RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform
Hi Matt, Can you please shed some light on your 3.65 GHz license? To my knowledge (and we work with the FCC on licensing almost on a daily basis) -- 3.65 GHz is not yet legally licensable for commercial common carrier applications -Charles --- WiNOG Austin, TX March 13-15, 2006 http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform Is there any vendor besides Aperto that has product that will work with our 3.65Ghz license? -Matt Brad Larson wrote: Jeff, LOL. Be careful who you're listening to. Like I said, there is allot of total BS out there being spread by certain people/manufacturer's. There are several waves of certifications coming. Just because we didn't show up for the first wave doesn't mean we don't have a product. When the others get caught up Alvarion will be there for the real test phases. Brad http://www.techworld.com/mobility/features/index.cfm?featureID=2021 http://www.alvarion-usa.com/presscenter/pressreleases/2109/ http://www.alvarion-usa.com/presscenter/pressreleases/ -Original Message- From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:50 PM To: WISPA General List; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform 3.5 / 2.5 / 5.8 Alvarion I believe from what I heard was waiting for the QOS revision to be agreed on. - Jeff On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:34:42 -0800 , Brad Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jeff, In what Frequency? There is allot of BS out there in the first wave of testing for those that have yet to get a product to market. We can discuss if you would like? Brad -Original Message- From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform The only product on the market today that will have backwards compatibility to wimax where a cpe can talk to a wimax base station is Aperto. Additionally, Alvarion will not be one of the first round products certified for wimax, Airspan and Aperto however, will be. - Jeff On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:22:30 -0600, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there a firmware upgrade path for WiMAX through the VL product line or is it a hardware change? Feel free to have someone contact me offlist for pricing information. I have a need for a PtMP system with more capacity than I have now with my current system. I do not know of many systems that meet the specs you list here and I already know many people are quite fond of the product. Maybe this time the price won't drive me away as has been the case in the past. Please do not take that as a slam. It is not. I know the quality is there and it is a matter of economics for me only that has ever kept me away from Alvarion products. You guys build good stuff and in some markets the price is easily recovered through ROI. Thanks, Scriv Brad Larson wrote: John, Typically 4 sector base stations are built with either 5.3 or a licensed link as backhaul. With BreezeAccess VL, true data sector performance is 28 meg's in a 20 Mhz channel and half that in 10 Mhz Next firmware release is going to mid 30's in a 20 Mhz channel (again true data rates). I know of one sector that has 200 sub's attached although most sectors have less than 100. This customer looked at most manufacturer's gear and concluded Alvarion had the management feature sets, ease of batch processing for firmware uploads, obstructed NLOS for their application, and a host of other likes including Alvarion's support infrastructure. To be honest I don't think we have many Alvarion Operators that subscribe here but that doesn't mean there aren't a crap load of them out there which should be obviuos to everyone. Typically our Operators use Alvarion support Application Engineers and Alvarion web servers such as Mike Cowan's at ACC when needed. This could end up being a long dialog about the differences in operators, products, and ROI models but I won't go there. Brad -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This mail passed through mail.alvarion.com *** * This footnote confirms
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform
This has been discussed in depth on the private WISPA list. The FCC is giving 3.65Ghz licenses for experimental purposes, which you can use to provide customers with service. However, it may not be a wise business decision to rely on experimental spectrum, which can go away at any time. -Matt Charles Wu wrote: Hi Matt, Can you please shed some light on your 3.65 GHz license? To my knowledge (and we work with the FCC on licensing almost on a daily basis) -- 3.65 GHz is not yet legally licensable for commercial common carrier applications -Charles --- WiNOG Austin, TX March 13-15, 2006 http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform Is there any vendor besides Aperto that has product that will work with our 3.65Ghz license? -Matt Brad Larson wrote: Jeff, LOL. Be careful who you're listening to. Like I said, there is allot of total BS out there being spread by certain people/manufacturer's. There are several waves of certifications coming. Just because we didn't show up for the first wave doesn't mean we don't have a product. When the others get caught up Alvarion will be there for the real test phases. Brad http://www.techworld.com/mobility/features/index.cfm?featureID=2021 http://www.alvarion-usa.com/presscenter/pressreleases/2109/ http://www.alvarion-usa.com/presscenter/pressreleases/ -Original Message- From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:50 PM To: WISPA General List; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform 3.5 / 2.5 / 5.8 Alvarion I believe from what I heard was waiting for the QOS revision to be agreed on. - Jeff On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:34:42 -0800 , Brad Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jeff, In what Frequency? There is allot of BS out there in the first wave of testing for those that have yet to get a product to market. We can discuss if you would like? Brad -Original Message- From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform The only product on the market today that will have backwards compatibility to wimax where a cpe can talk to a wimax base station is Aperto. Additionally, Alvarion will not be one of the first round products certified for wimax, Airspan and Aperto however, will be. - Jeff On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:22:30 -0600, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there a firmware upgrade path for WiMAX through the VL product line or is it a hardware change? Feel free to have someone contact me offlist for pricing information. I have a need for a PtMP system with more capacity than I have now with my current system. I do not know of many systems that meet the specs you list here and I already know many people are quite fond of the product. Maybe this time the price won't drive me away as has been the case in the past. Please do not take that as a slam. It is not. I know the quality is there and it is a matter of economics for me only that has ever kept me away from Alvarion products. You guys build good stuff and in some markets the price is easily recovered through ROI. Thanks, Scriv Brad Larson wrote: John, Typically 4 sector base stations are built with either 5.3 or a licensed link as backhaul. With BreezeAccess VL, true data sector performance is 28 meg's in a 20 Mhz channel and half that in 10 Mhz Next firmware release is going to mid 30's in a 20 Mhz channel (again true data rates). I know of one sector that has 200 sub's attached although most sectors have less than 100. This customer looked at most manufacturer's gear and concluded Alvarion had the management feature sets, ease of batch processing for firmware uploads, obstructed NLOS for their application, and a host of other likes including Alvarion's support infrastructure. To be honest I don't think we have many Alvarion Operators that subscribe here but that doesn't mean there aren't a crap load of them out there which should be obviuos to everyone. Typically our Operators use Alvarion support Application Engineers and Alvarion web servers such as Mike Cowan's at ACC when needed. This could end up being a long dialog about the differences in operators, products, and ROI models but I won't go there. Brad -- WISPA Wireless
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform
Yes -- experimental licenses have been available for quite some time now -- we have one =) But if you read the FCC rules closely -- there are A LOT of limitations, and no, running a business off such a license is a BAD IDEA -Charles --- WiNOG Austin, TX March 13-15, 2006 http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform This has been discussed in depth on the private WISPA list. The FCC is giving 3.65Ghz licenses for experimental purposes, which you can use to provide customers with service. However, it may not be a wise business decision to rely on experimental spectrum, which can go away at any time. -Matt Charles Wu wrote: Hi Matt, Can you please shed some light on your 3.65 GHz license? To my knowledge (and we work with the FCC on licensing almost on a daily basis) -- 3.65 GHz is not yet legally licensable for commercial common carrier applications -Charles --- WiNOG Austin, TX March 13-15, 2006 http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform Is there any vendor besides Aperto that has product that will work with our 3.65Ghz license? -Matt Brad Larson wrote: Jeff, LOL. Be careful who you're listening to. Like I said, there is allot of total BS out there being spread by certain people/manufacturer's. There are several waves of certifications coming. Just because we didn't show up for the first wave doesn't mean we don't have a product. When the others get caught up Alvarion will be there for the real test phases. Brad http://www.techworld.com/mobility/features/index.cfm?featureID=2021 http://www.alvarion-usa.com/presscenter/pressreleases/2109/ http://www.alvarion-usa.com/presscenter/pressreleases/ -Original Message- From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:50 PM To: WISPA General List; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform 3.5 / 2.5 / 5.8 Alvarion I believe from what I heard was waiting for the QOS revision to be agreed on. - Jeff On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:34:42 -0800 , Brad Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jeff, In what Frequency? There is allot of BS out there in the first wave of testing for those that have yet to get a product to market. We can discuss if you would like? Brad -Original Message- From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform The only product on the market today that will have backwards compatibility to wimax where a cpe can talk to a wimax base station is Aperto. Additionally, Alvarion will not be one of the first round products certified for wimax, Airspan and Aperto however, will be. - Jeff On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:22:30 -0600, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there a firmware upgrade path for WiMAX through the VL product line or is it a hardware change? Feel free to have someone contact me offlist for pricing information. I have a need for a PtMP system with more capacity than I have now with my current system. I do not know of many systems that meet the specs you list here and I already know many people are quite fond of the product. Maybe this time the price won't drive me away as has been the case in the past. Please do not take that as a slam. It is not. I know the quality is there and it is a matter of economics for me only that has ever kept me away from Alvarion products. You guys build good stuff and in some markets the price is easily recovered through ROI. Thanks, Scriv Brad Larson wrote: John, Typically 4 sector base stations are built with either 5.3 or a licensed link as backhaul. With BreezeAccess VL, true data sector performance is 28 meg's in a 20 Mhz channel and half that in 10 Mhz Next firmware release is going to mid 30's in a 20 Mhz channel (again true data rates). I know of one sector that has 200 sub's attached although most sectors have less than 100. This customer looked at most manufacturer's gear and concluded Alvarion had the management feature sets, ease of batch processing for firmware uploads, obstructed NLOS for their application, and a host of other likes including Alvarion's support infrastructure. To be honest I don't think we have many Alvarion Operators
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform
There are operators who applied for say, an experimental license with 500 subscribers testing the RF portion of the service. It is a risk, but since that spectrum is slated to be unlicensed, I doubt the risk is too great. - Jeff On Jan 5, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Charles Wu wrote: Yes -- experimental licenses have been available for quite some time now -- we have one =) But if you read the FCC rules closely -- there are A LOT of limitations, and no, running a business off such a license is a BAD IDEA -Charles --- WiNOG Austin, TX March 13-15, 2006 http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform This has been discussed in depth on the private WISPA list. The FCC is giving 3.65Ghz licenses for experimental purposes, which you can use to provide customers with service. However, it may not be a wise business decision to rely on experimental spectrum, which can go away at any time. -Matt Charles Wu wrote: Hi Matt, Can you please shed some light on your 3.65 GHz license? To my knowledge (and we work with the FCC on licensing almost on a daily basis) -- 3.65 GHz is not yet legally licensable for commercial common carrier applications -Charles --- WiNOG Austin, TX March 13-15, 2006 http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform Is there any vendor besides Aperto that has product that will work with our 3.65Ghz license? -Matt Brad Larson wrote: Jeff, LOL. Be careful who you're listening to. Like I said, there is allot of total BS out there being spread by certain people/manufacturer's. There are several waves of certifications coming. Just because we didn't show up for the first wave doesn't mean we don't have a product. When the others get caught up Alvarion will be there for the real test phases. Brad http://www.techworld.com/mobility/features/index.cfm?featureID=2021 http://www.alvarion-usa.com/presscenter/pressreleases/2109/ http://www.alvarion-usa.com/presscenter/pressreleases/ -Original Message- From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:50 PM To: WISPA General List; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform 3.5 / 2.5 / 5.8 Alvarion I believe from what I heard was waiting for the QOS revision to be agreed on. - Jeff On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:34:42 -0800 , Brad Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jeff, In what Frequency? There is allot of BS out there in the first wave of testing for those that have yet to get a product to market. We can discuss if you would like? Brad -Original Message- From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform The only product on the market today that will have backwards compatibility to wimax where a cpe can talk to a wimax base station is Aperto. Additionally, Alvarion will not be one of the first round products certified for wimax, Airspan and Aperto however, will be. - Jeff On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:22:30 -0600, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there a firmware upgrade path for WiMAX through the VL product line or is it a hardware change? Feel free to have someone contact me offlist for pricing information. I have a need for a PtMP system with more capacity than I have now with my current system. I do not know of many systems that meet the specs you list here and I already know many people are quite fond of the product. Maybe this time the price won't drive me away as has been the case in the past. Please do not take that as a slam. It is not. I know the quality is there and it is a matter of economics for me only that has ever kept me away from Alvarion products. You guys build good stuff and in some markets the price is easily recovered through ROI. Thanks, Scriv Brad Larson wrote: John, Typically 4 sector base stations are built with either 5.3 or a licensed link as backhaul. With BreezeAccess VL, true data sector performance is 28 meg's in a 20 Mhz channel and half that in 10 Mhz Next firmware release is going to mid 30's in a 20 Mhz channel (again true data rates). I know of one sector that has 200 sub's attached although most sectors have less than 100. This customer looked at most manufacturer's gear and concluded Alvarion had the management feature sets, ease of batch processing for firmware uploads, obstructed
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform
No firmware upgrade will be available and it's a different chipset on both base stations and cpe. But we'll support VL for a long time so you won't have to worry about a deployment getting canned. Brad -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 4:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform Is there a firmware upgrade path for WiMAX through the VL product line or is it a hardware change? Feel free to have someone contact me offlist for pricing information. I have a need for a PtMP system with more capacity than I have now with my current system. I do not know of many systems that meet the specs you list here and I already know many people are quite fond of the product. Maybe this time the price won't drive me away as has been the case in the past. Please do not take that as a slam. It is not. I know the quality is there and it is a matter of economics for me only that has ever kept me away from Alvarion products. You guys build good stuff and in some markets the price is easily recovered through ROI. Thanks, Scriv Brad Larson wrote: John, Typically 4 sector base stations are built with either 5.3 or a licensed link as backhaul. With BreezeAccess VL, true data sector performance is 28 meg's in a 20 Mhz channel and half that in 10 Mhz Next firmware release is going to mid 30's in a 20 Mhz channel (again true data rates). I know of one sector that has 200 sub's attached although most sectors have less than 100. This customer looked at most manufacturer's gear and concluded Alvarion had the management feature sets, ease of batch processing for firmware uploads, obstructed NLOS for their application, and a host of other likes including Alvarion's support infrastructure. To be honest I don't think we have many Alvarion Operators that subscribe here but that doesn't mean there aren't a crap load of them out there which should be obviuos to everyone. Typically our Operators use Alvarion support Application Engineers and Alvarion web servers such as Mike Cowan's at ACC when needed. This could end up being a long dialog about the differences in operators, products, and ROI models but I won't go there. Brad -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This mail passed through mail.alvarion.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This mail passed through mail.alvarion.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform
The only product on the market today that will have backwards compatibility to wimax where a cpe can talk to a wimax base station is Aperto. Additionally, Alvarion will not be one of the first round products certified for wimax, Airspan and Aperto however, will be. - Jeff On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:22:30 -0600, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there a firmware upgrade path for WiMAX through the VL product line or is it a hardware change? Feel free to have someone contact me offlist for pricing information. I have a need for a PtMP system with more capacity than I have now with my current system. I do not know of many systems that meet the specs you list here and I already know many people are quite fond of the product. Maybe this time the price won't drive me away as has been the case in the past. Please do not take that as a slam. It is not. I know the quality is there and it is a matter of economics for me only that has ever kept me away from Alvarion products. You guys build good stuff and in some markets the price is easily recovered through ROI. Thanks, Scriv Brad Larson wrote: John, Typically 4 sector base stations are built with either 5.3 or a licensed link as backhaul. With BreezeAccess VL, true data sector performance is 28 meg's in a 20 Mhz channel and half that in 10 Mhz Next firmware release is going to mid 30's in a 20 Mhz channel (again true data rates). I know of one sector that has 200 sub's attached although most sectors have less than 100. This customer looked at most manufacturer's gear and concluded Alvarion had the management feature sets, ease of batch processing for firmware uploads, obstructed NLOS for their application, and a host of other likes including Alvarion's support infrastructure. To be honest I don't think we have many Alvarion Operators that subscribe here but that doesn't mean there aren't a crap load of them out there which should be obviuos to everyone. Typically our Operators use Alvarion support Application Engineers and Alvarion web servers such as Mike Cowan's at ACC when needed. This could end up being a long dialog about the differences in operators, products, and ROI models but I won't go there. Brad -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform
Jeff, In what Frequency? There is allot of BS out there in the first wave of testing for those that have yet to get a product to market. We can discuss if you would like? Brad -Original Message- From: jeffrey thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL as a PtMP Platform The only product on the market today that will have backwards compatibility to wimax where a cpe can talk to a wimax base station is Aperto. Additionally, Alvarion will not be one of the first round products certified for wimax, Airspan and Aperto however, will be. - Jeff On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:22:30 -0600, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there a firmware upgrade path for WiMAX through the VL product line or is it a hardware change? Feel free to have someone contact me offlist for pricing information. I have a need for a PtMP system with more capacity than I have now with my current system. I do not know of many systems that meet the specs you list here and I already know many people are quite fond of the product. Maybe this time the price won't drive me away as has been the case in the past. Please do not take that as a slam. It is not. I know the quality is there and it is a matter of economics for me only that has ever kept me away from Alvarion products. You guys build good stuff and in some markets the price is easily recovered through ROI. Thanks, Scriv Brad Larson wrote: John, Typically 4 sector base stations are built with either 5.3 or a licensed link as backhaul. With BreezeAccess VL, true data sector performance is 28 meg's in a 20 Mhz channel and half that in 10 Mhz Next firmware release is going to mid 30's in a 20 Mhz channel (again true data rates). I know of one sector that has 200 sub's attached although most sectors have less than 100. This customer looked at most manufacturer's gear and concluded Alvarion had the management feature sets, ease of batch processing for firmware uploads, obstructed NLOS for their application, and a host of other likes including Alvarion's support infrastructure. To be honest I don't think we have many Alvarion Operators that subscribe here but that doesn't mean there aren't a crap load of them out there which should be obviuos to everyone. Typically our Operators use Alvarion support Application Engineers and Alvarion web servers such as Mike Cowan's at ACC when needed. This could end up being a long dialog about the differences in operators, products, and ROI models but I won't go there. Brad -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This mail passed through mail.alvarion.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This mail passed through mail.alvarion.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
