Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread Eric Merkel (Mail Lists)
: 2009-01-08 16:31 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail. It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good smtp spam filter is never a bad idea

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread David E. Smith
Kurt Fankhauser wrote: According to the website one box is capable of running as either/or. (I thought) But not both at the same time :( David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread David E. Smith
Mike Hammett wrote: What about forcing those accounts to change paswords? I've been doing that - again, I'm trying to be proactive rather than reactive. If I told my boss yeah, we need to change everyone's password he'd laugh at me. And not in a funny-ha-ha way. The computer belonging to the

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick
wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail. It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good smtp spam filter is never a bad idea

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread Scott Lambert
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 11:35:57AM -0600, David E. Smith wrote: Mike Hammett wrote: What about forcing those accounts to change paswords? I've been doing that - again, I'm trying to be proactive rather than reactive. If I told my boss yeah, we need to change everyone's password he'd

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 11:35:57AM -0600, David E. Smith wrote: Mike Hammett wrote: What about forcing those accounts to change paswords? I've been doing that - again, I'm trying to be proactive

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread David E. Smith
Scott Lambert wrote: Have your techs look at each cutomer's password every time they talk to a customer. The customer is already on the phone, Dang, forgot my password again. Help them to choose a better password. Doesn't help, when the problem is their PC has keylogger software on it

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread Scott Lambert
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 01:42:15PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote: Scott Lambert wrote: Have your techs look at each cutomer's password every time they talk to a customer. The customer is already on the phone, Dang, forgot my password again. Help them to choose a better password. Doesn't

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread John Thomas
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? Are you guys using the outbound feature on your inbound Barracudas? It doesn't do as full a job as a outbound box, but it may help your problem. John Kurt

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread John Thomas
In the Barracuda, under BasicAdministration at the bottom of the page, you choose the direction, inbound or outbound. If you click on Advanced, you should have an Outbound/Relay tab. If you set this to allow your email server to relay through the Barracuda, it will log your messages and do

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread Mike Hammett
12:48 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? I didn't think they needed a password to spoof your email addy? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread os10rules
Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering necessary (gmail smtp is over ssl for example)? Greg On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering necessary (gmail smtp is over ssl for example)? Greg On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread os10rules
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering necessary (gmail smtp is over ssl for example

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? That should

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mike Hammett
It depends on the particular blacklist if it's actually true or not. My server is blacklisted by my accountant's email service, yet doesn't say why and no other blacklist considers me a threat. Attempts to remove me have been unsuccessful. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Portative Contact
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread os10rules
: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? That should be easy. I've never used Barracuda but I have used the Sonicwall and also open hardware based UTMs such as Astaro, Endian, Untangle and ClarkConnect. Any decent

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Matt
Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from getting blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is using my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
, January 08, 2009 12:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from getting blacklisted and am looking for a way

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? Kurt, Will getting the Barracuda outbound require more hardware or is it just a service you can turn on with the current hardware for a fee? I'm not familiar with the Barracuda but I would assume

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Will getting the Barracuda outbound require more hardware or is it just a service you can turn on with the current hardware for a fee? It's the same hardware, but you can't use one Barracuda to do both jobs. You buy one, and you can switch the software from

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Will getting the Barracuda

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Are they using your webmail to send out the spam. Is there any way you can tell what user's email address is compromised because all the mail delivery errors I'm getting don't show one. Yeah, my latest few problem children have been using our Web site, and

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread os10rules
I agree, those dedicated boxes are expensive and then there's the annual fee as well correct? I think I'd go with Endian on a PC. Is your spam assassin running native or as a virtual machine? Greg On Jan 8, 2009, at 2:32 PM, David E. Smith wrote: os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Will

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, those dedicated boxes are expensive and then there's the annual fee as well correct? Yeah, you'd have to keep up the Barracuda subscription on your outgoing filter as well, if you want to block current viruses and such from leaving your network. I think

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread os10rules
It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail. It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good smtp spam filter is never a bad idea. Greg On Jan 8, 2009, at 4:37 PM, David E. Smith wrote: os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, those dedicated boxes

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail. It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good smtp spam filter is never a bad idea. The problem is that the Web mail isn't broken, as such. The attackers are using

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread John Thomas
Are you guys using the outbound feature on your inbound Barracudas? It doesn't do as full a job as a outbound box, but it may help your problem. John Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as good as the inbound version? I need to keep my

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread J. Vogel
My webmail software is Squirrelmail, which does put the authenticated user in the header, but that didn't come back in the bounces (that I saw anyway) but I was able to find the compromised account by searching the Sent folders for some of the bounced recipient addresses. Picking an address that

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mike Hammett
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail. It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good smtp spam filter is never a bad idea. The problem