Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-23 Thread Mario Pommier




If I understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a
given state does not need to file.

 The reporting threshold for broadband reporting is facilities-based
firms that provide at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband (in excess
of 200 kilobits per second) service lines or wireless channels in a
given state, or have at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband
customers in a given state.

Correct?
If so, I don't understand the sense of setting up a threshold like this
one.

Mario


Bob Moldashel wrote:
On all due
respectIt didn't answer the question..
  
  
-B-
  
  
  
  
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
  
  
  Hi All,


For those that think it's no big deal to not fill this out. Please
read the note below from Ellen Burton with the FCC. She's in charge of
this form.


Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us. I think we have
nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA.


laters,

Marlon

(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales

(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services

42846865 (icq) And I run my own
wisp!

64.146.146.12 (net meeting)

www.odessaoffice.com/wireless

www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam




- Original Message - From: "Ellen Burton"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: "Marlon K. Schafer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM

Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st



See #20 in the set of Form 477 FAQs that's available at

http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html:


20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477?


Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be

subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any

other applicable law. In particular, the Commission has authority

pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce

compliance by fine or forfeiture.


-Original Message-

From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM

To: Ellen Burton

Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st


Hiya Ellen,


Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 477? Got

an

answer for me yet?


thanks!

marlon


- Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org; "Marlon Schafer

(509-982-2181)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st



OK...OK.
  
  
I agree that all should probably file. I have several partners so I
  


am


not the only one to decide so I will leave
it at that as it pertains
  


to my


WISP entity.
  
  
BUT...What is the penalty for not filing Does anyone know???
  


Can


we get an official statement for this
situation? Are there fines?
  
Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram?? Do they not send me a xmas card
  



next year?? What???
  
  
It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings.
  
Either way I think the membership should know.
  
  
Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts.
  
  
-B-
  
  


  
  
  



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Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-23 Thread Mario Pommier




hmm, seems like I was reding the old form from Year 2,000.


Mario Pommier wrote:

  
If I understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a
given state does not need to file.
  
   The reporting threshold for broadband reporting is
facilities-based
firms that provide at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband (in excess
of 200 kilobits per second) service lines or wireless channels in a
given state, or have at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband
customers in a given state.
  
Correct?
If so, I don't understand the sense of setting up a threshold like this
one.
  
Mario
  
  
Bob Moldashel wrote:
  On all
due
respectIt didn't answer the question.. 

-B- 



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: 

Hi All, 
  
For those that think it's no big deal to not fill this out. Please
read the note below from Ellen Burton with the FCC. She's in charge of
this form. 
  
Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us. I think we have
nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA. 
  
laters, 
Marlon 
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales 
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 
42846865 (icq) And I run my own
wisp! 
64.146.146.12 (net meeting) 
  www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
  
  www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - From: "Ellen Burton"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: "Marlon K. Schafer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM 
Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st 
  
  
See #20 in the set of Form 477 FAQs that's available at 
  http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html:
  
  
20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477? 
  
Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be 
subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any
  
other applicable law. In particular, the Commission has authority 
pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce 
compliance by fine or forfeiture. 
  
-Original Message- 
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM 
To: Ellen Burton 
Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st 
  
Hiya Ellen, 
  
Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 477? Got 
an 
answer for me yet? 
  
thanks! 
marlon 
  
- Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org;
"Marlon Schafer 
(509-982-2181)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st 
  
  
  OK...OK. 

I agree that all should probably file. I have several partners so I 
  
  
am 
  
  not the only one to decide so I will
leave
it at that as it pertains 
  
  
to my 
  
  WISP entity. 

BUT...What is the penalty for not filing Does anyone know??? 
  
  
Can 
  
  we get an official statement for this
situation? Are there fines? 
Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram?? Do they not send me a xmas card 
  
  
  
  next year?? What??? 

It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings. 
Either way I think the membership should know. 

Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts. 

-B- 

  
  



  



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Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181



Righto. It's now 1 subscriber not 
250.

Marlon(509) 
982-2181 
Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 
(Vonage) 
Consulting services42846865 
(icq) 
And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mario 
  Pommier 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:58 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due 
  March 1st
  hmm, seems like I was reding the old form from Year 
  2,000.Mario Pommier wrote: 
  If I 
understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a given state 
does not need to file.The reporting threshold for broadband 
reporting is facilities-based firms that provide at least 250 one-way or 
two-way broadband (in excess of 200 kilobits per second) service lines or 
wireless channels in a given state, or have at least 250 one-way or two-way 
broadband customers in a given state.Correct?If so, I don't 
understand the sense of setting up a threshold like this 
one.MarioBob Moldashel wrote: 
On all due 
  respectIt didn't answer the question.. -B- 
  Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: 
  Hi All, For those that think it's no big 
deal to not fill this out. Please read the note below from 
Ellen Burton with the FCC. She's in charge of this form. 
Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us. I 
think we have nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA. 
laters, Marlon (509) 
982-2181 
Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 
(Vonage) 
Consulting services 42846865 
(icq) 
And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless 
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam 
- Original Message - From: "Ellen Burton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: "Marlon K. Schafer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] 
FCC Form 477 Due March 1st See #20 in the set of Form 477 
FAQs that's available at http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html: 
20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477? 
Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so 
may be subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications 
Act and any other applicable law. In particular, the 
Commission has authority pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the 
Communications Act to enforce compliance by fine or forfeiture. 
-Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM To: Ellen Burton 
Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st Hiya Ellen, 
Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 
477? Got an answer for me yet? thanks! marlon 
- Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
"WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org; "Marlon 
Schafer (509-982-2181)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 
FCC Form 477 Due March 1st 
OK...OK. I agree that all should 
  probably file. I have several partners so I 
am 
not the only one to decide so I will leave it 
  at that as it pertains to my 
WISP entity. BUT...What is the 
  penalty for not filing Does anyone know??? 
Can 
we get an official statement for this 
  situation? Are there fines? Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty 
  gram?? Do they not send me a xmas card 
next year?? What??? It may help 
  bring more compliance or it may result in less filings. Either way 
  I think the membership should know. Marlon...How about asking 
  some of your contacts. -B- 
  
  
  

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Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I don't remember if it was this list or isp-wireless that talked about this 
a bit more specifically.


In a nutshell, the fine for not filling it out is up to $10,000 as I read 
it.


Again, however, the biggest reason for us to fill this out is political. 
They need to know that when someone from the wisp industry, and wispa 
specifically, says something, we're not just talking about 400 operators and 
4000 subscribers..


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st



On all due respectIt didn't answer the question..

-B-






Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Hi All,

For those that think it's no big deal to not fill this out.  Please 
read the note below from Ellen Burton with the FCC.  She's in charge of 
this form.


Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us.  I think we have 
nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Ellen Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st


See #20 in the set of Form 477 FAQs that's available at
http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html:

20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477?

Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be
subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any
other applicable law.  In particular, the Commission has authority
pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce
compliance by fine or forfeiture.

-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM
To: Ellen Burton
Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

Hiya Ellen,

Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 477?  Got
an
answer for me yet?

thanks!
marlon

- Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; Marlon Schafer
(509-982-2181) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st



OK...OK.

I agree that all should probably file.  I have several partners so I


am


not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains


to my


WISP entity.

BUT...What is the penalty for not filing  Does anyone know???


Can


we get an official statement for this situation? Are there fines?
Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram??  Do they not send me a xmas card




next year??  What???

It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings.
Either way I think the membership should know.

Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts.

-B-






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Lakeland Communications, Inc.
Broadband Deployment Group
1350 Lincoln Avenue
Holbrook, New York 11741 USA
800-479-9195 Toll Free US  Canada
631-585-5558 Fax
516-551-1131 Cell

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Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-22 Thread Bob Moldashel

On all due respectIt didn't answer the question..

-B-






Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Hi All,

For those that think it's no big deal to not fill this out.  
Please read the note below from Ellen Burton with the FCC.  She's in 
charge of this form.


Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us.  I think we 
have nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Ellen Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st


See #20 in the set of Form 477 FAQs that's available at
http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html:

20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477?

Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be
subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any
other applicable law.  In particular, the Commission has authority
pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce
compliance by fine or forfeiture.

-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM
To: Ellen Burton
Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

Hiya Ellen,

Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 477?  Got
an
answer for me yet?

thanks!
marlon

- Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; Marlon Schafer
(509-982-2181) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st



OK...OK.

I agree that all should probably file.  I have several partners so I


am


not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains


to my


WISP entity.

BUT...What is the penalty for not filing  Does anyone know???


Can


we get an official statement for this situation? Are there fines?
Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram??  Do they not send me a xmas card




next year??  What???

It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings.
Either way I think the membership should know.

Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts.

-B-






--
Bob Moldashel
Lakeland Communications, Inc.
Broadband Deployment Group
1350 Lincoln Avenue
Holbrook, New York 11741 USA
800-479-9195 Toll Free US  Canada
631-585-5558 Fax
516-551-1131 Cell

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