Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-14 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: You dont use Sun Boxes! You use Linux based P4-3Ghz Rackmount PCs, they cost us about $700, and never had one give us a bit of trouble in 5 years. Could probably do it in a set top box type unit for under $350. While I haven't seen their software, the traditional reason

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-14 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: Well thats the question. Does it have to be that way. I don't see the need to have all the traffic flow through it. I see it sitting in parallel, and just certain type of traffic gets redirected to the cache appliance server that adds the marketing data. You aren't

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams Tom DeReggi wrote: You dont use Sun Boxes! You use Linux based P4-3Ghz Rackmount PCs, they cost us about $700, and never had one give us a bit of trouble in 5

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-14 Thread Peter R.
Tom, Is it just me or are many of your posts written in outrage or disbelief? You have the right to discuss how the model should work for WISPs, but I think that you need to understand that the model needs to work 2 ways - for the vendor and the WISP - whether VOIP or advertising. The

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
Peter, No need to respond to most of your post, as your points were fair and made sense to me. However a couple comments. if you have ever tried to hire sales people you know that it is challenging I have, and failed miserably. I recognize its not easy. However, my weakness shouldn't

RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams -- Amen

2006-03-14 Thread Brian Webster
early, by 11 PM or so and your head will start to clear and feel better. Great Rant. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Privett Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams What are the subs that I have to have to get a system like this??? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-13 Thread Peter R.
Easy to say but then you don't have to supply the Sun boxes that the Zillacasters run on. Also, selling local advertising takes time and man-power. How do you get enough click-throughs and other metrix on 500 subs? Even pay the advertising salesperson? Regards, Peter Tom DeReggi wrote: For

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams Oh, yippee. 1 WISP can do it. 10,000 subs what? Guess we can quit talking about this. Eric DaVersa wrote

RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread Eric DaVersa
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams There is no free lunch. this is the most concise, most accurate, and wisest words ever spoken, on the subject of economics. North

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread Blair Davis
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams "There is no free lunch." this is the most concise, most accurate, and wisest words ever spoken, on the subject of economics. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at n

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread Jory Privett
? If it modified every page that a user went to you would have a lot of unhappy customers very quickly. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread chris cooper
While we are on the topic of ad based revenue streams- How about Tobacco advertising? Ive never seen any push type tobacco ads on the web. Im wondering if this medium is regulated the same as television and radio? (before anybody gets upset- Im a former smoker. Tobacco is evil,

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread Frank Muto
PA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams "There is no free lunch." this is the most concise, most accurate, and wisest words ever spoken, on the subject of economics. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread John Scrivner
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams There is no free lunch. this is the most concise, most accurate, and wisest words ever spoken, on the subject of economics. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread John Scrivner
, 2006 3:16 PM *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams Jory is correct. No part of web content is altered as that is copyright infringement and illegal. The way the system works is within the existing ecosystem of the web publishing and ad serving world. Many web

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Jory, I think you hit the nail on the head there. Does anyone know if there is a program for ISPs 1 subs? Inquiring minds want to know. :^) Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jory Privett wrote: As all of this is a great thing that I would like to be part of, I do not think it will

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Frank Muto To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams Blair, I

RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
(509) 982-2181Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:28 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams OK, I understand the concept. It looks to me though, that most of the time we'll not have the right to change page content. Even though it's being delivered over

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread John Scrivner
PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 *Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:28 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams OK, I understand the concept. It looks to me though, that most of the time we'll not have the right to change page content

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-09 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Less than 100 you mean? Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Jory, I think you hit the nail on the head there. Does anyone know if there is a program for ISPs 1 subs? Inquiring minds want to know. :^) Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jory Privett wrote: As all of this is a great thing that I

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-08 Thread Frank Muto
Personally, having a 10k tier is leaving money on the table. Having been a former dialup ISP (97-2002), we used ad based portal(s) revenue to subsidize our free-based users as well as our paid subscriber base. You can earn revenues from local based advertisers' by taking some time in doing so.

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-08 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams What are the subs that I have to have to get a system like this??? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-08 Thread Peter R.
How about to make it easy for all of you, I set up a con call with Martin Stewart from Adzilla for a QA early next week? There are minimums because the Zillacaster hardware isn't exactly cheap. Plus local advertising has to be sold (and salespeople paid to close contracts on that). If

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-08 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams The simple answer

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Peter R.
I worked with Martin at Adzilla on a Conference Call to introduce him to some prospective ISPs. (http://www.rad-info.net/partners/adzilla.htm) Adzilla is a possible revenue stream for ISPs through ad replacement. (Instead of them seeing the ILEC ad, they can see you ad). It is definitely worth

RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Eric DaVersa
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams I worked with Martin at Adzilla on a Conference Call to introduce him to some prospective ISPs. (http://www.rad-info.net/partners/adzilla.htm) Adzilla

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of the package. You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging

RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Eric DaVersa
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Ron Wallace
DaVersa" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "'WISPA General List'" wireless@wispa.orgSent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AMSubject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part ofthe package. You have a GUI interface where you can insert

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Jory Privett
What are the subs that I have to have to get a system like this??? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:34 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams The simple

RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Charles Wu
March 13-15, 2006 http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams - Original Message - From: Eric