Re: [WISPA] Appology for the Canadian Remark

2006-08-17 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists

Thanks JohnnyO.

Matt Larsen (conveniently located halfway between Louisiana and Canada, 
between the two extremes :^)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


JohnnyO wrote:

I appologize if I offended any canadians with my "canadian" comment.
Also appologize if I offended anyone by accusing someone of stealing a
thread for self-promotion of their own product lines not associated with
the thread title itself. Some things just get me excited. 


Bash me offlist if needed.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:42 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 [THREAD CLOSED]


Better late than never!  This Thread is closed.  Start a new thread if
you want to discuss either platforms further and keep it civil. Offline
discussions with the various parties of this thread have taken place and
concerns have been voiced.

Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2

Thank you Matt. I am glad you took this one. I would have said the exact

same things you did if I was that good with words. I absolutely agree 
with everything you said here.

:-)
Scriv



Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

  

Calm down kids!!

First of all to JohnnyO - you need to spend a lot more time practicing
some self-control.  Instead of digging into Lonnie, why not just make 
a request to change the name of the thread.  FWIW, Lonnie did NOT 
hijack this thread - others who were testing WAR boards out brought up



  
their experiences with it and testing and Lonnie responded.  That is 
entirely appropriate.  There would not be a response like George's if 
you didn't have a history of pissing people off on this and other 
lists.  What George said is true - there are companies and other WISPs



  
that won't subscribe to a list of you are on it.  I'm not going to go 
into details here, but you are welcome to hit me up offlist if you 
want a breakdown.   Also it is not George's responsibility to manage 
posts and subject lines, so it is not fair to dig into him about list 
management.


Second, to George.  I appreciate your desire to maintain decorum on
the lists, but I think it would have been more appropriate to respond 
to JohnnyO offlist.  I don't think this was a situation of bigotry, 
just a slightly misunderstood bit of joking around between a couple of



  
people who are a little bit sensitive toward ribbing coming from each 
other.  Not a big deal at all.


Finally, to everyone...

I am very happy to see that we have built up a nice community on the
WISPA lists, and I  hope we continue to build that sense of 
community.  I am all for a little bit of spice and it is good to see 
some legitimate, real world experience and testing get exchanged 
between the members.  Of all the lists I'm on, this is now the most 
useful one to me by FAR, and that is not something that happened 
overnight.  It has taken some time and unfortunately we do still have 
to try to put people in their place when things get a little too out 
of hand, but overall I think that we have done a very good job of 
maintaining the balance between total control and anarchy.

Peace out,

Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


JohnnyO wrote:


George - can you tell me if calling me a bigot is a slam ? IF it is, 
then you fall under the same category. I guess it's ok for a vendor 
to hijack threads to promote his own stuff ? The thread was about the
  


  

Routerboard 532As and Mikrotik. This is my opinion and I will post my
  


  
opinions. I guess you think it's ok for you to practice DICTATORSHIP 
? I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and 
Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of 
Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS !

Maybe you should put more time into managing the posts and subject
  

lines
  

of the threads.

I do have an opinion and am a paying member.

Which vendors are you talking about ? Which WISPs ? Don't throw out 
bullcrap unless you're willing to provide the proof.


I banter/kid/joke with the Canadians and have for several years and 
will continue to do so. I have slammed vendors on Part-15s lists and 
also Judd's list who have proved to me to be substandard in customer 
service or product quality, but I can't recall the last time I 
"slammed" a vendor on WISPA.


JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of George Rogato

Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2


 

  

*Lonnie is famous for hijacking threads to promote his products.
We shouldn't punish him for i

Re: [WISPA] Appology for the Canadian Remark

2006-08-17 Thread Joe Laura
Can I bash first?LOL
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
- Original Message -
From: "Cliff Leboeuf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Appology for the Canadian Remark


> Why off-list? :-)
>
>
> On 8/17/06 6:30 PM, "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I appologize if I offended any canadians with my "canadian" comment.
> > Also appologize if I offended anyone by accusing someone of stealing a
> > thread for self-promotion of their own product lines not associated with
> > the thread title itself. Some things just get me excited.
> >
> > Bash me offlist if needed.
> >
> > JohnnyO
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Rick Harnish
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:42 PM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 [THREAD CLOSED]
> >
> >
> > Better late than never!  This Thread is closed.  Start a new thread if
> > you want to discuss either platforms further and keep it civil. Offline
> > discussions with the various parties of this thread have taken place and
> > concerns have been voiced.
> >
> > Rick Harnish
> > President
> > Supernova Technologies, Inc.
> > 260-827-2482
> > Founding Member of WISPA
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of John Scrivner
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:46 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2
> >
> > Thank you Matt. I am glad you took this one. I would have said the exact
> >
> > same things you did if I was that good with words. I absolutely agree
> > with everything you said here.
> > :-)
> > Scriv
> >
> >
> >
> > Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> >
> >> Calm down kids!!
> >>
> >> First of all to JohnnyO - you need to spend a lot more time practicing
> >> some self-control.  Instead of digging into Lonnie, why not just make
> >> a request to change the name of the thread.  FWIW, Lonnie did NOT
> >> hijack this thread - others who were testing WAR boards out brought up
> >
> >> their experiences with it and testing and Lonnie responded.  That is
> >> entirely appropriate.  There would not be a response like George's if
> >> you didn't have a history of pissing people off on this and other
> >> lists.  What George said is true - there are companies and other WISPs
> >
> >> that won't subscribe to a list of you are on it.  I'm not going to go
> >> into details here, but you are welcome to hit me up offlist if you
> >> want a breakdown.   Also it is not George's responsibility to manage
> >> posts and subject lines, so it is not fair to dig into him about list
> >> management.
> >>
> >> Second, to George.  I appreciate your desire to maintain decorum on
> >> the lists, but I think it would have been more appropriate to respond
> >> to JohnnyO offlist.  I don't think this was a situation of bigotry,
> >> just a slightly misunderstood bit of joking around between a couple of
> >
> >> people who are a little bit sensitive toward ribbing coming from each
> >> other.  Not a big deal at all.
> >>
> >> Finally, to everyone...
> >>
> >> I am very happy to see that we have built up a nice community on the
> >> WISPA lists, and I  hope we continue to build that sense of
> >> community.  I am all for a little bit of spice and it is good to see
> >> some legitimate, real world experience and testing get exchanged
> >> between the members.  Of all the lists I'm on, this is now the most
> >> useful one to me by FAR, and that is not something that happened
> >> overnight.  It has taken some time and unfortunately we do still have
> >> to try to put people in their place when things get a little too out
> >> of hand, but overall I think that we have done a very good job of
> >> maintaining the balance between total control and anarchy.
> >> Peace out,
> >>
> >> Matt Larsen
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >> JohnnyO wrote:
> >>
> >>> George - can you tell me if calling me a bigot is a slam ? IF it is,
> >>> then you fall under the same category. I guess it's o

Re: [WISPA] Appology for the Canadian Remark

2006-08-17 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Why off-list? :-)


On 8/17/06 6:30 PM, "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I appologize if I offended any canadians with my "canadian" comment.
> Also appologize if I offended anyone by accusing someone of stealing a
> thread for self-promotion of their own product lines not associated with
> the thread title itself. Some things just get me excited.
> 
> Bash me offlist if needed.
> 
> JohnnyO
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Rick Harnish
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:42 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 [THREAD CLOSED]
> 
> 
> Better late than never!  This Thread is closed.  Start a new thread if
> you want to discuss either platforms further and keep it civil. Offline
> discussions with the various parties of this thread have taken place and
> concerns have been voiced.
> 
> Rick Harnish
> President
> Supernova Technologies, Inc.
> 260-827-2482
> Founding Member of WISPA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of John Scrivner
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:46 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2
> 
> Thank you Matt. I am glad you took this one. I would have said the exact
> 
> same things you did if I was that good with words. I absolutely agree
> with everything you said here.
> :-)
> Scriv
> 
> 
> 
> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> 
>> Calm down kids!!
>> 
>> First of all to JohnnyO - you need to spend a lot more time practicing
>> some self-control.  Instead of digging into Lonnie, why not just make
>> a request to change the name of the thread.  FWIW, Lonnie did NOT
>> hijack this thread - others who were testing WAR boards out brought up
> 
>> their experiences with it and testing and Lonnie responded.  That is
>> entirely appropriate.  There would not be a response like George's if
>> you didn't have a history of pissing people off on this and other
>> lists.  What George said is true - there are companies and other WISPs
> 
>> that won't subscribe to a list of you are on it.  I'm not going to go
>> into details here, but you are welcome to hit me up offlist if you
>> want a breakdown.   Also it is not George's responsibility to manage
>> posts and subject lines, so it is not fair to dig into him about list
>> management.
>> 
>> Second, to George.  I appreciate your desire to maintain decorum on
>> the lists, but I think it would have been more appropriate to respond
>> to JohnnyO offlist.  I don't think this was a situation of bigotry,
>> just a slightly misunderstood bit of joking around between a couple of
> 
>> people who are a little bit sensitive toward ribbing coming from each
>> other.  Not a big deal at all.
>> 
>> Finally, to everyone...
>> 
>> I am very happy to see that we have built up a nice community on the
>> WISPA lists, and I  hope we continue to build that sense of
>> community.  I am all for a little bit of spice and it is good to see
>> some legitimate, real world experience and testing get exchanged
>> between the members.  Of all the lists I'm on, this is now the most
>> useful one to me by FAR, and that is not something that happened
>> overnight.  It has taken some time and unfortunately we do still have
>> to try to put people in their place when things get a little too out
>> of hand, but overall I think that we have done a very good job of
>> maintaining the balance between total control and anarchy.
>> Peace out,
>> 
>> Matt Larsen
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> 
>> JohnnyO wrote:
>> 
>>> George - can you tell me if calling me a bigot is a slam ? IF it is,
>>> then you fall under the same category. I guess it's ok for a vendor
>>> to hijack threads to promote his own stuff ? The thread was about the
> 
>>> Routerboard 532As and Mikrotik. This is my opinion and I will post my
> 
>>> opinions. I guess you think it's ok for you to practice DICTATORSHIP
>>> ? I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and
>>> Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of
>>> Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS !
>>> Maybe you should put more time into managing the posts and subject
> lines
>>> of the threads.
>>> 
>>> I do have an opinion and am a paying member.
>>> 
>>> Which vendors are you talking about ? Which WISPs ? Don't throw out
>>> bullcrap unless you're willing to provide the proof.
>>> 
>>> I banter/kid/joke with the Canadians and have for several years and
>>> will continue to do so. I have slammed vendors on Part-15s lists and
>>> also Judd's list who have proved to me to be substandard in customer
>>> service or product quality, but I can't recall the last time I
>>> "slammed" a vendor on WISPA.
>>> 
>>> JohnnyO
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Behalf Of George Rogato
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:50 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> 

RE: [WISPA] Appology for the Canadian Remark

2006-08-17 Thread JohnnyO
I appologize if I offended any canadians with my "canadian" comment.
Also appologize if I offended anyone by accusing someone of stealing a
thread for self-promotion of their own product lines not associated with
the thread title itself. Some things just get me excited. 

Bash me offlist if needed.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:42 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 [THREAD CLOSED]


Better late than never!  This Thread is closed.  Start a new thread if
you want to discuss either platforms further and keep it civil. Offline
discussions with the various parties of this thread have taken place and
concerns have been voiced.

Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2

Thank you Matt. I am glad you took this one. I would have said the exact

same things you did if I was that good with words. I absolutely agree 
with everything you said here.
:-)
Scriv



Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

> Calm down kids!!
>
> First of all to JohnnyO - you need to spend a lot more time practicing
> some self-control.  Instead of digging into Lonnie, why not just make 
> a request to change the name of the thread.  FWIW, Lonnie did NOT 
> hijack this thread - others who were testing WAR boards out brought up

> their experiences with it and testing and Lonnie responded.  That is 
> entirely appropriate.  There would not be a response like George's if 
> you didn't have a history of pissing people off on this and other 
> lists.  What George said is true - there are companies and other WISPs

> that won't subscribe to a list of you are on it.  I'm not going to go 
> into details here, but you are welcome to hit me up offlist if you 
> want a breakdown.   Also it is not George's responsibility to manage 
> posts and subject lines, so it is not fair to dig into him about list 
> management.
>
> Second, to George.  I appreciate your desire to maintain decorum on
> the lists, but I think it would have been more appropriate to respond 
> to JohnnyO offlist.  I don't think this was a situation of bigotry, 
> just a slightly misunderstood bit of joking around between a couple of

> people who are a little bit sensitive toward ribbing coming from each 
> other.  Not a big deal at all.
>
> Finally, to everyone...
>
> I am very happy to see that we have built up a nice community on the
> WISPA lists, and I  hope we continue to build that sense of 
> community.  I am all for a little bit of spice and it is good to see 
> some legitimate, real world experience and testing get exchanged 
> between the members.  Of all the lists I'm on, this is now the most 
> useful one to me by FAR, and that is not something that happened 
> overnight.  It has taken some time and unfortunately we do still have 
> to try to put people in their place when things get a little too out 
> of hand, but overall I think that we have done a very good job of 
> maintaining the balance between total control and anarchy.
> Peace out,
>
> Matt Larsen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> JohnnyO wrote:
>
>> George - can you tell me if calling me a bigot is a slam ? IF it is, 
>> then you fall under the same category. I guess it's ok for a vendor 
>> to hijack threads to promote his own stuff ? The thread was about the

>> Routerboard 532As and Mikrotik. This is my opinion and I will post my

>> opinions. I guess you think it's ok for you to practice DICTATORSHIP 
>> ? I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and 
>> Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of 
>> Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS !
>> Maybe you should put more time into managing the posts and subject
lines
>> of the threads.
>>
>> I do have an opinion and am a paying member.
>>
>> Which vendors are you talking about ? Which WISPs ? Don't throw out 
>> bullcrap unless you're willing to provide the proof.
>>
>> I banter/kid/joke with the Canadians and have for several years and 
>> will continue to do so. I have slammed vendors on Part-15s lists and 
>> also Judd's list who have proved to me to be substandard in customer 
>> service or product quality, but I can't recall the last time I 
>> "slammed" a vendor on WISPA.
>>
>> JohnnyO
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> On Behalf Of George Rogato
>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:50 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> *Lonnie is famous for hijacking threads to promote his products.
>>> We shouldn't punish him for it because after all, he is canadian !
:)~
>>>
>>> JohnnyO
>>>