Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
I've been asking for something like this for years. Now if you could throw in a SIP ATA as well with battery backup, it would be perfect! Linksys only sells the VoIP routers to the big boys and I have no idea why we can't get them. (New, not hacked) On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I don't know. Seems so simple. I believe the new UBNT Nano M's have a controllable PoE port on them. At least, that's how I read their site. Haven't toyed with it yet. If UBNT can do it, MT can do it better. :-) On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: That would be amazing. Never seen any device like this provide power, wonder why. On 11/16/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: What we *really* want, and would buy a *lot* of is an indoor router with PoE OUTPUT (or passthru, whatever you want to call it). i.e. a RB750 inside the home, with integrated wireless (802.11g, standard power is fine), 4-port switch, standard DC input. But, here's the wishful part! On the WAN port, it'd pass-thru whatever voltage it was getting input on the DC input plug. That means we could install a managed-router for the customer, and use only a single wall-wart power supply. I'm sure if MT came out with something like this the PoE pass-thru port would be software controllable, and probably watchdog'able. So if the antenna outside locked up, lost connectivity, whatever--the inside router could powercycle it. We could care less about a web interface. We'd provide these as a managed service to the customer, they'd never login to it anyway. If something like this came along, we'd install one at every single install and require the customer use it. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:09 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
I believe UBNT has a box like this in the works. He was also interested in integrating an ATA, but that would take a bit more work to get right, since really only Sipura has been able to do that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:06 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this? What we *really* want, and would buy a *lot* of is an indoor router with PoE OUTPUT (or passthru, whatever you want to call it). i.e. a RB750 inside the home, with integrated wireless (802.11g, standard power is fine), 4-port switch, standard DC input. But, here's the wishful part! On the WAN port, it'd pass-thru whatever voltage it was getting input on the DC input plug. That means we could install a managed-router for the customer, and use only a single wall-wart power supply. I'm sure if MT came out with something like this the PoE pass-thru port would be software controllable, and probably watchdog'able. So if the antenna outside locked up, lost connectivity, whatever--the inside router could powercycle it. We could care less about a web interface. We'd provide these as a managed service to the customer, they'd never login to it anyway. If something like this came along, we'd install one at every single install and require the customer use it. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:09 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
Its coming :) --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this? Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
MikroTik used to support some sort of VoIP interface; I forget what it was. I'm sure this is possible as well, if they wanted to. We'd love to have something like this too--but think it's a little further off. In fact, even if it was just a device like the IAXy that'd be fine. But then you get into all sorts of other ideas like having it mountable outside, so you could mount it near their existing telco NIU. Ideas and requestsare endless, I guess. :-) FYI, we buy PAP2-NA's and SPA2102-NA's (the unlocked versions) all day long online, in quantities as small as 1 at a time. We used to get them all through IngramMicro, but found that just Googleing for X-NA is cheaper than buying wholesale. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: I've been asking for something like this for years. Now if you could throw in a SIP ATA as well with battery backup, it would be perfect! Linksys only sells the VoIP routers to the big boys and I have no idea why we can't get them. (New, not hacked) On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I don't know. Seems so simple. I believe the new UBNT Nano M's have a controllable PoE port on them. At least, that's how I read their site. Haven't toyed with it yet. If UBNT can do it, MT can do it better. :-) On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: That would be amazing. Never seen any device like this provide power, wonder why. On 11/16/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: What we *really* want, and would buy a *lot* of is an indoor router with PoE OUTPUT (or passthru, whatever you want to call it). i.e. a RB750 inside the home, with integrated wireless (802.11g, standard power is fine), 4-port switch, standard DC input. But, here's the wishful part! On the WAN port, it'd pass-thru whatever voltage it was getting input on the DC input plug. That means we could install a managed-router for the customer, and use only a single wall-wart power supply. I'm sure if MT came out with something like this the PoE pass-thru port would be software controllable, and probably watchdog'able. So if the antenna outside locked up, lost connectivity, whatever--the inside router could powercycle it. We could care less about a web interface. We'd provide these as a managed service to the customer, they'd never login to it anyway. If something like this came along, we'd install one at every single install and require the customer use it. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:09 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
I have them new and un-hacked. PAP2T and WRP400. I got them from buy.com. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:20 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this? I've been asking for something like this for years. Now if you could throw in a SIP ATA as well with battery backup, it would be perfect! Linksys only sells the VoIP routers to the big boys and I have no idea why we can't get them. (New, not hacked) On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I don't know. Seems so simple. I believe the new UBNT Nano M's have a controllable PoE port on them. At least, that's how I read their site. Haven't toyed with it yet. If UBNT can do it, MT can do it better. :-) On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: That would be amazing. Never seen any device like this provide power, wonder why. On 11/16/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: What we *really* want, and would buy a *lot* of is an indoor router with PoE OUTPUT (or passthru, whatever you want to call it). i.e. a RB750 inside the home, with integrated wireless (802.11g, standard power is fine), 4-port switch, standard DC input. But, here's the wishful part! On the WAN port, it'd pass-thru whatever voltage it was getting input on the DC input plug. That means we could install a managed-router for the customer, and use only a single wall-wart power supply. I'm sure if MT came out with something like this the PoE pass-thru port would be software controllable, and probably watchdog'able. So if the antenna outside locked up, lost connectivity, whatever--the inside router could powercycle it. We could care less about a web interface. We'd provide these as a managed service to the customer, they'd never login to it anyway. If something like this came along, we'd install one at every single install and require the customer use it. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:09 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
Don't care about the web interface, but a device to replace the Dlink/Linksys/etc devices that is a routerboard+routerOS would be amazing. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:09 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
A 411AH with a built-in N radio in a nice plastic case would be great! George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this? Don't care about the web interface, but a device to replace the Dlink/Linksys/etc devices that is a routerboard+routerOS would be amazing. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:09 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
Is Ubiquiti ever gonna come out with a wireless router? -RickG On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Don't care about the web interface, but a device to replace the Dlink/Linksys/etc devices that is a routerboard+routerOS would be amazing. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:09 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
Good question. Mikrotik, Ubuiqiti - ready, set, GO!!! On 11/15/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Is Ubiquiti ever gonna come out with a wireless router? -RickG On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Don't care about the web interface, but a device to replace the Dlink/Linksys/etc devices that is a routerboard+routerOS would be amazing. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:09 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
It's still going to be more expensive than the Linksys and Netgear solutions. They are charging $39 now for a basic 5 port box. If you add wireless, it will be $59 or $69. We are buying Netgear routers for $22 right now with 802.11g in them and they work great. Travis Microserv os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
For $22? Where and at what quantity? On 11/15/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: It's still going to be more expensive than the Linksys and Netgear solutions. They are charging $39 now for a basic 5 port box. If you add wireless, it will be $59 or $69. We are buying Netgear routers for $22 right now with 802.11g in them and they work great. Travis Microserv os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
I think the MT RB750 could sell for less, but I suspect the problem is volume. I think they could add wireless and compete with the consumer grade junk if the price was reasonable and if MT was a bit more of a household name. It would take an easy and intuitive web interface, something for doing the basic setup which is as easy to use as the web interface the consumer grade stuff. For going further you'd need WinBox. A lot of people read the speed tests of wireless routers and base their decisions on that. People realize that wireless routers with the same wireless technology achieve vastly different speeds in actual testing. I think something from MT would beat a $22 Netgear box hands down on speed. Factor in the powerful bandwidth management and other features the MT box has and it would be a winner for the folks that look at more than price. The super cheap consumer stuff scares me. Factor out the price of retail markup, transportation, packaging, advertising and what are you really getting for your money in terms of hardware? Greg On Nov 15, 2009, at 11:37 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: It's still going to be more expensive than the Linksys and Netgear solutions. They are charging $39 now for a basic 5 port box. If you add wireless, it will be $59 or $69. We are buying Netgear routers for $22 right now with 802.11g in them and they work great. Travis Microserv os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
I just had another install/take over from a nearby WISP where a customer wanted 4by1 and the MT CPE was doing 4by1 but the router he had would only do something like ~768 by something less. Took the router out of the equation (it was all wired) and his PC was doing 4by1. Can't imagine what kind of router has problems pushing a meg. Having said that I don't have the same stance on a more expensive device winning hands down. Typically, people just want something that works so they will try the $22 device and spend more if needed, regardless of likelihood or what you suggest. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:27 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I think the MT RB750 could sell for less, but I suspect the problem is volume. I think they could add wireless and compete with the consumer grade junk if the price was reasonable and if MT was a bit more of a household name. It would take an easy and intuitive web interface, something for doing the basic setup which is as easy to use as the web interface the consumer grade stuff. For going further you'd need WinBox. A lot of people read the speed tests of wireless routers and base their decisions on that. People realize that wireless routers with the same wireless technology achieve vastly different speeds in actual testing. I think something from MT would beat a $22 Netgear box hands down on speed. Factor in the powerful bandwidth management and other features the MT box has and it would be a winner for the folks that look at more than price. The super cheap consumer stuff scares me. Factor out the price of retail markup, transportation, packaging, advertising and what are you really getting for your money in terms of hardware? Greg On Nov 15, 2009, at 11:37 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: It's still going to be more expensive than the Linksys and Netgear solutions. They are charging $39 now for a basic 5 port box. If you add wireless, it will be $59 or $69. We are buying Netgear routers for $22 right now with 802.11g in them and they work great. Travis Microserv os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
A basic $25 wireless router works just fine for 99% of the population. We are selling 512k to 3Mbps connections... any router on the market will handle that load. Even people selling 15-20Mbps connections could use a Linksys WRT54G and be just fine. Travis Microserv os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I think the MT RB750 could sell for less, but I suspect the problem is volume. I think they could add wireless and compete with the consumer grade junk if the price was reasonable and if MT was a bit more of a household name. It would take an easy and intuitive web interface, something for doing the basic setup which is as easy to use as the web interface the consumer grade stuff. For going further you'd need WinBox. A lot of people read the speed tests of wireless routers and base their decisions on that. People realize that wireless routers with the same wireless technology achieve vastly different speeds in actual testing. I think something from MT would beat a $22 Netgear box hands down on speed. Factor in the powerful bandwidth management and other features the MT box has and it would be a winner for the folks that look at more than price. The super cheap consumer stuff scares me. Factor out the price of retail markup, transportation, packaging, advertising and what are you really getting for your money in terms of hardware? Greg On Nov 15, 2009, at 11:37 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: It's still going to be more expensive than the Linksys and Netgear solutions. They are charging $39 now for a basic 5 port box. If you add wireless, it will be $59 or $69. We are buying Netgear routers for $22 right now with 802.11g in them and they work great. Travis Microserv os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
Except for the one that the customer had last week. I don't think the installer got more then 2 megs peak. On 11/16/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: A basic $25 wireless router works just fine for 99% of the population. We are selling 512k to 3Mbps connections... any router on the market will handle that load. Even people selling 15-20Mbps connections could use a Linksys WRT54G and be just fine. Travis Microserv os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I think the MT RB750 could sell for less, but I suspect the problem is volume. I think they could add wireless and compete with the consumer grade junk if the price was reasonable and if MT was a bit more of a household name. It would take an easy and intuitive web interface, something for doing the basic setup which is as easy to use as the web interface the consumer grade stuff. For going further you'd need WinBox. A lot of people read the speed tests of wireless routers and base their decisions on that. People realize that wireless routers with the same wireless technology achieve vastly different speeds in actual testing. I think something from MT would beat a $22 Netgear box hands down on speed. Factor in the powerful bandwidth management and other features the MT box has and it would be a winner for the folks that look at more than price. The super cheap consumer stuff scares me. Factor out the price of retail markup, transportation, packaging, advertising and what are you really getting for your money in terms of hardware? Greg On Nov 15, 2009, at 11:37 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: It's still going to be more expensive than the Linksys and Netgear solutions. They are charging $39 now for a basic 5 port box. If you add wireless, it will be $59 or $69. We are buying Netgear routers for $22 right now with 802.11g in them and they work great. Travis Microserv os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
What we *really* want, and would buy a *lot* of is an indoor router with PoE OUTPUT (or passthru, whatever you want to call it). i.e. a RB750 inside the home, with integrated wireless (802.11g, standard power is fine), 4-port switch, standard DC input. But, here's the wishful part! On the WAN port, it'd pass-thru whatever voltage it was getting input on the DC input plug. That means we could install a managed-router for the customer, and use only a single wall-wart power supply. I'm sure if MT came out with something like this the PoE pass-thru port would be software controllable, and probably watchdog'able. So if the antenna outside locked up, lost connectivity, whatever--the inside router could powercycle it. We could care less about a web interface. We'd provide these as a managed service to the customer, they'd never login to it anyway. If something like this came along, we'd install one at every single install and require the customer use it. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:09 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
That would be amazing. Never seen any device like this provide power, wonder why. On 11/16/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: What we *really* want, and would buy a *lot* of is an indoor router with PoE OUTPUT (or passthru, whatever you want to call it). i.e. a RB750 inside the home, with integrated wireless (802.11g, standard power is fine), 4-port switch, standard DC input. But, here's the wishful part! On the WAN port, it'd pass-thru whatever voltage it was getting input on the DC input plug. That means we could install a managed-router for the customer, and use only a single wall-wart power supply. I'm sure if MT came out with something like this the PoE pass-thru port would be software controllable, and probably watchdog'able. So if the antenna outside locked up, lost connectivity, whatever--the inside router could powercycle it. We could care less about a web interface. We'd provide these as a managed service to the customer, they'd never login to it anyway. If something like this came along, we'd install one at every single install and require the customer use it. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:09 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone else wish for this?
I don't know. Seems so simple. I believe the new UBNT Nano M's have a controllable PoE port on them. At least, that's how I read their site. Haven't toyed with it yet. If UBNT can do it, MT can do it better. :-) On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: That would be amazing. Never seen any device like this provide power, wonder why. On 11/16/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: What we *really* want, and would buy a *lot* of is an indoor router with PoE OUTPUT (or passthru, whatever you want to call it). i.e. a RB750 inside the home, with integrated wireless (802.11g, standard power is fine), 4-port switch, standard DC input. But, here's the wishful part! On the WAN port, it'd pass-thru whatever voltage it was getting input on the DC input plug. That means we could install a managed-router for the customer, and use only a single wall-wart power supply. I'm sure if MT came out with something like this the PoE pass-thru port would be software controllable, and probably watchdog'able. So if the antenna outside locked up, lost connectivity, whatever--the inside router could powercycle it. We could care less about a web interface. We'd provide these as a managed service to the customer, they'd never login to it anyway. If something like this came along, we'd install one at every single install and require the customer use it. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:09 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Something like the MT RB750 but with 802.11n. Top it off with an easier web interface which would make basic setup as a home router/AP simple for the uninitiated. I'm thinking something of quality with the power of a RouterOS level 4 license to compete with the crappy dlink/linksys/netgear consumer grade router/APs. With the current MT lineup if one does this piecemeal they have to start with a routerboard with way more ethernet ports and three wireless card slots and you still have to add the case, power supply, wireless card and antennas and it ends up being pricey. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
