Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

hehehehe

Lets see you do that in the rocks around here!

We put ground rods in with a jack hammer often as not.

Marlon
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Tom,

 You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it
in.

You don't need the big ass Hammer!  Just pour a little water on the
ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in
again.  Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in
and hammer it the last few inches.  Works like a charm.  And you already
have water bottles in stock :)

I never would have believed it until I saw it done!  The water softens the
ground and works as a lubricant.  Its really slick.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


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Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating Good.

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


 You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

 neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability
 protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
 it takes to incorporate.
 
 -Matt
 
 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 
 We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.



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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread Rick Harnish
Cliff,

You mean JohnnyO has friends?  That's an interesting concept for sure!  :P

Met one of your fine employees at MUM.  Brent I think his name was.  He
represented you well.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating Good.

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


 You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

 neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability
 protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
 it takes to incorporate.
 
 -Matt
 
 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 
 We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.



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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread JohnnyO
Please don't tarnish my reputation by accusing me of having friends ! !
! ! ! ! ! :)

JohnnyO

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Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


Cliff,

You mean JohnnyO has friends?  That's an interesting concept for sure!
:P

Met one of your fine employees at MUM.  Brent I think his name was.  He
represented you well.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating Good.

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


 You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

 neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability 
 protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
 it takes to incorporate.
 
 -Matt
 
 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 
 We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.



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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Rick,
Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something!
- Cliff

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Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

Cliff,

You mean JohnnyO has friends?  That's an interesting concept for sure!
:P

Met one of your fine employees at MUM.  Brent I think his name was.  He
represented you well.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating Good.

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


 You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

 neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability
 protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
 it takes to incorporate.
 
 -Matt
 
 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 
 We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.



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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread JohnnyO
I never called you a friend ! :)~ I can name 10 things I have called you
though ! 

Cliff's nickname is Scratchy by the way ! 

JohnnyO

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Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 AM
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Rick,
Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something!
- Cliff

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

Cliff,

You mean JohnnyO has friends?  That's an interesting concept for sure!
:P

Met one of your fine employees at MUM.  Brent I think his name was.  He
represented you well.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating Good.

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


 You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

 neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability 
 protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
 it takes to incorporate.
 
 -Matt
 
 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 
 We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.



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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
JohnnyO you know that I got that nickname from your wife! :)
Have you started scratching too!? I have some medicine I can share with
you since you shared with me!

When you going out of town again?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:26 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

I never called you a friend ! :)~ I can name 10 things I have called you
though ! 

Cliff's nickname is Scratchy by the way ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


Rick,
Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something!
- Cliff

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

Cliff,

You mean JohnnyO has friends?  That's an interesting concept for sure!
:P

Met one of your fine employees at MUM.  Brent I think his name was.  He
represented you well.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating Good.

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


 You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

 neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability 
 protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
 it takes to incorporate.
 
 -Matt
 
 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 
 We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.



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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread JohnnyO
Cliff - I'll have to check my calendar. I forget when it was your wife
scheduled her next out of town trip *DOH* - They gonna spank us on this
list if you don't stop this kinda nonsense :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:39 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


JohnnyO you know that I got that nickname from your wife! :) Have you
started scratching too!? I have some medicine I can share with you since
you shared with me!

When you going out of town again?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:26 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

I never called you a friend ! :)~ I can name 10 things I have called you
though ! 

Cliff's nickname is Scratchy by the way ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 AM
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Rick,
Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something!
- Cliff

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

Cliff,

You mean JohnnyO has friends?  That's an interesting concept for sure!
:P

Met one of your fine employees at MUM.  Brent I think his name was.  He
represented you well.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating Good.

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


 You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

 neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability
 protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
 it takes to incorporate.
 
 -Matt
 
 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 
 We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.



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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread Rick Smith
Hey, it's Friday :) 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 9:41 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

Cliff - I'll have to check my calendar. I forget when it was your wife
scheduled her next out of town trip *DOH* - They gonna spank us on this
list if you don't stop this kinda nonsense :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


JohnnyO you know that I got that nickname from your wife! :) Have you
started scratching too!? I have some medicine I can share with you since
you shared with me!

When you going out of town again?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:26 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

I never called you a friend ! :)~ I can name 10 things I have called you
though ! 

Cliff's nickname is Scratchy by the way ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


Rick,
Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something!
- Cliff

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

Cliff,

You mean JohnnyO has friends?  That's an interesting concept for sure!
:P

Met one of your fine employees at MUM.  Brent I think his name was.  He
represented you well.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons
size against incorporating Good.

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message -
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


 You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

 neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability
 protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
 it takes to incorporate.
 
 -Matt
 
 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 
 We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.



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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread Tom DeReggi

Rick,

Thanks for the great tip!

PS. Pending there are not any big ass rocks in the way that need breaking 
through :-)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices



Tom,

 You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it
in.

You don't need the big ass Hammer!  Just pour a little water on the
ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in
again.  Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in
and hammer it the last few inches.  Works like a charm.  And you already
have water bottles in stock :)

I never would have believed it until I saw it done!  The water softens the
ground and works as a lubricant.  Its really slick.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Carl A Jeptha
Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD 
Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the 
space and the AWD makes all the difference.
the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and 
$45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting 
Dept.) with those figures. :-D


You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
I thought of that too.  But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still 
won't make up for the payment on the rig.


I love these uses Taurus wagons.  I've had two of them go 230,000 
miles now with nothing major.  Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 
or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil.


Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long.  Usually for 
less than $8k too.  Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the 
ladder on etc.  My only problem now is that I have too many towers up 
in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the 
car all of the time on the rocks.  (I DO know that changing an oil pan 
in one runs $500!)


I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig.  Probably a Cherokee or 
Durango.  Not sure yet.  I want a QUIET rig this time.  That's the 
worst thing about the Taurus around here.  The roads are rough and the 
car is awful.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any 
time soon.

So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles.

George



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Hi All,

Just got our $700 gas bill for last month.  That's just MY driving.  
No employees.  And I don't even drive an suv!


I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge.  Kinda like what 
the concrete company did to me last  year at this time.


What are people that have large spread out networks doing?

If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal.  But if it 
kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) 
this summer is gonna be ugly.


thoughts?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own 
wisp!

64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam





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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread JohnnyO
Subaru Outback Wagons - You can NOT beat them for rough country / good
gas mileage / carrying capacity. They are AWD and 600k miles isn't
unheard of. The clearance under them is unbelievable.

They have High Output V4s or V6s - They are comfortable / quiet /
economic /powerful and will go anywhere that Cherokee you're talking
about will go Marlon :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Carl A Jeptha
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD 
Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the 
space and the AWD makes all the difference.
the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and 
$45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting 
Dept.) with those figures. :-D

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 I thought of that too.  But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still
 won't make up for the payment on the rig.

 I love these uses Taurus wagons.  I've had two of them go 230,000
 miles now with nothing major.  Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 
 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil.

 Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long.  Usually for
 less than $8k too.  Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the 
 ladder on etc.  My only problem now is that I have too many towers up 
 in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the

 car all of the time on the rocks.  (I DO know that changing an oil pan

 in one runs $500!)

 I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig.  Probably a Cherokee or
 Durango.  Not sure yet.  I want a QUIET rig this time.  That's the 
 worst thing about the Taurus around here.  The roads are rough and the

 car is awful.

 laters,
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)And I run my own
wisp!
 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



 - Original Message - From: George Rogato 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


 I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any
 time soon.
 So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles.

 George



 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 Hi All,

 Just got our $700 gas bill for last month.  That's just MY driving.
 No employees.  And I don't even drive an suv!

 I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge.  Kinda like what
 the concrete company did to me last  year at this time.

 What are people that have large spread out networks doing?

 If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal.  But if it
 kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) 
 this summer is gonna be ugly.

 thoughts?
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)And I run my own 
 wisp!
 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam




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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Tom DeReggi

I don't know guys... Whats more costly, GAS or TECHNICIAN's Time?
Let expand that more What is the real cost of technician's time. Lost 
technician time is really lost revenue. That technican is required to 
generate revenues which are mutiples of his direct income/cost. To cover the 
various overheads of the company.  The problem can't just be solved by 
hiring more techs, every tech needs to be managed, sales generated for him, 
etc.


A trip to DC and Back from offices. 1.5 hours (60 miles round trip)
Tech time cost @ $20 per hour = $30.($15 per hour + factoring in Taxes, 
Benefits, Paid Holidays and such)

Gas Cost @ 10 miles per gallon, @ $3 per gallon = $18.

So in conclusion, technician time is almost twice as costly as gas.

So the big question is, whats required to optimize a technician's time? How 
much more efficiency can be acheived by being more organized? What allows 
better organization?  Do you buy the 8 mpg commercial size VAN to gain more 
room, or the smaller 20 mpg Station wagon / Family VAN ?


I chose the Family VAN 5 years ago, and bought two of them.  How much space 
do you really need? Well I pay the consequences daily.
I am confident that I am loosing because of that decission.  There is just 
not enough room in that VAN. My techs spend more time cleaning their Vans 
than they do doing installs, and they are still Pig Steyes.  I NEED A BIGGER 
VAN! Or I need a more organized way of using it.  I started to make a list 
of all the components that we needed in the VAN, the list was getting so 
large, I ran out of paper.  Is it management or space?


Those that support the idea that a smaller vehichle is acceptable, I'd be 
interested in hearing what you carry with you, and what product you chose to 
do with out. I just haven't found a way to make it all fit.


Get answers at this years ISPCON. #A8
Truck Roll Tricks: Installations that Maximize Time and Money

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD 
Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the 
space and the AWD makes all the difference.
the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and 
$45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting 
Dept.) with those figures. :-D


You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
I thought of that too.  But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still 
won't make up for the payment on the rig.


I love these uses Taurus wagons.  I've had two of them go 230,000 miles 
now with nothing major.  Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but 
that was my fault for running it low on oil.


Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long.  Usually for less 
than $8k too.  Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on 
etc.  My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks 
and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the 
time on the rocks.  (I DO know that changing an oil pan in one runs 
$500!)


I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig.  Probably a Cherokee or 
Durango.  Not sure yet.  I want a QUIET rig this time.  That's the worst 
thing about the Taurus around here.  The roads are rough and the car is 
awful.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any 
time soon.

So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles.

George



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Hi All,

Just got our $700 gas bill for last month.  That's just MY driving.  No 
employees.  And I don't even drive an suv!


I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge.  Kinda like what the 
concrete company did to me last  year at this time.


What are people that have large spread out networks doing?

If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal.  But if it 
kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this 
summer is gonna be ugly.


thoughts?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own

Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Travis Johnson

Tom,

We recently just upgraded our entire fleet... purchased brand new Chevy 
4x4 trucks with automatic, air, cruise. We then installed 3 tool boxes 
in each truck bed and a single ladder rack. The trucks get 15mpg and are 
great in the snow. We also now have a fixed expense on the trucks, 
having them under warranty and not having any down-time due to vehicles 
being in the shop.


Each truck carries the following items:
26ft extension ladder
12ft ladder
socket set
cordless drill, regular hammer drill
power inverter
lag screws, J-mounts, staple gun, silicone, etc.
(2) of every kind of radio (900mhz, 2.4ghz, 5.3ghz, 5.8ghz)
box of cable
tripod and a couple 10ft poles
battery pack for signal tests
laptop with GPS

That's about it. We also have a backup Chevy Astro AWD van that we 
used to use... and everything fit perfectly inside that as well.


Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote:


I don't know guys... Whats more costly, GAS or TECHNICIAN's Time?
Let expand that more What is the real cost of technician's time. 
Lost technician time is really lost revenue. That technican is 
required to generate revenues which are mutiples of his direct 
income/cost. To cover the various overheads of the company.  The 
problem can't just be solved by hiring more techs, every tech needs to 
be managed, sales generated for him, etc.


A trip to DC and Back from offices. 1.5 hours (60 miles round trip)
Tech time cost @ $20 per hour = $30.($15 per hour + factoring in 
Taxes, Benefits, Paid Holidays and such)

Gas Cost @ 10 miles per gallon, @ $3 per gallon = $18.

So in conclusion, technician time is almost twice as costly as gas.

So the big question is, whats required to optimize a technician's 
time? How much more efficiency can be acheived by being more 
organized? What allows better organization?  Do you buy the 8 mpg 
commercial size VAN to gain more room, or the smaller 20 mpg Station 
wagon / Family VAN ?


I chose the Family VAN 5 years ago, and bought two of them.  How much 
space do you really need? Well I pay the consequences daily.
I am confident that I am loosing because of that decission.  There is 
just not enough room in that VAN. My techs spend more time cleaning 
their Vans than they do doing installs, and they are still Pig 
Steyes.  I NEED A BIGGER VAN! Or I need a more organized way of using 
it.  I started to make a list of all the components that we needed in 
the VAN, the list was getting so large, I ran out of paper.  Is it 
management or space?


Those that support the idea that a smaller vehichle is acceptable, I'd 
be interested in hearing what you carry with you, and what product you 
chose to do with out. I just haven't found a way to make it all fit.


Get answers at this years ISPCON. #A8
Truck Roll Tricks: Installations that Maximize Time and Money

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD 
Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the 
space and the AWD makes all the difference.
the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and 
$45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife 
(Accounting Dept.) with those figures. :-D


You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

I thought of that too.  But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it 
still won't make up for the payment on the rig.


I love these uses Taurus wagons.  I've had two of them go 230,000 
miles now with nothing major.  Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 
or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil.


Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long.  Usually for 
less than $8k too.  Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the 
ladder on etc.  My only problem now is that I have too many towers 
up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom 
of the car all of the time on the rocks.  (I DO know that changing 
an oil pan in one runs $500!)


I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig.  Probably a Cherokee 
or Durango.  Not sure yet.  I want a QUIET rig this time.  That's 
the worst thing about the Taurus around here.  The roads are rough 
and the car is awful.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own 
wisp!

64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: George Rogato 
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM
Subject: Re

Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

Jeez, I carry way more than that.  just a few quick things I am thinking of,

hard hat
harness
tree nippers
hand tree saw
dish arm mounts
ground rods
grinder
ground wire
extension cord
routers
wireless routers
surge power strips
ratcheting end wrenches
1/4 and 3/8 socket sets
dust pan and brush
key hole saw
1 1/4 and 1 1/2 10 foot masts
dremel
vice grips (2 sizes)
channel locks
crescent wrench (2 sizes)
regular drill index
18 inch drill bit (2 sizes)
site survey pole
200 foot cat 5 on spool for site surveys
little giant ladder
bungee straps (6)
300 feet rope
mastic
super 33+
zip ties

and there is a lot more too




Travis Johnson wrote:
I dunno, I carry way more, but those are a few things I thought of.


Tom,

We recently just upgraded our entire fleet... purchased brand new 
Chevy 4x4 trucks with automatic, air, cruise. We then installed 3 tool 
boxes in each truck bed and a single ladder rack. The trucks get 15mpg 
and are great in the snow. We also now have a fixed expense on the 
trucks, having them under warranty and not having any down-time due to 
vehicles being in the shop.


Each truck carries the following items:
26ft extension ladder
12ft ladder
socket set
cordless drill, regular hammer drill
power inverter
lag screws, J-mounts, staple gun, silicone, etc.
(2) of every kind of radio (900mhz, 2.4ghz, 5.3ghz, 5.8ghz)
box of cable
tripod and a couple 10ft poles
battery pack for signal tests
laptop with GPS

That's about it. We also have a backup Chevy Astro AWD van that we 
used to use... and everything fit perfectly inside that as well.


Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote:


I don't know guys... Whats more costly, GAS or TECHNICIAN's Time?
Let expand that more What is the real cost of technician's time. 
Lost technician time is really lost revenue. That technican is 
required to generate revenues which are mutiples of his direct 
income/cost. To cover the various overheads of the company.  The 
problem can't just be solved by hiring more techs, every tech needs 
to be managed, sales generated for him, etc.


A trip to DC and Back from offices. 1.5 hours (60 miles round trip)
Tech time cost @ $20 per hour = $30.($15 per hour + factoring in 
Taxes, Benefits, Paid Holidays and such)

Gas Cost @ 10 miles per gallon, @ $3 per gallon = $18.

So in conclusion, technician time is almost twice as costly as gas.

So the big question is, whats required to optimize a technician's 
time? How much more efficiency can be acheived by being more 
organized? What allows better organization?  Do you buy the 8 mpg 
commercial size VAN to gain more room, or the smaller 20 mpg Station 
wagon / Family VAN ?


I chose the Family VAN 5 years ago, and bought two of them.  How much 
space do you really need? Well I pay the consequences daily.
I am confident that I am loosing because of that decission.  There is 
just not enough room in that VAN. My techs spend more time cleaning 
their Vans than they do doing installs, and they are still Pig 
Steyes.  I NEED A BIGGER VAN! Or I need a more organized way of using 
it.  I started to make a list of all the components that we needed in 
the VAN, the list was getting so large, I ran out of paper.  Is it 
management or space?


Those that support the idea that a smaller vehichle is acceptable, 
I'd be interested in hearing what you carry with you, and what 
product you chose to do with out. I just haven't found a way to make 
it all fit.


Get answers at this years ISPCON. #A8
Truck Roll Tricks: Installations that Maximize Time and Money

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD 
Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, 
the space and the AWD makes all the difference.
the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and 
$45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife 
(Accounting Dept.) with those figures. :-D


You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

I thought of that too.  But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it 
still won't make up for the payment on the rig.


I love these uses Taurus wagons.  I've had two of them go 230,000 
miles now with nothing major.  Oh yeah, one got an engine at 
220,000 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil.


Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long.  Usually for 
less than $8k too.  Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get 
the ladder on etc.  My only problem now is that I have too many 
towers up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the 
bottom of the car all of the time on the rocks.  (I DO know that 
changing an oil pan

Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.

Being a corp has it's down sides too.

We're probably not far from it though.  When the time is right we'll jump on 
the band wagon.  When you sell, if you are a corp, you take a huge hit.


As for hiding behind a corporate veil, what's the exposure?  If you really 
screw up they go after you personally anyhow.  And we're insured quite well.


Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices



You run your business as a sole proprietor?
That means you have no asset protection - and you can only take advantage 
of about 25% of the tax code.

S Corp or LLC allows you both asset protection and tax breaks.
Marlon, spend the $1000 to have a corporate attorney get you incorporated 
and get your assets allocated correctly.

One lawsuit and you lose everything - personal and business.

Regards,

Peter

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill.  I 
filled the boat up once.  Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles or 
so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than the 
car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes.


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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I've looked at them.  Two problems.  Lack of space for tool boxes, antennas 
etc.  They are too short to really hold a long extension ladder.  The other 
issue is the dang resale value.  I could buy two Jeeps for the cost of 
anything Subaru!  hehehehehe


I'll check 'em out some more.  I did look at them pretty seriously a few 
years back.


Marlon
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- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:53 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices



Subaru Outback Wagons - You can NOT beat them for rough country / good
gas mileage / carrying capacity. They are AWD and 600k miles isn't
unheard of. The clearance under them is unbelievable.

They have High Output V4s or V6s - They are comfortable / quiet /
economic /powerful and will go anywhere that Cherokee you're talking
about will go Marlon :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Carl A Jeptha
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:51 AM
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Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD
Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the
space and the AWD makes all the difference.
the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and
$45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting
Dept.) with those figures. :-D

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

I thought of that too.  But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still
won't make up for the payment on the rig.

I love these uses Taurus wagons.  I've had two of them go 230,000
miles now with nothing major.  Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000
or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil.

Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long.  Usually for
less than $8k too.  Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the
ladder on etc.  My only problem now is that I have too many towers up
in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the



car all of the time on the rocks.  (I DO know that changing an oil pan



in one runs $500!)

I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig.  Probably a Cherokee or
Durango.  Not sure yet.  I want a QUIET rig this time.  That's the
worst thing about the Taurus around here.  The roads are rough and the



car is awful.

laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own

wisp!

64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: George Rogato
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices



I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any
time soon.
So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles.

George



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Hi All,

Just got our $700 gas bill for last month.  That's just MY driving.
No employees.  And I don't even drive an suv!

I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge.  Kinda like what
the concrete company did to me last  year at this time.

What are people that have large spread out networks doing?

If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal.  But if it
kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us)
this summer is gonna be ugly.

thoughts?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own
wisp!
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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Matt Liotta
You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet 
neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability 
protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars 
it takes to incorporate.


-Matt

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.

Being a corp has it's down sides too.

We're probably not far from it though.  When the time is right we'll 
jump on the band wagon.  When you sell, if you are a corp, you take a 
huge hit.


As for hiding behind a corporate veil, what's the exposure?  If you 
really screw up they go after you personally anyhow.  And we're 
insured quite well.


Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices



You run your business as a sole proprietor?
That means you have no asset protection - and you can only take 
advantage of about 25% of the tax code.

S Corp or LLC allows you both asset protection and tax breaks.
Marlon, spend the $1000 to have a corporate attorney get you 
incorporated and get your assets allocated correctly.

One lawsuit and you lose everything - personal and business.

Regards,

Peter

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill.  
I filled the boat up once.  Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 
miles or so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much 
safer than the car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt 
bikes.



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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
 of the guys carry a case of water 
bottles or small cooler, so don't need to stop every hour for a drink.



laptop with GPS


Along with Wifi Card, Serial Cable, Power adapter, Ethernet cable 
Cross/straight, Digital Camera, Binoculars, Cell Phone, Local MAP book, and 
Paper Organizers for job pre-printed maps and directions, work orders, 
notes, and invoices.


 That's about it. We also have a backup Chevy Astro AWD van that we

used to use... and everything fit perfectly inside that as well.


I finally learned to create my own work truck. The techs always left theirs 
to disorganized for me to find anything. But since I rarely ever go i nthe 
field, I use my work VAN as the back up, if one of the tech VANs need 
maintenance. But that allows me to take control and do a repair quickly if 
techs aren't around.



surge power strips


We also carry two UPS types, 1 wall mount strip type ($50), sometimes 1 
floor type 500VA w/Voltage regulation ($100).



dust pan and brush


We also carry box of disposable booties for working inside homes, when its 
muddy out.


Also if got old used VANs like us, can't forget basic VAN maintenance 
stuff... Oil, Transmission Fluid, Rag, Anti-freeze/water, paper towel, etc.


My conclusion is... If you seperate residential versus Commercial MTU, its 
easy.  Less variation and needs for cable spools, ladders, and mounting. But 
when you need to be prepared to do both, the inventory starts to grow quick.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices



Tom,

We recently just upgraded our entire fleet... purchased brand new Chevy 
4x4 trucks with automatic, air, cruise. We then installed 3 tool boxes in 
each truck bed and a single ladder rack. The trucks get 15mpg and are 
great in the snow. We also now have a fixed expense on the trucks, 
having them under warranty and not having any down-time due to vehicles 
being in the shop.


Each truck carries the following items:
26ft extension ladder
12ft ladder
socket set
cordless drill, regular hammer drill
power inverter
lag screws, J-mounts, staple gun, silicone, etc.
(2) of every kind of radio (900mhz, 2.4ghz, 5.3ghz, 5.8ghz)
box of cable
tripod and a couple 10ft poles
battery pack for signal tests
laptop with GPS

That's about it. We also have a backup Chevy Astro AWD van that we used 
to use... and everything fit perfectly inside that as well.


Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote:


I don't know guys... Whats more costly, GAS or TECHNICIAN's Time?
Let expand that more What is the real cost of technician's time. Lost 
technician time is really lost revenue. That technican is required to 
generate revenues which are mutiples of his direct income/cost. To cover 
the various overheads of the company.  The problem can't just be solved 
by hiring more techs, every tech needs to be managed, sales generated for 
him, etc.


A trip to DC and Back from offices. 1.5 hours (60 miles round trip)
Tech time cost @ $20 per hour = $30.($15 per hour + factoring in 
Taxes, Benefits, Paid Holidays and such)

Gas Cost @ 10 miles per gallon, @ $3 per gallon = $18.

So in conclusion, technician time is almost twice as costly as gas.

So the big question is, whats required to optimize a technician's time? 
How much more efficiency can be acheived by being more organized? What 
allows better organization?  Do you buy the 8 mpg commercial size VAN to 
gain more room, or the smaller 20 mpg Station wagon / Family VAN ?


I chose the Family VAN 5 years ago, and bought two of them.  How much 
space do you really need? Well I pay the consequences daily.
I am confident that I am loosing because of that decission.  There is 
just not enough room in that VAN. My techs spend more time cleaning their 
Vans than they do doing installs, and they are still Pig Steyes.  I NEED 
A BIGGER VAN! Or I need a more organized way of using it.  I started to 
make a list of all the components that we needed in the VAN, the list was 
getting so large, I ran out of paper.  Is it management or space?


Those that support the idea that a smaller vehichle is acceptable, I'd be 
interested in hearing what you carry with you, and what product you chose 
to do with out. I just haven't found a way to make it all fit.


Get answers at this years ISPCON. #A8
Truck Roll Tricks: Installations that Maximize Time and Money

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD 
Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the 
space and the AWD makes all the difference.
the difference in mileage

Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Blake Bowers

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating Good.

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet 
neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability 
protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars 
it takes to incorporate.


-Matt

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.




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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Rick Harnish
Tom,

 You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it
in.  

You don't need the big ass Hammer!  Just pour a little water on the
ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in
again.  Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in
and hammer it the last few inches.  Works like a charm.  And you already
have water bottles in stock :)

I never would have believed it until I saw it done!  The water softens the
ground and works as a lubricant.  Its really slick.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread JohnnyO
Yup - I can install an 8ft Grounding Rod in about 60seconds from start
to finish without using a hammer. Can be a little workout at times but
tis the easiest way I know how.

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Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:27 PM
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Tom,

 You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer
it in.  

You don't need the big ass Hammer!  Just pour a little water on the
ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it
in again.  Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the
way in and hammer it the last few inches.  Works like a charm.  And you
already have water bottles in stock :)

I never would have believed it until I saw it done!  The water softens
the ground and works as a lubricant.  Its really slick.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread KyWiFi LLC
We use a rotary hammer drill with a special bit that is for
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From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yup - I can install an 8ft Grounding Rod in about 60seconds from start
to finish without using a hammer. Can be a little workout at times but
tis the easiest way I know how.

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Tom,

 You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer
it in.  

You don't need the big ass Hammer!  Just pour a little water on the
ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it
in again.  Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the
way in and hammer it the last few inches.  Works like a charm.  And you
already have water bottles in stock :)

I never would have believed it until I saw it done!  The water softens
the ground and works as a lubricant.  Its really slick.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Scott Reed




Yeah, your in that nice sandy soil up north.  Come on down to Centerville.  My yard is harder that the sidewalk in the summer.   Put some water on the ground in the at it would make steam, not mud.  That's why pottery is made of clay, and boy do we have some.

Actually, I will have to try that, but I am pretty sure around here every uses a fence post driver or the hammer drill type attachment.

Scott Reed 


Owner 


NewWays 


Wireless Networking 


Network Design, Installation and Administration 


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 Tom, 
 
 

 You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it 

 

in.   
 
 

You don't need the big ass Hammer!  Just pour a little water on 
the 
 

ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in 

 

again.  Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in 

 

and hammer it the last few inches.  Works like a charm.  And you 
already 
 

have water bottles in stock :) 
 
 

I never would have believed it until I saw it done!  The water softens the 

 

ground and works as a lubricant.  Its really slick. 
 
 

Respectfully, 
 
 

Rick Harnish 
 

President 
 

OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc. 
 

260-827-2482 Office 
 

260-307-4000 Cell 
 

260-918-4340 VoIP 
 

www.oibw.net 
 

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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Rick Harnish








Scott,



I dont have much sand here, you
have to go north of Fort Wayne
to get into that. We have a lot of clay here as well. 





Rick
Harnish











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Yeah, your in that nice sandy soil up north.
Come on down to Centerville.
My yard is harder that the sidewalk in the summer. Put some water
on the ground in the at it would make steam, not mud. That's why pottery
is made of clay, and boy do we have some. 

Actually, I will have to try that, but I am pretty sure around here every uses
a fence post driver or the hammer drill type attachment. 

Scott Reed 
Owner 
NewWays 
Wireless Networking 
Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net 


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 Tom, 
 
  You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to
hammer it 
 in.  
 
 You don't need the big ass Hammer! Just pour a little
water on the 
 ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in

 again. Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the
way in 
 and hammer it the last few inches. Works like a charm. And you
already 
 have water bottles in stock :) 
 
 I never would have believed it until I saw it done! The water
softens the 
 ground and works as a lubricant. Its really slick. 
 
 Respectfully, 
 
 Rick Harnish 
 President 
 OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc. 
 260-827-2482 Office 
 260-307-4000 Cell 
 260-918-4340 VoIP 
 www.oibw.net 
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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
I have to also agree!

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I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating Good.

Too much protection there not to do it.

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 You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

 neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability 
 protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
 it takes to incorporate.
 
 -Matt
 
 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 
 We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.



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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread JohnnyO
But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

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I have to also agree!

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I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating Good.

Too much protection there not to do it.

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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


 You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

 neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability
 protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
 it takes to incorporate.
 
 -Matt
 
 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 
 We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.



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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-10 Thread George Rogato
I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any 
time soon.

So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles.

George



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Hi All,

Just got our $700 gas bill for last month.  That's just MY driving.  No 
employees.  And I don't even drive an suv!


I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge.  Kinda like what the 
concrete company did to me last  year at this time.


What are people that have large spread out networks doing?

If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal.  But if it 
kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this 
summer is gonna be ugly.


thoughts?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I thought of that too.  But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still won't 
make up for the payment on the rig.


I love these uses Taurus wagons.  I've had two of them go 230,000 miles now 
with nothing major.  Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but that 
was my fault for running it low on oil.


Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long.  Usually for less 
than $8k too.  Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on 
etc.  My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks 
and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the time 
on the rocks.  (I DO know that changing an oil pan in one runs $500!)


I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig.  Probably a Cherokee or 
Durango.  Not sure yet.  I want a QUIET rig this time.  That's the worst 
thing about the Taurus around here.  The roads are rough and the car is 
awful.


laters,
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- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any time 
soon.

So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles.

George



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Hi All,

Just got our $700 gas bill for last month.  That's just MY driving.  No 
employees.  And I don't even drive an suv!


I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge.  Kinda like what the 
concrete company did to me last  year at this time.


What are people that have large spread out networks doing?

If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal.  But if it kicks 
into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer 
is gonna be ugly.


thoughts?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam





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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Well, lets see.  Put the ladder on top of the Taurus and mileage drops to 
about 20.


We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill.  I 
filled the boat up once.  Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles or so) 
and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than the car) and 
I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes.


So there's probably $200 to $250 that's not from my work.

Our gas prices here in town are usually $.20 or more above what the 
national average is, and sometimes that much more than many of the towns 
around us too.


I'm half tempted to get a gas only credit card and start getting gas at 
whatever cheap town I'm in today.


But yeah, I put in over 30,000 miles per year just for work related driving. 
Not counting the times I use the suburban, we don't write off the mileage on 
it.


Marlon
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- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices



Marlon,

Are you really driving THAT much? I have 5 full-time installers (each in 
their own vehicle) and our network covers 200 miles N-S and 150 E-W and 
our gas bill was only $2,200 this last month. We did 104 installs. :)


Travis
Microserv

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Hi All,

Just got our $700 gas bill for last month.  That's just MY driving.  No 
employees.  And I don't even drive an suv!


I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge.  Kinda like what the 
concrete company did to me last  year at this time.


What are people that have large spread out networks doing?

If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal.  But if it kicks 
into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer 
is gonna be ugly.


thoughts?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam




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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-10 Thread Peter R.

You run your business as a sole proprietor?
That means you have no asset protection - and you can only take 
advantage of about 25% of the tax code.

S Corp or LLC allows you both asset protection and tax breaks.
Marlon, spend the $1000 to have a corporate attorney get you 
incorporated and get your assets allocated correctly.

One lawsuit and you lose everything - personal and business.

Regards,

Peter

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill.  I 
filled the boat up once.  Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles 
or so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than 
the car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes.


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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-10 Thread Rick Smith
yeah, amen to that. 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:24 PM
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You run your business as a sole proprietor?
That means you have no asset protection - and you can only take
advantage of about 25% of the tax code.
S Corp or LLC allows you both asset protection and tax breaks.
Marlon, spend the $1000 to have a corporate attorney get you
incorporated and get your assets allocated correctly.
One lawsuit and you lose everything - personal and business.

Regards,

Peter

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

 We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill.  I

 filled the boat up once.  Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles 
 or so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than 
 the car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes.

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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-09 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
We just raised our install prices from $150 to $250 for each install.  
People who pay for six months in advance get a free month and $50 off of 
the install.  Gas prices are part of it, but it was a combination of 
higher leasing rates (due to increasing interest rates), increase in the 
price of Tranzeo radios ($5 to $10 across the board) and increased 
shipping costs.   With the changes in prices, now I'm back to an 
immediate ROI, rather than a 2 month ROI and carrying a lease payment 
for each new radio.  We've been doing 50-70 installs a month for the 
last six months so it won't hurt to slack off a little bit during the 
summer so that we can build up a cash reserve.  Crazy thing is that the 
schedule is still filling up even with the increased install charges.


I think its going to be another crazy summer.

Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Hi All,

Just got our $700 gas bill for last month.  That's just MY driving.  
No employees.  And I don't even drive an suv!


I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge.  Kinda like what the 
concrete company did to me last  year at this time.


What are people that have large spread out networks doing?

If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal.  But if it 
kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) 
this summer is gonna be ugly.


thoughts?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam





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Re: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-09 Thread Travis Johnson

Marlon,

Are you really driving THAT much? I have 5 full-time installers (each in 
their own vehicle) and our network covers 200 miles N-S and 150 E-W and 
our gas bill was only $2,200 this last month. We did 104 installs. :)


Travis
Microserv

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Hi All,

Just got our $700 gas bill for last month.  That's just MY driving.  
No employees.  And I don't even drive an suv!


I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge.  Kinda like what the 
concrete company did to me last  year at this time.


What are people that have large spread out networks doing?

If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal.  But if it 
kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) 
this summer is gonna be ugly.


thoughts?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam




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Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices

2005-08-18 Thread Linda Pond
Living in the Ottawa, Canada region, we just hit $1.10 per LITRE.  For our 
friends in the U.S. - there are about 4 litres in one gallon.

Linda

Linda Pond
President
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Bridging Technology Relationships
www.customerconnects.com
613-253-0240 (w)
613-291-2884 (c)

- Original Message - 
From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices


We hit 2.60/gal this week. I heard some places are over 3.00/gal. This
is insane. Just 3 more years of it, anyone think they can make it at
5/gal? Time for a air powered car. http://www.theaircar.com/
or maybe just a bicycle

Jeromie


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas
 prices?  Gas went up over 60 cents this week.


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Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices

2005-08-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
We were about to.  But the gear I use has just come down so, for the first 
time, I'm not lowering my install prices.


We're also getting more aggressive about charging people for service calls 
not caused by my gear (the radio, even when they own it falls under my 
gear).


Mainly though, we're just sucking up $700 per month in fuel costs.  Hoping 
they come down again soon.  Or we will have to put a trip charge in place.


laters,
Marlon
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
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- Original Message - 
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:00 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Gas Prices


Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas 
prices?  Gas went up over 60 cents this week.

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Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices

2005-08-17 Thread Jeromie Reeves
We hit 2.60/gal this week. I heard some places are over 3.00/gal. This 
is insane. Just 3 more years of it, anyone think they can make it at 
5/gal? Time for a air powered car. http://www.theaircar.com/

or maybe just a bicycle

Jeromie


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas 
prices?  Gas went up over 60 cents this week.



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Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices

2005-08-17 Thread George

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas 
prices?  Gas went up over 60 cents this week.


If you can get away with it.
But I don't think Qwest or Charter are raising there rates because of gas.

I think this is just the cost of doing business and in this business 
with fixed install prices, we are squeezed.


I was thinkin off buying a better gas mileage vehicle, now I'm really 
considering it.



George

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