RE: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-08 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
I actually talked to the guys that are involved with this. Several things now, is that they want to know if it is feasible, that is the 60 grand. Second, they want someone to do it, but mostly it is going to be some big company, and they don't think that they can get a local company to do it.

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-08 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Dennis, The reason given in the article for this was so the vendor could incur the cost of building the network. For coverage of the whole county to become a reality they need a company with the resources to do this. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless wrote: I actually

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-08 Thread Jack Unger
Dennis, Thanks for taking the time to talk to the local government officials. I can understand them paying 60 grand to see if it's feasible. I'm sorry that they don't believe that a local WISP could do it. In an ideal world, there would be a local WISP who is open-minded enough and

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-08 Thread George Rogato
Jack Unger wrote: To answer your second question, yes - if Dennis paid me to appear at his City Council meeting to lobby for his company I would be happy to do that. The only requirement would be that I talk with Dennis first to be sure that I was knowledgeable enough about his company to

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-08 Thread Dawn DiPietro
All, If you are speaking of downtown St. Louis. They already chose ATT. But on the other hand if you are speaking of St. Louis County then that is an awful lot to take on considering they want the vendor to eat the cost of the hardware. Regards, Dawn DiPietro George Rogato wrote: Jack

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-08 Thread Dawn DiPietro
All, Also I forgot to mention they want to cover the whole county. But if you read the article you already knew that and I apologize. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Dawn DiPietro wrote: All, If you are speaking of downtown St. Louis. They already chose ATT. But on the other hand if you are

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
A few years ago I ran up a network design that would cover over 80% of my whole country. Redundant feeds, high speed backhauls etc. It would have cost around $1million. AND that would have purchased the first 500 cpe units. It doesn't have to cost as much as people somehow seem to keep

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Tim Wolfe
Hey Gang, After reading this thread for a few hours, I told myself I would shut up and just go away, but I must say, after pacing around the house for awhile and reviewing all of the things that I know in my mind?, I must say something?(Not that anyone gives a rats behind?). Look, what Patrick

RE: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Tim , Great post. I concur 100% with your statements, that's why I would prefer, instead of more unlicensed space, a Wisp Only band with coordination from a centralized organization and payable dues per pop/channel or something similaronly for bona-fide wireless operators Gino A. Villarini

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
I wouldn't bypass the feasibility study, just the $90,000 to perform it. The feasibility study may also be to see who is already there and what impact it would have on existing providers. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
What bothers me the most is the perception of many residential consumers. I can;t count how many sales leads I'm getting now, where the prospect is calling asking to buy service that they can just connect to without an installtion. And when I say its over $19 and has an Install fee, they

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Carl A jeptha
Live by example, gee does that I mean I cannot have that beer now (it is still morning here) :-) Serious, I have no ant. pointing over the biggest town in our county, to much noise. Local grocery store chain in the summer time powers up their wireless cash register for the outside garden

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Jack Unger
Tom, I'm just wondering who should perform the necessary feasibility study for free? jack Tom DeReggi wrote: I wouldn't bypass the feasibility study, just the $90,000 to perform it. The feasibility study may also be to see who is already there and what impact it would have on existing

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Tim Wolfe
There is one thing that I failed to mention, and I thought it very important to point it out?. While I do see all of this happening at some locations, I must say that it has not hampered my ability to deploy or to operate my business?.. There is a HUGE difference between a hack and a

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
I didn't say free, I said Not $90,000. What should it cost to do a feasibilty study for a city? Why does every city need to start from Ground Zero? I'd rather $10,000-$20,000 go into a study with a competent engineer like you, and the other $$70-80,000 go into actually paying an integrator to

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Jack Unger
The guys in the St. Louis area can correct me if I'm wrong but if my memory is correct, St. Louis County does not include the City of St. Louis (yeah, I know it sounds funny). As I recall, the two governments are distinctly different. This proposal may apply only to the area in the County

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Dawn DiPietro
St. Louis County champions regionwide wireless Internet By Clay Barbour ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH 01/29/2007 WiFi users CLAYTON — Tired of its provincial reputation, and hoping to gain an edge in the marketplace, St. Louis County is seriously considering a plan that could bring wireless Internet

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Whats the prupose of the feasibilty study? Sounds like grant money. Would the Earthlink, Google, or ATT use their own feasibilty study? Or is this a non-technical feasibity study? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dawn

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-07 Thread Jack Unger
http://www.westendword.com/moxie/news/county-looks-at-implement.shtml http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2006/12/25/story13.html Elected officeholders,their staff, and local business leaders are not normally technology experts. They need help to understand how to proceed to build

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-06 Thread Tom DeReggi
George, Thats a good point. WISPs are maturing and as they grow they start to demand name brand type gear that will let them scale, which inadvertently is usually certified. Thus larger providers using certified gear. With no disrespect meant, I could argue that some of WISP's straying to

RE: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces

2007-02-06 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Interesting thread, very good points on all fronts. I wanted to point out something, something that the guy who was talking about consultants etc. You are correct in that many people who are consultants don't know the real world implications. Us WISPs have first hand knowledge of what these