is one central office with 2 satalite offices that 
connect to central.  The central office having the main VPN router.  I 
want to have the two seperate locations seen in the network 
neighborhood. 
 
Would this be a router to router VPN?  If so what are the easiest 
one's to configure. 
 
Im new to the VPN world so go easy on me.   :)
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Bo Hamilton

NCOWireless.com


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RE: [WISPA] VPN and router choices

2006-03-16 Thread Ed Spoon



Netopia at each location. IPSEC or PPTP both server and 
client. Have over half a dozen installs using both DSL and Wireless mixed. 
Models to look at are R910 and 3300 series.

  
  Im looking at setting up some VPN's and I have looked at many routers 
  that claim ease of use. Linksys, NetGear, D-Link and so on. I was 
  wondering if someone could tell me what is the easiest router for setup. 
  
  
  Also, does one have to have a VPN server( i.e Windows 
  orLinux)or does the router take place of this for remote 
  connections.
  
  The senario I have is one central office with 2 satalite offices that 
  connect to central. The central office having the main VPN router. 
  I want to have the two seperate locations seen in the network 
  neighborhood. 
  
  Would this be a router to router VPN? If so what are the easiest 
  one's to configure. 
  
  Im new to the VPN world so go easy on me. :)
  
  Thanks in advance,
  
  
  Bo Hamilton
  NCOWireless.com
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Re: [WISPA] VPN and Router Choices?

2006-03-15 Thread John J. Thomas
There are a couple of ways to do this.

1. You can use hardware firewalls for site-to-site VPN.

2. You can use hardware firewalls and terminate them to a Windows or Linux 
server for a site-to-ste VPN.

What performance level do you want?
How secure does it need to be?
How much bandwidth do they have?
How much traffic do they want going through the tunnel?

John



-Original Message-
From: Bo Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 07:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] VPN and Router Choices?

Hello list,
Im looking at setting up some VPN's and I have looked at many routers that
claim ease of use.  Linksys, NetGear, D-Link and so on.  I was wondering if
someone could tell me what is the easiest router for setup.

Also, does one have to have a VPN server( i.e Windows or Linux) or does the
router take place of this for remote connections.

The senario I have is one central office with 2 satalite offices that
connect to central.  The central office having the main VPN router.  I want
to have the two seperate locations seen in the network neighborhood.

Would this be a router to router VPN?  If so what are the easiest one's to
configure.

Im new to the VPN world so go easy on me.   :)

Thanks in advance,

Bo Hamilton
NCOWireless.com



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