Re: [WISPA] WISPCON?

2009-10-29 Thread Rick Kunze
Didn't know this list worked.  I still have it in my filters!

Rk

On 9/30/2009 10:41 AM, Larry Yunker wrote:
 Last I had heard, Michael decided that due to the state of the economy,
 October 2009 was probably not the right time to hold another conference.  I
 know he has interest in scheduling another conference, but the timing must
 be right to draw sufficient interest  demand.

 Regards,
 Larry Yunker


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 Subject: [WISPA] WISPCON?

 I take it that it's not actually happening OCTOBER 2009 like the site
 says?


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] WISPCON?

2009-09-30 Thread Mike Hammett
I haven't heard anything and Bullit is my upstream.


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Re: [WISPA] WISPCON?

2009-09-30 Thread Larry Yunker
Last I had heard, Michael decided that due to the state of the economy,
October 2009 was probably not the right time to hold another conference.  I
know he has interest in scheduling another conference, but the timing must
be right to draw sufficient interest  demand.

Regards,
Larry Yunker


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Jayson Baker
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] WISPCON?

I take it that it's not actually happening OCTOBER 2009 like the site
says?




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RE: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-22 Thread Victoria
Title: Message



Oh well, decided to baby-sit my network and spend the money 
on joining WISPA ;-)
Maybe I will catch you too, at the next 
one.


Victoria Proffer
www.StLouisBroadBand.com
314-974-5600


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda 
PondSent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:36 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] 
Wispcon?

Hey Victoria,

I heard you were back on track. You go, 
Girl! 

Probably will not be able to make WiNOG, but will 
endeavour to get to an upcoming event.

Linda

Linda PondPresidentCustomer 
Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 
(w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Victoria 
  To: 'Linda Pond' ; 'WISPA General 
  List' 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:29 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wispcon?
  
  
  
  
  

  Hey Linda,
  
  How are you doing? Been awhile. 
  Unfortunately I have not been to a conference in 
  ages.
  Had a big legal battle going on with my ex-partner and lost my 
  network for almost two years.
  Have it back now and really busy rebuilding it and repairing the 
  damage.
  
  Possibly looking at the WiNOG Conference next month, but afraid to 
  leave my network... :-(
  
  Good luck in your new endeavor!
  
  Best regards,
  
  Victoria Proffer
  www.StLouisBroadBand.com
  314-974-5600
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Linda Pond 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 
2:10 PM
    Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

Excellent post, Tom.

I have been an attendee and a presenter at 
WISPCON I and II. Once with anOptical Wireless company, 
Plaintree Systems and once with Marlon's startupof 2002, 
WNOC. Both were outstanding experiences.

I personally got alot of value from the 
WISPCON shows, especially meeting the people behind the posts on this 
(and other) lists.

Those WISPCON days were more about the 
relationships. This list has some close roots,and the shows 
then were about connecting, wirelessly and spiritually, 
so-to-speak. I met Marlon and Bullet and Steve Stroh (hiya Steve!) 
for the first time in Chicago, and it was a hoot!Learning and 
having fun are two things that do it for me, especially if I can do them 
at the same time.

I have been away from the directWISP 
loop since 2002,running my own kind of Networking 
business.However, I still enjoy the WISP 
listconversations, and have stayed in touch. 

And am glad I did stay in touch, for I have 
just signed an agreement to work with a company called Arryba 
Communications - whose mission is to provide high speed Internet to 
Rural Eastern Ontario (that's me!).Besides being obvious 
self-interest, Arryba has a very interesting business model, and their 
timing and leadership are spot on.

I would like to attend a spring show, and 
would beinterested in knowing where the best shows are now, for 
its time for me to reconnect with the WISP world. Marlon? 
Steve? Victoria? Where do you guys hang?
Linda

Linda PondPresidentCustomer 
Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 
(w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tom DeReggi 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 
  8:57 PM
      Subject: Re: [WISPA] 
  Wispcon?
  
  Ido not necessarilly think that the 
  quality of WISPCON has degraded that much. Its more thatthe 
  attendee WISP basehas matured, and looking for new attractions, 
  and new shows have popped up to attract them. Once a WISP has 
  went to WISPCON 3-4 times in a row, they start trying shows that offer 
  something different. WiNog offering, more techncial exchange 
  discussion between experienced operators, which has shown to be 
  extremely valueable to the WISPs that have been there done that. 
  ISPCON, for WISPs looking for more than just wireless technology 
  knowledge. As WISPs mature they start to learn that business strategy 
  is more important, and all operations of the busines such as services, 
  is as important as the wireless technolegy. This is one of the 
  reasons I got involved with ISPCON, and think its the best overall 
  show. Its one of the reasons the show is 

RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - OFFLIST

2006-02-21 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message



Hi 
Linda,

This 
is offlist, since I don't want to spam the listserv with Unsolicited Commercial 
Email

The 
next event is scheduled for March 13-15, 2006 -- check our website: www.winog.com for a full list of exhibitors / 
speaking sessions / etc

btw -- 
we're still working out the details w/ the new WISPA board this year, but we've 
got an arrangement from past shows where we offera WISPA discount coupon 
code (use WISPA06 when registering online) which will give a $100 off conference 
registration -- in addition, for each person who uses the code, we make a $50 
donation to WISPA

-Charles
---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 
13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Linda PondSent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:34 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] 
  Wispcon?
  Thanks, Charles. Steve had lots of great 
  things to say about WiNOG. Good work.
  
  When is the next one, hmmm?
  
  Linda
  
  Linda PondPresidentCustomer 
  Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 
  (w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Charles Wu 
To: 'WISPA General List' 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:18 
PM
    Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wispcon?

Hi 
Linda,

This is what Steve Stroh has to say about WiNOG, WISPCON, Broadband 
Wireless World, WiMAXWorld


WiNOG is well-positioned to 
serve a segment of the Broadband Wireless industry that has gone unnoticed 
and unserved. PART-15.ORGs WISPCON focuses on smaller and startup Wireless 
Internet Service Providers (WISPs), The combination of Wireless 
Communications Associations (WCA) two annual conferences, Shorecliff 
Communications Broadband Wireless World, and Trendsmedias WiMAX World 
focuses on much larger Broadband Wireless Internet Access Service 
Providers.

WiNOG targets WISPs that are 
well beyond the startup phase in longevity of business, overall scale of 
business, network, and number of customers, but have not yet grown to have 
their needs met by the three larger conferences. This is a very real, but 
specialized market segment, and Charles Wu, Operating Manager of CWLab, has 
laser-focused WiNOG to serve this segment very well. While WiNOG is an ideal 
conference to attend for WISPs that are intent on growing larger and have 
already started to endure the pains of growth, WiNOGs main audience is to 
provide peer-to-peer experience exchanges between the Big WISPs.

Full article is: http://www.winog.com/austin_2006/vendors/what_i_learned_at_winog.pdf

-Charles

---WiNOG Austin, 
TXMarch 13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 


  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181Sent: Monday, 
  February 20, 2006 6:38 PMTo: Linda Pond; WISPA General 
  ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?
  Hiya Toots!
  
  That last joke you sent me want funny! 
  I'd have beaten the biker dude! LOL
  
  Anyhow, which show you should go to really 
  depends on what you want to do. If I had my way I'd go to ALL of 
  them. They ALL have something to offer if you're willing to listen 
  and learn.
  
  I just got back from the annual www.ec-expo.com. That's a free 
  show with lots of product specific stuff. There's a GREAT group that 
  goes to this one and lots of help is available. Charles, Matt, I, 
  Damien (Tranzeo), and a few others (forgive me) had a very good very high 
  level chat about a number of things. I picked up quite a few new 
  bits from here and there. AND I ran into David Huges. I hope I 
  am half as with it at 78 as he is! (Yeah yeah, I'm already half as 
  good. Har har grin)
  
  WISPCON has always been about nothing but 
  wisps.
  
  WCA is more carrier based.
  
  ISPCon is a GREAT show. The wireless 
  track is light as there's usually only one track. But there's a lot 
  to running a wisp than just wireless stuff.
  
  I think about the best mix would be to go to 
  one or two different ones each year.
  
  That help?
  Marlon(509) 
  982-2181 
  Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 
  (Vonage) 
  Consulting services42846865 
  (icq) 
  And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Linda Pond 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 
2:10 PM
    Subject: Re: [WISP

Re: [WISPA] Wispcon? - OFFLIST

2006-02-21 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Title: Message



When this happens, I always feel better... At 
least I know other people aren't perfect, too :)




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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Charles Wu 
  To: 'Linda Pond' ; 'WISPA General 
  List' 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:03 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - 
  OFFLIST
  
  Hi 
  Linda,
  
  This 
  is offlist, since I don't want to spam the listserv with Unsolicited 
  Commercial Email
  
  The 
  next event is scheduled for March 13-15, 2006 -- check our website: www.winog.com for a full list of exhibitors / 
  speaking sessions / etc
  
  btw 
  -- we're still working out the details w/ the new WISPA board this year, but 
  we've got an arrangement from past shows where we offera WISPA discount 
  coupon code (use WISPA06 when registering online) which will give a $100 off 
  conference registration -- in addition, for each person who uses the code, we 
  make a $50 donation to WISPA
  
  -Charles
  ---WiNOG Austin, 
  TXMarch 13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 
  
  

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RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - OFFLIST

2006-02-21 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message



doh 
=(

Someone once told me, if you don't know what you're doing, just act 
extremely confident, and people will assume that what you're doing is 
correct

-Charles
---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 
13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Mark KoskenmakiSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:05 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon? - 
  OFFLIST
  When this happens, I always feel better... 
  At least I know other people aren't perfect, too :)
  
  
  
  
  North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence 
  to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at 
  neofast dot netFast Internet, NO 
  WIRES!-
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Charles Wu 
To: 'Linda Pond' ; 'WISPA General 
List' 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:03 
AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - 
OFFLIST

Hi 
Linda,

This is offlist, since I don't want to spam the listserv with 
Unsolicited Commercial Email

The next event is scheduled for March 13-15, 2006 -- check our 
website: www.winog.com for a full list of 
exhibitors / speaking sessions / etc

btw -- we're still working out the details w/ the new WISPA board 
this year, but we've got an arrangement from past shows where we 
offera WISPA discount coupon code (use WISPA06 when registering 
online) which will give a $100 off conference registration -- in addition, 
for each person who uses the code, we make a $50 donation to 
WISPA

-Charles
---WiNOG Austin, 
TXMarch 13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 


  
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RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - OFFLIST

2006-02-21 Thread Victoria Proffer
Title: Message



Hey Charles,

Checking out the conference but not finding location 
details. 
Where is it being held in Austin?

Thanks!

Victoria Proffer
www.StLouisBroadBand.com
314-974-5600


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles 
WuSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:14 PMTo: 'WISPA 
General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - 
OFFLIST

doh 
=(

Someone once told me, if you don't know what you're doing, just act 
extremely confident, and people will assume that what you're doing is 
correct

-Charles
---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 
13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Mark KoskenmakiSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:05 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon? - 
  OFFLIST
  When this happens, I always feel better... 
  At least I know other people aren't perfect, too :)
  
  
  
  
  North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence 
  to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at 
  neofast dot netFast Internet, NO 
  WIRES!-
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Charles Wu 
To: 'Linda Pond' ; 'WISPA General 
List' 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:03 
AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - 
OFFLIST

Hi 
Linda,

This is offlist, since I don't want to spam the listserv with 
Unsolicited Commercial Email

The next event is scheduled for March 13-15, 2006 -- check our 
website: www.winog.com for a full list of 
exhibitors / speaking sessions / etc

btw -- we're still working out the details w/ the new WISPA board 
this year, but we've got an arrangement from past shows where we 
offera WISPA discount coupon code (use WISPA06 when registering 
online) which will give a $100 off conference registration -- in addition, 
for each person who uses the code, we make a $50 donation to 
WISPA

-Charles
---WiNOG Austin, 
TXMarch 13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 


  
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RE: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-21 Thread Victoria
Title: Message







  
Hey Linda,

How are you doing? Been awhile. 
Unfortunately I have not been to a conference in 
ages.
Had a big legal battle going on with my ex-partner and lost my 
network for almost two years.
Have it back now and really busy rebuilding it and repairing the 
damage.

Possibly looking at the WiNOG Conference next month, but afraid to 
leave my network... :-(

Good luck in your new endeavor!

Best regards,

Victoria Proffer
www.StLouisBroadBand.com
314-974-5600


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Linda Pond 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:10 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?
  
  Excellent post, Tom.
  
  I have been an attendee and a presenter at 
  WISPCON I and II. Once with anOptical Wireless company, 
  Plaintree Systems and once with Marlon's startupof 2002, WNOC. 
  Both were outstanding experiences.
  
  I personally got alot of value from the 
  WISPCON shows, especially meeting the people behind the posts on this (and 
  other) lists.
  
  Those WISPCON days were more about the 
  relationships. This list has some close roots,and the shows 
  then were about connecting, wirelessly and spiritually, so-to-speak. 
  I met Marlon and Bullet and Steve Stroh (hiya Steve!) for the first time 
  in Chicago, and it was a hoot!Learning and having fun are two things 
  that do it for me, especially if I can do them at the same 
  time.
  
  I have been away from the directWISP 
  loop since 2002,running my own kind of Networking 
  business.However, I still enjoy the WISP 
  listconversations, and have stayed in touch. 
  
  And am glad I did stay in touch, for I have 
  just signed an agreement to work with a company called Arryba 
  Communications - whose mission is to provide high speed Internet to Rural 
  Eastern Ontario (that's me!).Besides being obvious 
  self-interest, Arryba has a very interesting business model, and their 
  timing and leadership are spot on.
  
  I would like to attend a spring show, and 
  would beinterested in knowing where the best shows are now, for its 
  time for me to reconnect with the WISP world. Marlon? Steve? 
  Victoria? Where do you guys hang?
  Linda
  
  Linda PondPresidentCustomer 
  Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 
  (w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Tom DeReggi 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 
8:57 PM
    Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

Ido not necessarilly think that the 
quality of WISPCON has degraded that much. Its more thatthe 
attendee WISP basehas matured, and looking for new attractions, 
and new shows have popped up to attract them. Once a WISP has went 
to WISPCON 3-4 times in a row, they start trying shows that offer 
something different. WiNog offering, more techncial exchange 
discussion between experienced operators, which has shown to be 
extremely valueable to the WISPs that have been there done that. 
ISPCON, for WISPs looking for more than just wireless technology 
knowledge. As WISPs mature they start to learn that business strategy is 
more important, and all operations of the busines such as services, is 
as important as the wireless technolegy. This is one of the 
reasons I got involved with ISPCON, and think its the best overall 
show. Its one of the reasons the show is filled by executives as 
well as staff from the large ISPs. However, each show has its unique 
benefits. WISPCON has a tremendous amount to offer a newbie WISP, who 
has one primary goal, to learn what Wireless is about. I'd argue that 
WISPCON is probably the best show for a new technican to learn more 
about wireless. ISPCON has been fantastic for people deciding 
whether they should get into wireless. WiNog, for advanced WISPs. 
However, this is a very generalized summary. You can find a little bit 
about everything from all the shows. 

My personal opinion is, that if someone had 
to chose just one show to attend, it would be ISPCON. Because it offers 
a little about everything, because it has the funding and experience 
management to be nothing but top professional.Its also has a 
VERY strong advisory board of experts that help direct its 
direction.However, that opinion is not meant to take 
anything away from the other shows. Look carefully at the show 
 

RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - OFFLIST

2006-02-21 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message



Hi 
Victoria,

It is 
being held at the Hilton Austin Airport -- which incidentally happens to be a 
Southwest Airlines destination

http://www.winog.com/austin_2006/hotel.htm

We've 
set up free airport transportation to/and from the hotel -- and a killer hotel 
room rate of $99 / night (expedia.com lists the Hilton at $179 / 
night)


-Charles


---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 
13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Victoria ProfferSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:23 
  PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? 
  - OFFLIST
  Hey Charles,
  
  Checking out the conference but not finding location 
  details. 
  Where is it being held in Austin?
  
  Thanks!
  
  Victoria Proffer
  www.StLouisBroadBand.com
  314-974-5600
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles 
  WuSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:14 PMTo: 'WISPA 
  General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - 
  OFFLIST
  
  doh 
  =(
  
  Someone once told me, if you don't know what you're doing, just act 
  extremely confident, and people will assume that what you're doing is 
  correct
  
  -Charles
  ---WiNOG Austin, 
  TXMarch 13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 
  
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Mark KoskenmakiSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:05 
PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon? 
- OFFLIST
When this happens, I always feel 
better... At least I know other people aren't perfect, too 
:)




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WIRES!-

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Charles Wu 
  To: 'Linda Pond' ; 'WISPA General 
  List' 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 
  10:03 AM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - 
  OFFLIST
  
  Hi Linda,
  
  This is offlist, since I don't want to spam the listserv with 
  Unsolicited Commercial Email
  
  The next event is scheduled for March 13-15, 2006 -- check our 
  website: www.winog.com for a full list 
  of exhibitors / speaking sessions / etc
  
  btw -- we're still working out the details w/ the new WISPA board 
  this year, but we've got an arrangement from past shows where we 
  offera WISPA discount coupon code (use WISPA06 when registering 
  online) which will give a $100 off conference registration -- in addition, 
  for each person who uses the code, we make a $50 donation to 
  WISPA
  
  -Charles
  ---WiNOG Austin, 
  TXMarch 13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181



Hiya Toots!

That last joke you sent me want funny! I'd 
have beaten the biker dude! LOL

Anyhow, which show you should go to really depends 
on what you want to do. If I had my way I'd go to ALL of them. They 
ALL have something to offer if you're willing to listen and 
learn.

I just got back from the annual www.ec-expo.com. That's a free show with 
lots of product specific stuff. There's a GREAT group that goes to this 
one and lots of help is available. Charles, Matt, I, Damien (Tranzeo), and 
a few others (forgive me) had a very good very high level chat about a number of 
things. I picked up quite a few new bits from here and there. AND I 
ran into David Huges. I hope I am half as with it at 78 as he is! 
(Yeah yeah, I'm already half as good. Har har grin)

WISPCON has always been about nothing but 
wisps.

WCA is more carrier based.

ISPCon is a GREAT show. The wireless track is 
light as there's usually only one track. But there's a lot to running a 
wisp than just wireless stuff.

I think about the best mix would be to go to one or 
two different ones each year.

That help?
Marlon(509) 
982-2181 
Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 
(Vonage) 
Consulting services42846865 
(icq) 
And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Linda Pond 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:10 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?
  
  Excellent post, Tom.
  
  I have been an attendee and a presenter at 
  WISPCON I and II. Once with anOptical Wireless company, Plaintree 
  Systems and once with Marlon's startupof 2002, WNOC. Both were 
  outstanding experiences.
  
  I personally got alot of value from the WISPCON 
  shows, especially meeting the people behind the posts on this (and other) 
  lists.
  
  Those WISPCON days were more about the 
  relationships. This list has some close roots,and the shows then 
  were about connecting, wirelessly and spiritually, so-to-speak. I met 
  Marlon and Bullet and Steve Stroh (hiya Steve!) for the first time in Chicago, 
  and it was a hoot!Learning and having fun are two things that do it for 
  me, especially if I can do them at the same time.
  
  I have been away from the directWISP loop 
  since 2002,running my own kind of Networking 
  business.However, I still enjoy the WISP listconversations, 
  and have stayed in touch. 
  
  And am glad I did stay in touch, for I have just 
  signed an agreement to work with a company called Arryba Communications - 
  whose mission is to provide high speed Internet to Rural Eastern Ontario 
  (that's me!).Besides being obvious self-interest, Arryba has a 
  very interesting business model, and their timing and leadership are spot 
  on.
  
  I would like to attend a spring show, and would 
  beinterested in knowing where the best shows are now, for its time for 
  me to reconnect with the WISP world. Marlon? Steve? Victoria? 
  Where do you guys hang?
  Linda
  
  Linda PondPresidentCustomer 
  Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 
  (w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Tom DeReggi 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:57 
PM
    Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

Ido not necessarilly think that the 
quality of WISPCON has degraded that much. Its more thatthe attendee 
WISP basehas matured, and looking for new attractions, and new shows 
have popped up to attract them. Once a WISP has went to WISPCON 3-4 
times in a row, they start trying shows that offer something 
different. WiNog offering, more techncial exchange discussion between 
experienced operators, which has shown to be extremely valueable to the 
WISPs that have been there done that. ISPCON, for WISPs looking for 
more than just wireless technology knowledge. As WISPs mature they start to 
learn that business strategy is more important, and all operations of the 
busines such as services, is as important as the wireless technolegy. 
This is one of the reasons I got involved with ISPCON, and think its the 
best overall show. Its one of the reasons the show is filled by 
executives as well as staff from the large ISPs. However, each show has its 
unique benefits. WISPCON has a tremendous amount to offer a newbie WISP, who 
has one primary goal, to learn what Wireless is about. I'd argue that 
WISPCON is probably the best show for a new technican to learn more about 
wireless. ISPCON has been fantastic for people deciding whether they 
should get into wireless. WiNog, for advanced WISPs. However, this is 
a very generalized summary. You can find a little bit about everything from 
all the shows. 

My personal opinion is, that if someone had to 
chose just one show to attend

RE: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-20 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message



Hi 
Linda,

This 
is what Steve Stroh has to say about WiNOG, WISPCON, Broadband Wireless World, 
WiMAXWorld


WiNOG is well-positioned to serve 
a segment of the Broadband Wireless industry that has gone unnoticed and 
unserved. PART-15.ORGs WISPCON focuses on smaller and startup Wireless Internet 
Service Providers (WISPs), The combination of Wireless Communications 
Associations (WCA) two annual conferences, Shorecliff Communications Broadband 
Wireless World, and Trendsmedias WiMAX World focuses on much larger Broadband 
Wireless Internet Access Service Providers.

WiNOG targets WISPs that are well 
beyond the startup phase in longevity of business, overall scale of business, 
network, and number of customers, but have not yet grown to have their needs met 
by the three larger conferences. This is a very real, but specialized market 
segment, and Charles Wu, Operating Manager of CWLab, has laser-focused WiNOG to 
serve this segment very well. While WiNOG is an ideal conference to attend for 
WISPs that are intent on growing larger and have already started to endure the 
pains of growth, WiNOGs main audience is to provide peer-to-peer experience 
exchanges between the Big WISPs.

Full 
article is: http://www.winog.com/austin_2006/vendors/what_i_learned_at_winog.pdf

-Charles

---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 
13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 
  6:38 PMTo: Linda Pond; WISPA General ListSubject: Re: 
  [WISPA] Wispcon?
  Hiya Toots!
  
  That last joke you sent me want funny! I'd 
  have beaten the biker dude! LOL
  
  Anyhow, which show you should go to really 
  depends on what you want to do. If I had my way I'd go to ALL of 
  them. They ALL have something to offer if you're willing to listen and 
  learn.
  
  I just got back from the annual www.ec-expo.com. That's a free show 
  with lots of product specific stuff. There's a GREAT group that goes to 
  this one and lots of help is available. Charles, Matt, I, Damien 
  (Tranzeo), and a few others (forgive me) had a very good very high level chat 
  about a number of things. I picked up quite a few new bits from here and 
  there. AND I ran into David Huges. I hope I am half as with it at 
  78 as he is! (Yeah yeah, I'm already half as good. Har har 
  grin)
  
  WISPCON has always been about nothing but 
  wisps.
  
  WCA is more carrier based.
  
  ISPCon is a GREAT show. The wireless track 
  is light as there's usually only one track. But there's a lot to running 
  a wisp than just wireless stuff.
  
  I think about the best mix would be to go to one 
  or two different ones each year.
  
  That help?
  Marlon(509) 
  982-2181 
  Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 
  (Vonage) 
  Consulting services42846865 
  (icq) 
  And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Linda Pond 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:10 
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

Excellent post, Tom.

I have been an attendee and a presenter at 
WISPCON I and II. Once with anOptical Wireless company, 
Plaintree Systems and once with Marlon's startupof 2002, WNOC. 
Both were outstanding experiences.

I personally got alot of value from the WISPCON 
shows, especially meeting the people behind the posts on this (and other) 
lists.

Those WISPCON days were more about the 
relationships. This list has some close roots,and the shows then 
were about connecting, wirelessly and spiritually, so-to-speak. I met 
Marlon and Bullet and Steve Stroh (hiya Steve!) for the first time in 
Chicago, and it was a hoot!Learning and having fun are two things that 
do it for me, especially if I can do them at the same time.

I have been away from the directWISP loop 
since 2002,running my own kind of Networking 
business.However, I still enjoy the WISP 
listconversations, and have stayed in touch. 

And am glad I did stay in touch, for I have 
just signed an agreement to work with a company called Arryba Communications 
- whose mission is to provide high speed Internet to Rural Eastern Ontario 
(that's me!).Besides being obvious self-interest, Arryba has a 
very interesting business model, and their timing and leadership are spot 
on.

I would like to attend a spring show, and would 
beinterested in knowing where the best shows are now, for its time for 
me to reconnect with the WISP world. Marlon? Steve? Victoria? 
Where do you guys hang?
Linda

Linda PondPresidentCustomer 
Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 
(w)613-2

Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-20 Thread Linda Pond



Thanks, Marlon. That does help.

Looking forward to reconnecting soon.

Linda

Linda PondPresidentCustomer 
Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 
(w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Marlon K. 
  Schafer (509) 982-2181 
  To: Linda Pond ; WISPA General 
  List 
  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:37 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?
  
  Hiya Toots!
  
  That last joke you sent me want funny! I'd 
  have beaten the biker dude! LOL
  
  Anyhow, which show you should go to really 
  depends on what you want to do. If I had my way I'd go to ALL of 
  them. They ALL have something to offer if you're willing to listen and 
  learn.
  
  I just got back from the annual www.ec-expo.com. That's a free show 
  with lots of product specific stuff. There's a GREAT group that goes to 
  this one and lots of help is available. Charles, Matt, I, Damien 
  (Tranzeo), and a few others (forgive me) had a very good very high level chat 
  about a number of things. I picked up quite a few new bits from here and 
  there. AND I ran into David Huges. I hope I am half as with it at 
  78 as he is! (Yeah yeah, I'm already half as good. Har har 
  grin)
  
  WISPCON has always been about nothing but 
  wisps.
  
  WCA is more carrier based.
  
  ISPCon is a GREAT show. The wireless track 
  is light as there's usually only one track. But there's a lot to running 
  a wisp than just wireless stuff.
  
  I think about the best mix would be to go to one 
  or two different ones each year.
  
  That help?
  Marlon(509) 
  982-2181 
  Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 
  (Vonage) 
  Consulting services42846865 
  (icq) 
  And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Linda Pond 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:10 
PM
    Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

Excellent post, Tom.

I have been an attendee and a presenter at 
WISPCON I and II. Once with anOptical Wireless company, 
Plaintree Systems and once with Marlon's startupof 2002, WNOC. 
Both were outstanding experiences.

I personally got alot of value from the WISPCON 
shows, especially meeting the people behind the posts on this (and other) 
lists.

Those WISPCON days were more about the 
relationships. This list has some close roots,and the shows then 
were about connecting, wirelessly and spiritually, so-to-speak. I met 
Marlon and Bullet and Steve Stroh (hiya Steve!) for the first time in 
Chicago, and it was a hoot!Learning and having fun are two things that 
do it for me, especially if I can do them at the same time.

I have been away from the directWISP loop 
since 2002,running my own kind of Networking 
business.However, I still enjoy the WISP 
listconversations, and have stayed in touch. 

And am glad I did stay in touch, for I have 
just signed an agreement to work with a company called Arryba Communications 
- whose mission is to provide high speed Internet to Rural Eastern Ontario 
(that's me!).Besides being obvious self-interest, Arryba has a 
very interesting business model, and their timing and leadership are spot 
on.

I would like to attend a spring show, and would 
beinterested in knowing where the best shows are now, for its time for 
me to reconnect with the WISP world. Marlon? Steve? Victoria? 
Where do you guys hang?
Linda

Linda PondPresidentCustomer 
Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 
(w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tom DeReggi 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 
  8:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?
  
  Ido not necessarilly think that the 
  quality of WISPCON has degraded that much. Its more thatthe attendee 
  WISP basehas matured, and looking for new attractions, and new shows 
  have popped up to attract them. Once a WISP has went to WISPCON 3-4 
  times in a row, they start trying shows that offer something 
  different. WiNog offering, more techncial exchange discussion 
  between experienced operators, which has shown to be extremely valueable 
  to the WISPs that have been there done that. ISPCON, for WISPs 
  looking for more than just wireless technology knowledge. As WISPs mature 
  they start to learn that business strategy is more important, and all 
  operations of the busines such as services, is as important as the 
  wireless technolegy. This is one of the reasons I got involved with 
  ISPCON, and think its the best overall show. Its one of the rea

Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-17 Thread Linda Pond



Excellent post, Tom.

I have been an attendee and a presenter at WISPCON 
I and II. Once with anOptical Wireless company, Plaintree Systems 
and once with Marlon's startupof 2002, WNOC. Both were outstanding 
experiences.

I personally got alot of value from the WISPCON 
shows, especially meeting the people behind the posts on this (and other) 
lists.

Those WISPCON days were more about the 
relationships. This list has some close roots,and the shows then 
were about connecting, wirelessly and spiritually, so-to-speak. I met 
Marlon and Bullet and Steve Stroh (hiya Steve!) for the first time in Chicago, 
and it was a hoot!Learning and having fun are two things that do it for 
me, especially if I can do them at the same time.

I have been away from the directWISP loop 
since 2002,running my own kind of Networking business.However, 
I still enjoy the WISP listconversations, and have stayed in touch. 


And am glad I did stay in touch, for I have just 
signed an agreement to work with a company called Arryba Communications - whose 
mission is to provide high speed Internet to Rural Eastern Ontario (that's 
me!).Besides being obvious self-interest, Arryba has a very 
interesting business model, and their timing and leadership are spot 
on.

I would like to attend a spring show, and would 
beinterested in knowing where the best shows are now, for its time for me 
to reconnect with the WISP world. Marlon? Steve? Victoria? Where do 
you guys hang?
Linda

Linda PondPresidentCustomer 
Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 
(w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tom 
  DeReggi 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:57 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?
  
  Ido not necessarilly think that the quality 
  of WISPCON has degraded that much. Its more thatthe attendee WISP 
  basehas matured, and looking for new attractions, and new shows have 
  popped up to attract them. Once a WISP has went to WISPCON 3-4 times in 
  a row, they start trying shows that offer something different. WiNog 
  offering, more techncial exchange discussion between experienced operators, 
  which has shown to be extremely valueable to the WISPs that have been there 
  done that. ISPCON, for WISPs looking for more than just wireless 
  technology knowledge. As WISPs mature they start to learn that business 
  strategy is more important, and all operations of the busines such as 
  services, is as important as the wireless technolegy. This is one of the 
  reasons I got involved with ISPCON, and think its the best overall show. 
  Its one of the reasons the show is filled by executives as well as staff from 
  the large ISPs. However, each show has its unique benefits. WISPCON has a 
  tremendous amount to offer a newbie WISP, who has one primary goal, to learn 
  what Wireless is about. I'd argue that WISPCON is probably the best show for a 
  new technican to learn more about wireless. ISPCON has been fantastic 
  for people deciding whether they should get into wireless. WiNog, for 
  advanced WISPs. However, this is a very generalized summary. You can find a 
  little bit about everything from all the shows. 
  
  My personal opinion is, that if someone had to 
  chose just one show to attend, it would be ISPCON. Because it offers a little 
  about everything, because it has the funding and experience management to be 
  nothing but top professional.Its also has a VERY strong advisory 
  board of experts that help direct its direction.However, that 
  opinion is not meant to take anything away from the other shows. Look 
  carefully at the show agendas, and then pick the one that caters best to the 
  needs you are looking for. If you want an ALL wireless show, thats not 
  whats ISPCON is all about. Wireless is just one tool in the 
  shed.
  
  Tom DeReggiRapidDSL  Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless 
  Broadband
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Marlon K. 
Schafer 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General 
List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 
10:02 AM
    Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

wispcons have historically been very good 
shows. We'll see if Mike can get that back.

ispcon should be a pretty good 
one.

wca is mostly carriers and muni these days near 
as I can tell.

that help?
marlon


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  chris cooper 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 
  4:59 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Wispcon?
  
  
  
  
  
SO what do 
most folks here do about shows like wispcon? I attended the one in 
DC last year and it appeared to be sparsely attended both on the wisp 
and vendor sides. I always thought the shows were a good chance to 
get together and s

Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-16 Thread Tom DeReggi



Ido not necessarilly think that the quality 
of WISPCON has degraded that much. Its more thatthe attendee WISP 
basehas matured, and looking for new attractions, and new shows have 
popped up to attract them. Once a WISP has went to WISPCON 3-4 times in a 
row, they start trying shows that offer something different. WiNog 
offering, more techncial exchange discussion between experienced operators, 
which has shown to be extremely valueable to the WISPs that have been there done 
that. ISPCON, for WISPs looking for more than just wireless technology 
knowledge. As WISPs mature they start to learn that business strategy is more 
important, and all operations of the busines such as services, is as important 
as the wireless technolegy. This is one of the reasons I got involved with 
ISPCON, and think its the best overall show. Its one of the reasons the 
show is filled by executives as well as staff from the large ISPs. However, each 
show has its unique benefits. WISPCON has a tremendous amount to offer a newbie 
WISP, who has one primary goal, to learn what Wireless is about. I'd argue that 
WISPCON is probably the best show for a new technican to learn more about 
wireless. ISPCON has been fantastic for people deciding whether they 
should get into wireless. WiNog, for advanced WISPs. However, this is a 
very generalized summary. You can find a little bit about everything from all 
the shows. 

My personal opinion is, that if someone had to 
chose just one show to attend, it would be ISPCON. Because it offers a little 
about everything, because it has the funding and experience management to be 
nothing but top professional.Its also has a VERY strong advisory 
board of experts that help direct its direction.However, that 
opinion is not meant to take anything away from the other shows. Look 
carefully at the show agendas, and then pick the one that caters best to the 
needs you are looking for. If you want an ALL wireless show, thats not 
whats ISPCON is all about. Wireless is just one tool in the 
shed.

Tom DeReggiRapidDSL  Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless 
Broadband



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Marlon K. 
  Schafer 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General 
  List 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:02 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?
  
  wispcons have historically been very good 
  shows. We'll see if Mike can get that back.
  
  ispcon should be a pretty good one.
  
  wca is mostly carriers and muni these days near 
  as I can tell.
  
  that help?
  marlon
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
chris 
cooper 
To: 'WISPA General List' 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:59 
AM
Subject: [WISPA] Wispcon?





  SO 
  what do most folks here do about shows like wispcon? I attended the 
  one in DC last year and it appeared to be sparsely attended both on the 
  wisp and vendor sides. I always thought the shows were a good chance 
  to get together and share ideas etc. Do you value them? If you 
  could attend one show would it be wispcon/ispcon/winog?
  Thanks,
  
  chris



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RE: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-15 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message



Hi 
Chris,

Here 
is something that Steve Stroh (who is a member of this listserv and who speaks 
at ALL shows including WISPCON, ISPCON, WiNOG) wrote about 
WiNOG

http://www.winog.com/austin_2006/vendors/what_i_learned_at_winog.pdf

(P.S. 
-- he wasn't paid by us to do this or anything)

-Charles


---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 
13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  chris cooperSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:59 
  AMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: [WISPA] 
  Wispcon?
  
  
  
  
SO 
what do most folks here do about shows like wispcon? I attended the 
one in DC last year and it appeared to be sparsely attended both on the wisp 
and vendor sides. I always thought the shows were a good chance to get 
together and share ideas etc. Do you value them? If you could 
attend one show would it be wispcon/ispcon/winog?
Thanks,

chris
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Re: [WISPA] WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

As a paid member of p15 or wispa?

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:18 AM
Subject: [WISPA] WISPCon



As a WISP paid member  does anyone know where I can get discount passes to
WispCon in Dallas October 9-11?


Jory Privett
WCCS


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RE: [WISPA] WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread Charles Wu
WISPA was started initially in response to Part-15/WISPCON's lack of
representation of true WISP issues (although you can't fault Mike for it, it
needs to be known that Part-15.org is a FOR-PROFIT organization existing to
put money in Mike's pocket).

Until recently (due to circumstances created by the Katrina  Rita
disasters), there has been ill-will b/n Part-15  WISPA due to the fact that
Mike has lost revenue from WISPA members, and unless things have
significantly changed, it is doubtful that a discount pass relationship
b/n Part-15  WISPA exists

If you're interested in shows (or just getting together w/ other WISPs) in
the Dallas area, Smartbridges is currently in the process of putting
together a North American Road Show

http://www.smartbridges.com/about/articles.asp?id=398

Best of all, it's free

-Charles

---
CWLab
Technology Architects
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As a WISP paid member  does anyone know where I can get discount passes to 
WispCon in Dallas October 9-11?


Jory Privett
WCCS


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Re: [WISPA] WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread A. Huppenthal
Your best bet for a commercial trade show is to approach vendors 
presenting there. Check the site and contact any of the vendors - they 
have a vested interest in selling you stuff and therefore have an 
interest in getting you in the door. The organizers are interested in 
making money off you and the vendors, so they are your worst bet (well 
except for any WISPA yet to be announced meetings :-)



Jory Privett wrote:

As a WISP paid member  does anyone know where I can get discount passes to 
WispCon in Dallas October 9-11?



Jory Privett
WCCS


 



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