Re: [WISPA] Client Router selection

2006-04-04 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181



I've had good luck with Linksys.

Gotta change the lan ip to something non standard 
though.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bo 
  Hamilton 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:58 
  AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Client Router 
  selection
  
  Wondering what routers are all of you using at client installs? 
  What are the most reliable and so on? 
  thanks in advance!
  
  Bo 
  NCOWireless.com
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Client Router selection

2006-04-04 Thread John Scrivner
We have good luck with Linksys. If the customer is a larger business 
client or someone who needs higher reliability and better features we 
often load up Mikrotik on a Routerboard or WRAP board.

Scriv


Bo Hamilton wrote:

Wondering what routers are all of you using at client installs?  What 
are the most reliable and so on? 
thanks in advance!
 
Bo

NCOWireless.com


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Re: [WISPA] Client Router selection

2006-04-04 Thread John Scrivner
Sorry to answer my own post but I should also mention that if I ever 
have a larger enterprise client (like a college, hospital, etc.) that 
needs a bullet-proof routing solution I will likely sell them 
Imagestream. My next big router for my core will be an Imagestream. 
Everyone I speak to about them say they are the best out there at any 
price.

Scriv


John Scrivner wrote:

We have good luck with Linksys. If the customer is a larger business 
client or someone who needs higher reliability and better features we 
often load up Mikrotik on a Routerboard or WRAP board.

Scriv


Bo Hamilton wrote:

Wondering what routers are all of you using at client installs?  What 
are the most reliable and so on? thanks in advance!
 
Bo

NCOWireless.com




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Re: [WISPA] Client Router selection

2006-04-04 Thread Matt Liotta
The best at any price doesn't seem to fit here. You only choose a 
commodity router to save money. I don't know anything about Imagestream 
specifically, but I certainly looked into Linux-based routers. In fact, 
we even ran Linux-based routers initially before going Cisco. We didn't 
blindly go with Cisco like many companies either. We looked long and 
hard at what every major vendor had to offer and ultimately went with 
Cisco. Certainly there aren't any Linux-based routers that out perform 
high-end Cisco routers, but that wasn't the most important part. The 
ability to support features such as MPLS, find labor resources familiar 
with Cisco, and ultimately being able to finance the gear make Cisco the 
clear choice.


-Matt

John Scrivner wrote:

Sorry to answer my own post but I should also mention that if I ever 
have a larger enterprise client (like a college, hospital, etc.) that 
needs a bullet-proof routing solution I will likely sell them 
Imagestream. My next big router for my core will be an Imagestream. 
Everyone I speak to about them say they are the best out there at any 
price.

Scriv


John Scrivner wrote:

We have good luck with Linksys. If the customer is a larger business 
client or someone who needs higher reliability and better features we 
often load up Mikrotik on a Routerboard or WRAP board.

Scriv


Bo Hamilton wrote:

Wondering what routers are all of you using at client installs?  
What are the most reliable and so on? thanks in advance!
 
Bo

NCOWireless.com






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Re: [WISPA] Client Router selection

2006-04-04 Thread David E. Smith

On Tue, April 4, 2006 12:24 pm, John Scrivner wrote:
 Sorry to answer my own post but I should also mention that if I ever
 have a larger enterprise client (like a college, hospital, etc.) that
 needs a bullet-proof routing solution I will likely sell them
 Imagestream. My next big router for my core will be an Imagestream.
 Everyone I speak to about them say they are the best out there at any
 price.

Obviously, it depends on the customer. Chances are, anyone THAT big will
have their own in-house IT staff, and will want to do things their own
way. Chances are that means Cisco gear. If they want to pay for it, I can
probably make it work...

It'd have to be an awfully big customer to justify even an Imagestream,
though, much less a Cisco. WRAPs and RouterBoard 200s can reliably handle
traffic up to 15Mbps or so, and probably even more if the board is just
routing (i.e. you're not also using it with a radio card to connect to
something else). Plus, if you get those sekzi finished WRAP cases that Eje
sells, it just looks so darn cool. If you were so inclined, you could
probably make little stickers that say Cisco PIX, put one on the case,
and most customers would be none the wiser. It's about the same size and
everything... :)

Heck, this email comes to you by way of an old Celeron 1.3GHz PC that's
routing our whole network, over 25Mbps at peak times, that never goes over
about 10% CPU utilization, running Mikrotik RouterOS. If it's good enough
for WISPA, it's probably good enough for most of your customers.

I'd love to have a Cisco in that role, but the only real differences would
be:

* Access to Cisco TAC for support
* Paying about ten times the cost

The money I save will buy me a LOT of mailing lists and forums posts if I
ever need help. :)

David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Client Router selection

2006-04-04 Thread Blair Davis




All of our system routers are MikroTik OS on PC hardware. As well as
our T1 interfaces.

We are rapidly moving to deploying a small MikroTik at our towers as
well.

As to customer routers, we tend to use Netgear. But, if the customer
provides another unit, we will set that up for them.

David E. Smith wrote:

  On Tue, April 4, 2006 12:24 pm, John Scrivner wrote:
  
  
Sorry to answer my own post but I should also mention that if I ever
have a larger enterprise client (like a college, hospital, etc.) that
needs a bullet-proof routing solution I will likely sell them
Imagestream. My next big router for my core will be an Imagestream.
Everyone I speak to about them say they are the best out there at any
price.

  
  
Obviously, it depends on the customer. Chances are, anyone THAT big will
have their own in-house IT staff, and will want to do things their own
way. Chances are that means Cisco gear. If they want to pay for it, I can
probably make it work...

It'd have to be an awfully big customer to justify even an Imagestream,
though, much less a Cisco. WRAPs and RouterBoard 200s can reliably handle
traffic up to 15Mbps or so, and probably even more if the board is "just"
routing (i.e. you're not also using it with a radio card to connect to
something else). Plus, if you get those sekzi finished WRAP cases that Eje
sells, it just looks so darn cool. If you were so inclined, you could
probably make little stickers that say "Cisco PIX", put one on the case,
and most customers would be none the wiser. It's about the same size and
everything... :)

Heck, this email comes to you by way of an old Celeron 1.3GHz PC that's
routing our whole network, over 25Mbps at peak times, that never goes over
about 10% CPU utilization, running Mikrotik RouterOS. If it's good enough
for WISPA, it's probably good enough for most of your customers.

I'd love to have a Cisco in that role, but the only real differences would
be:

* Access to Cisco TAC for support
* Paying about ten times the cost

The money I save will buy me a LOT of mailing lists and forums posts if I
ever need help. :)

David Smith
MVN.net
  



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Re: [WISPA] Client Router selection

2006-04-04 Thread Bo Hamilton
Thanks everyone for all the great posts

Bo
On 4/4/06, Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

All of our system routers are MikroTik OS on PC hardware. As well as our T1 interfaces.We are rapidly moving to deploying a small MikroTik at our towers as well.As to customer routers, we tend to use Netgear. But, if the customer provides another unit, we will set that up for them.

David E. Smith wrote: 
On Tue, April 4, 2006 12:24 pm, John Scrivner wrote:
  
Sorry to answer my own post but I should also mention that if I ever
have a larger enterprise client (like a college, hospital, etc.) that
needs a bullet-proof routing solution I will likely sell them
Imagestream. My next big router for my core will be an Imagestream.
Everyone I speak to about them say they are the best out there at any
price.
Obviously, it depends on the customer. Chances are, anyone THAT big will
have their own in-house IT staff, and will want to do things their own
way. Chances are that means Cisco gear. If they want to pay for it, I can
probably make it work...

It'd have to be an awfully big customer to justify even an Imagestream,
though, much less a Cisco. WRAPs and RouterBoard 200s can reliably handle
traffic up to 15Mbps or so, and probably even more if the board is just
routing (i.e. you're not also using it with a radio card to connect to
something else). Plus, if you get those sekzi finished WRAP cases that Eje
sells, it just looks so darn cool. If you were so inclined, you could
probably make little stickers that say Cisco PIX, put one on the case,
and most customers would be none the wiser. It's about the same size and
everything... :)

Heck, this email comes to you by way of an old Celeron 1.3GHz PC that's
routing our whole network, over 25Mbps at peak times, that never goes over
about 10% CPU utilization, running Mikrotik RouterOS. If it's good enough
for WISPA, it's probably good enough for most of your customers.

I'd love to have a Cisco in that role, but the only real differences would
be:

* Access to Cisco TAC for support
* Paying about ten times the cost

The money I save will buy me a LOT of mailing lists and forums posts if I
ever need help. :)

David Smith
MVN.net
  
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AOL IM Screen Name --  Theory240

West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648

A division of:
Camp Communication Services, INC
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