Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-05 Thread Lawrence E. Bakst
I can highly recommend this little known vendor based in Ireland.

http://www.stelladoradus.com/dual.tri.band.antennas.php

As noted on the web page the US contact is:
pspoo...@mindspring.com

Best,

leb


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Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?

 

Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are 90.

 

Thanks,

 

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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-05 Thread Paul Rice
We used this Vendor's sectors in university deployments.  I highly recommend 
them.
Paul Rice

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 I can highly recommend this little known vendor based in Ireland.

 http://www.stelladoradus.com/dual.tri.band.antennas.php

 As noted on the web page the US contact is:
 pspoo...@mindspring.com

 Best,

 leb


 At 5:17 PM -0500 11/3/09, Eric Rogers wrote:
Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?



Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are 90.



Thanks,



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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-05 Thread Tom Sharples
They make a decent cookie too

http://www.stelladoro.com/

Tom S.

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I can highly recommend this little known vendor based in Ireland.

 http://www.stelladoradus.com/dual.tri.band.antennas.php

 As noted on the web page the US contact is:
 pspoo...@mindspring.com

 Best,

 leb


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Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?



Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are 90.



Thanks,



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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Rick Harnish
http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane

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Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?

 

Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are 90.

 

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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Eric Rogers
That is almost exactly what I want... Do they make it polar opposite?
Like 2.4 V and 5.8 H?

Eric

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http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane

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Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?

 

Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are 90.

 

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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread chris cooper
If you call John at superpass he may be willing to build one custom for
you.
Chris

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That is almost exactly what I want... Do they make it polar opposite?
Like 2.4 V and 5.8 H?

Eric

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http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane

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Subject: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?

 

Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are 90.

 

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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Are these good antennas that we can compare to MTI, Tiltek, etc or the
generic quality of PacWireless, etc?

I would like to have a 900 hpol and 5.8 vpol if it's a good antenna to
save space!

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:58 AM, chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.comwrote:

 If you call John at superpass he may be willing to build one custom for
 you.
 Chris

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 Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:47 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

 That is almost exactly what I want... Do they make it polar opposite?
 Like 2.4 V and 5.8 H?

 Eric

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 Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:26 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

 http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane

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 Subject: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

 Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?



 Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are 90.



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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Andy Trimmell
I would also like to know the quality. Good question Josh.

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Are these good antennas that we can compare to MTI, Tiltek, etc or the
generic quality of PacWireless, etc?

I would like to have a 900 hpol and 5.8 vpol if it's a good antenna to
save space!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:58 AM, chris cooper
ccoo...@intelliwave.comwrote:

 If you call John at superpass he may be willing to build one custom
for
 you.
 Chris

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On
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:47 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

 That is almost exactly what I want... Do they make it polar opposite?
 Like 2.4 V and 5.8 H?

 Eric

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On
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 http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane

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 Subject: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

 Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?



 Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are 90.



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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread RickG
Rick, Have you used these? If so, how well do they work? -RickG

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 http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane

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 Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?



 Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are 90.



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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Rick Harnish
We used some a few years ago for a vWISP on his original tower install.
Over time, he moved to dedicated backhauls in place of the 5.8 portion of
the sectors.  I can't remember how well they worked to tell the truth as I
was not intimately involved in any installs off of the 5.8 portion.  

Sorry this isn't much help.  

Rick

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Rick, Have you used these? If so, how well do they work? -RickG

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane

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 Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?



 Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are 90.



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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Mike Goicoechea
We have tested different types and found with the dual pol Sectors that
Radiowaves makes an excellent antenna. They offer 2.4v and 5.8h or 2.4h and
5.8v. They offer 60 or 90 degree. We have used 3 90s for 360 coverage on a
tower with great results. If you need further information feel free to hit
me off list. 

Mike Goicoechea 
m...@cielosystems.net 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:56 AM
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Below PacWireless?  That's hitting below the belt.

Any other suggestions for quality dual band sectors?

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 We used some a few years ago for a vWISP on his original tower install.
 Over time, he moved to dedicated backhauls in place of the 5.8 portion of
 the sectors.  I can't remember how well they worked to tell the truth as I
 was not intimately involved in any installs off of the 5.8 portion.

 Sorry this isn't much help.

 Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:04 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

 Rick, Have you used these? If so, how well do they work? -RickG

 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

  http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane
 
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  Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?
 
 
 
  Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are 90.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Eric Rogers
Nice antenna, but it is $1300 list.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Goicoechea
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:29 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

We have tested different types and found with the dual pol Sectors that
Radiowaves makes an excellent antenna. They offer 2.4v and 5.8h or 2.4h
and
5.8v. They offer 60 or 90 degree. We have used 3 90s for 360 coverage on
a
tower with great results. If you need further information feel free to
hit
me off list. 

Mike Goicoechea 
m...@cielosystems.net 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:56 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

Below PacWireless?  That's hitting below the belt.

Any other suggestions for quality dual band sectors?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
wrote:

 We used some a few years ago for a vWISP on his original tower
install.
 Over time, he moved to dedicated backhauls in place of the 5.8 portion
of
 the sectors.  I can't remember how well they worked to tell the truth
as I
 was not intimately involved in any installs off of the 5.8 portion.

 Sorry this isn't much help.

 Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:04 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

 Rick, Have you used these? If so, how well do they work? -RickG

 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
wrote:

  http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane
 
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On
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  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:17 PM
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  Subject: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors
 
  Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?
 
 
 
  Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are
90.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
 
 
  Eric Rogers
 
  Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 
  (317) 831-3000 x200
 
 
 
 
 




  
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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Eric Rogers
But it is exactly what I am looking for... SEC-2V-5H-90 Bummer...

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

Nice antenna, but it is $1300 list.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Goicoechea
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:29 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

We have tested different types and found with the dual pol Sectors that
Radiowaves makes an excellent antenna. They offer 2.4v and 5.8h or 2.4h
and
5.8v. They offer 60 or 90 degree. We have used 3 90s for 360 coverage on
a
tower with great results. If you need further information feel free to
hit
me off list. 

Mike Goicoechea 
m...@cielosystems.net 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:56 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

Below PacWireless?  That's hitting below the belt.

Any other suggestions for quality dual band sectors?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
wrote:

 We used some a few years ago for a vWISP on his original tower
install.
 Over time, he moved to dedicated backhauls in place of the 5.8 portion
of
 the sectors.  I can't remember how well they worked to tell the truth
as I
 was not intimately involved in any installs off of the 5.8 portion.

 Sorry this isn't much help.

 Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:04 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

 Rick, Have you used these? If so, how well do they work? -RickG

 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
wrote:

  http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
  Behalf Of Eric Rogers
  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:17 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors
 
  Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?
 
 
 
  Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are
90.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
 
 
  Eric Rogers
 
  Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 
  (317) 831-3000 x200
 
 
 
 
 




  
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Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Brad Belton
While we've never used this particular RadioWaves antenna I do know you get
what you pay for.  I would imagine street price for this antenna would be
between $900 - $1000.  Considering what some towers charge per antenna the
ROI for this antenna could be pretty quick!

Best,


Brad




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

But it is exactly what I am looking for... SEC-2V-5H-90 Bummer...

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

Nice antenna, but it is $1300 list.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Goicoechea
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:29 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

We have tested different types and found with the dual pol Sectors that
Radiowaves makes an excellent antenna. They offer 2.4v and 5.8h or 2.4h
and
5.8v. They offer 60 or 90 degree. We have used 3 90s for 360 coverage on
a
tower with great results. If you need further information feel free to
hit
me off list. 

Mike Goicoechea 
m...@cielosystems.net 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:56 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

Below PacWireless?  That's hitting below the belt.

Any other suggestions for quality dual band sectors?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
wrote:

 We used some a few years ago for a vWISP on his original tower
install.
 Over time, he moved to dedicated backhauls in place of the 5.8 portion
of
 the sectors.  I can't remember how well they worked to tell the truth
as I
 was not intimately involved in any installs off of the 5.8 portion.

 Sorry this isn't much help.

 Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:04 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

 Rick, Have you used these? If so, how well do they work? -RickG

 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
wrote:

  http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
  Behalf Of Eric Rogers
  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:17 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors
 
  Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors?
 
 
 
  Does anyone know of any that are 120*?  I have found some that are
90.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
 
 
  Eric Rogers
 
  Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 
  (317) 831-3000 x200
 
 
 
 
 




  
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Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector Antennas

2009-02-26 Thread Forbes Mercy
John,

If you really like the 340 cards I'll give you a great price on about
two dozen of them that I have pulled after replacing them with newer
equipment.

Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc.
forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
www.wabroadband.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of John Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector
Antennas

I understand that Cisco is expensive, but it does work. I have clients 
with Cisco Aironet 340's installed that are 7+ years old.
Is it the national pastime to beat on Cisco?

As for antennas, Superpass makes some that might work well for this
project

http://www.superpass.com/SP-MIMO-D1J1.html

http://www.superpass.com/MIMO-24.html

http://www.superpass.com/MIMO-5.html

John


3-dB Networks wrote:
 Right... N relies on MIMO... so antenna diversity is important.  In an
 indoor application this AP would have six small Omni antennas on it...
just
 inches apart from each other.  I don't think the exact placement of
the
 antennas is important, as long as the patterns overlap.  I've never
seen
 anything specifying the distances of antennas... but if someone knows
that
 would be great.

 Either way, a dual-band antenna would cut it from six sectors to
three...
 and not lose any of the benefits.  Might not be cost effective, but I
want
 to explore that.  I'd also hope that there would be an antenna out
there
 that already has the antenna diversity setup inside the antenna by
having
 three elements pointing the correct directions.  I wouldn't think
noise
 would be that big of an issue at the antenna since they will all be
 broadcasting on the same frequency anyways.

 As for what he is trying to accomplish... I wish I knew.  His
application
 does not require 802.11n speeds, it could require the MIMO near and
non-los
 properties... I think he wants 802.11n because it's the next thing.
Just
 like I don't think he should be using Cisco... but no IT guy has ever
been
 fired for deploying Cisco right :-)

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com


   
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:34 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector
 Antennas

 I think the whole idea behind N is antenna diversity Daniel.

 Using less antennas means he'll get little or no benefit from the
 system.
 Might as well just run with a standard b/g system.

 I think antenna placement will also be critical for n.  I could be
 totally
 wrong here, but my guess is that there are specific distances between
 antennas that are part of the magic of n.

 What's he hoping to accomplish?

 Better NLOS, better nLOS, better speed?

 laters,
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:43 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector
 Antennas


 
 I'm helping someone design an antenna system to utilize the MIMO
 properties
 in 802.11n outdoors.  The Cisco box he wants to connect to has three
   
 5GHz
 
 and three 2.4GHz outputs.  I'd rather avoid deploying six sector
   
 antennas
 
 (only need to cover about 120 degrees. so I figured three 90degree
   
 sectors
 
 ought to do it) so would like recommendations on :



 -  Good dual-band 2.4GHz/5GHz antenna

 -  Good Sector antenna that has multiple inputs on the same
   
 band,
 
 same polarity (not sure if such a beast exists, but doesn't hurt
   
 asking!).
 

 V-pol is preferred, as the clients will have V-pol omnis.



 Any help is really appreciated.  Thanks!



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 3-dB Networks

 http://www.3dbnetworks.com






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Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector Antennas

2009-02-24 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I think the whole idea behind N is antenna diversity Daniel.

Using less antennas means he'll get little or no benefit from the system. 
Might as well just run with a standard b/g system.

I think antenna placement will also be critical for n.  I could be totally 
wrong here, but my guess is that there are specific distances between 
antennas that are part of the magic of n.

What's he hoping to accomplish?

Better NLOS, better nLOS, better speed?

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:43 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector Antennas


 I'm helping someone design an antenna system to utilize the MIMO 
 properties
 in 802.11n outdoors.  The Cisco box he wants to connect to has three 5GHz
 and three 2.4GHz outputs.  I'd rather avoid deploying six sector antennas
 (only need to cover about 120 degrees. so I figured three 90degree sectors
 ought to do it) so would like recommendations on :



 -  Good dual-band 2.4GHz/5GHz antenna

 -  Good Sector antenna that has multiple inputs on the same band,
 same polarity (not sure if such a beast exists, but doesn't hurt asking!).



 V-pol is preferred, as the clients will have V-pol omnis.



 Any help is really appreciated.  Thanks!



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Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector Antennas

2009-02-24 Thread 3-dB Networks
Right... N relies on MIMO... so antenna diversity is important.  In an
indoor application this AP would have six small Omni antennas on it... just
inches apart from each other.  I don't think the exact placement of the
antennas is important, as long as the patterns overlap.  I've never seen
anything specifying the distances of antennas... but if someone knows that
would be great.

Either way, a dual-band antenna would cut it from six sectors to three...
and not lose any of the benefits.  Might not be cost effective, but I want
to explore that.  I'd also hope that there would be an antenna out there
that already has the antenna diversity setup inside the antenna by having
three elements pointing the correct directions.  I wouldn't think noise
would be that big of an issue at the antenna since they will all be
broadcasting on the same frequency anyways.

As for what he is trying to accomplish... I wish I knew.  His application
does not require 802.11n speeds, it could require the MIMO near and non-los
properties... I think he wants 802.11n because it's the next thing.  Just
like I don't think he should be using Cisco... but no IT guy has ever been
fired for deploying Cisco right :-)

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector
Antennas

I think the whole idea behind N is antenna diversity Daniel.

Using less antennas means he'll get little or no benefit from the
system.
Might as well just run with a standard b/g system.

I think antenna placement will also be critical for n.  I could be
totally
wrong here, but my guess is that there are specific distances between
antennas that are part of the magic of n.

What's he hoping to accomplish?

Better NLOS, better nLOS, better speed?

laters,
marlon

- Original Message -
From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:43 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector
Antennas


 I'm helping someone design an antenna system to utilize the MIMO
 properties
 in 802.11n outdoors.  The Cisco box he wants to connect to has three
5GHz
 and three 2.4GHz outputs.  I'd rather avoid deploying six sector
antennas
 (only need to cover about 120 degrees. so I figured three 90degree
sectors
 ought to do it) so would like recommendations on :



 -  Good dual-band 2.4GHz/5GHz antenna

 -  Good Sector antenna that has multiple inputs on the same
band,
 same polarity (not sure if such a beast exists, but doesn't hurt
asking!).



 V-pol is preferred, as the clients will have V-pol omnis.



 Any help is really appreciated.  Thanks!



 Daniel White

 3-dB Networks

 http://www.3dbnetworks.com





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Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector Antennas

2009-02-24 Thread John Thomas
I understand that Cisco is expensive, but it does work. I have clients 
with Cisco Aironet 340's installed that are 7+ years old.
Is it the national pastime to beat on Cisco?

As for antennas, Superpass makes some that might work well for this project

http://www.superpass.com/SP-MIMO-D1J1.html

http://www.superpass.com/MIMO-24.html

http://www.superpass.com/MIMO-5.html

John


3-dB Networks wrote:
 Right... N relies on MIMO... so antenna diversity is important.  In an
 indoor application this AP would have six small Omni antennas on it... just
 inches apart from each other.  I don't think the exact placement of the
 antennas is important, as long as the patterns overlap.  I've never seen
 anything specifying the distances of antennas... but if someone knows that
 would be great.

 Either way, a dual-band antenna would cut it from six sectors to three...
 and not lose any of the benefits.  Might not be cost effective, but I want
 to explore that.  I'd also hope that there would be an antenna out there
 that already has the antenna diversity setup inside the antenna by having
 three elements pointing the correct directions.  I wouldn't think noise
 would be that big of an issue at the antenna since they will all be
 broadcasting on the same frequency anyways.

 As for what he is trying to accomplish... I wish I knew.  His application
 does not require 802.11n speeds, it could require the MIMO near and non-los
 properties... I think he wants 802.11n because it's the next thing.  Just
 like I don't think he should be using Cisco... but no IT guy has ever been
 fired for deploying Cisco right :-)

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com


   
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:34 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector
 Antennas

 I think the whole idea behind N is antenna diversity Daniel.

 Using less antennas means he'll get little or no benefit from the
 system.
 Might as well just run with a standard b/g system.

 I think antenna placement will also be critical for n.  I could be
 totally
 wrong here, but my guess is that there are specific distances between
 antennas that are part of the magic of n.

 What's he hoping to accomplish?

 Better NLOS, better nLOS, better speed?

 laters,
 marlon

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 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:43 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Dual-band Sector Antennas/Multiple Input Sector
 Antennas


 
 I'm helping someone design an antenna system to utilize the MIMO
 properties
 in 802.11n outdoors.  The Cisco box he wants to connect to has three
   
 5GHz
 
 and three 2.4GHz outputs.  I'd rather avoid deploying six sector
   
 antennas
 
 (only need to cover about 120 degrees. so I figured three 90degree
   
 sectors
 
 ought to do it) so would like recommendations on :



 -  Good dual-band 2.4GHz/5GHz antenna

 -  Good Sector antenna that has multiple inputs on the same
   
 band,
 
 same polarity (not sure if such a beast exists, but doesn't hurt
   
 asking!).
 

 V-pol is preferred, as the clients will have V-pol omnis.



 Any help is really appreciated.  Thanks!



 Daniel White

 3-dB Networks

 http://www.3dbnetworks.com





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Re: [WISPA] dual band

2005-12-28 Thread Matt Liotta

http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProducts.do?groupId=345subgroupId=40

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I'm looking for a dual band  high gain panel antenna (ie: 2.4ghz and 5ghz 19db+)
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Re: [WISPA] dual band

2005-12-27 Thread Aubrey Wells

highest gain i've seen on dual-band is the superpass ones.

http://www.superpass.com/DUAL-GJ.html

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I've only heard of dual polorized, but could be wrong,  we order those 
from Maxrad


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RE: [WISPA] dual band

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Smith

They're not really dual they're either/or.

One panel to do BOTH would be awesome, but for now nothing of the sort exists, 
save for the dual-pol dishes for use with orthogon,
etc... 

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highest gain i've seen on dual-band is the superpass ones.

http://www.superpass.com/DUAL-GJ.html

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RE: [WISPA] dual band

2005-12-27 Thread danlist
Looks like I may have to use a dual POL dish (pacwireless makes on) basically
I'm looking for redundancy, ie: using 2 rb532 so if 1 fails the other will still
work, but only want 1 antenna as pricing is costly on this tower

Dan


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 They're not really dual they're either/or.
 
 One panel to do BOTH would be awesome, but for now nothing of the sort exists,
 save for the dual-pol dishes for use with orthogon,
 etc...
 
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RE: [WISPA] dual band

2005-12-27 Thread danlist
Currently I am running separate antennas/radio's/systems on my backhauls (old
karlnet gear) and the new MT/rb532/nstream stuff but I'm looking to find the
best solution :-)

How often do the feedhorns die?

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 Looks like I may have to use a dual POL dish (pacwireless makes on) basically
 I'm looking for redundancy, ie: using 2 rb532 so if 1 fails the other will
 still
 work, but only want 1 antenna as pricing is costly on this tower
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 That's a smart move.  And you can buy a spare feedhorn from PacWireless
 in case one dies on ya.
 
 We do this on all our WISP main backhauls.  They are Gabriel of
 Radiowaves instead.
 
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Re: [WISPA] dual band

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel

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Currently I am running separate antennas/radio's/systems on my backhauls (old
karlnet gear) and the new MT/rb532/nstream stuff but I'm looking to find the
best solution :-)

How often do the feedhorns die?
 



Well...not to often.  I have changed maybe 8 in my whole life and I 
touch alot more microwave stuff than most here.  None have been 
PacWireless BTW.


And its not how often that will kill you.  Its that storm on Friday 
night of Memorial day weekend when evryone is closed for 3 days. THAT's 
the day it will crap out on ya!  Trust me...


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