Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-27 Thread John Thomas
There are several of these on I80 and Hwy 50 in Northern CA. These silly 
things cost like $40,000 to sort of look like a tree

John

Tom Sharples wrote:
 We spotted several on a recent road-trip around the Sacramento area. Looked 
 like the world's worst fake Christmas tree from Walmart!

 Tom S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar 
 telecommunicationstowers


   
 You can find a lot of fake palm trees in Las Vegas for similar reasons 
 that
 if they didn't hide the towers then they couldn't put up any more. Drive
 north towards Nellis airforce base on I-15 on the left side along the rail
 road tracks one of the palms is not a real palm. There are plenty others
 around that I seen on different smaller roads.

 Cities wants cell phones and good coverage but many starts to be sticklers
 about letting the towers go up to give this coverage. T-mobile and ATT 
 had
 a very long outdrawn fight to be able to install the towers they needed 
 in
 Pittsburg to get the coverage required. They ended up having to share 
 tower
 but even then it was not easy for then. Sister town Frontenac expedited
 their request on the other hand. The differences between cities politics 
 and
 building approvals can be very different (one reason we are now located in
 Frontenac instead of Pittsburg because Frontenac bent over backwards to 
 make
 us happy and get us going while with both Pittsburg as well the county
 everything we wanted threw up red flags).

 / Eje

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Greg
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:19 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
 telecommunicationstowers

 The town of Saddle River NJ fought the phone company and they reached an
 agreement - the phone company decorated the tower with fake evergreen
 branches. The tower looks like a big pine tree. If you're ever driving on
 Rt. 17 look at the big pine tree right next to the highway at the Saddle
 River exit.

 Greg

 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Jeff Broadwick
 jeffl...@comcast.netwrote:

 
 After all, travel is often as much about the journey as it is about the
 destination.

 WOW?!?!

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:48 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
 telecommunicationstowers

 http://www.benton.org/outgoingframe/29127


 -
 Mike Hammett
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Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-26 Thread Tom Sharples
We spotted several on a recent road-trip around the Sacramento area. Looked 
like the world's worst fake Christmas tree from Walmart!

Tom S.

- Original Message - 
From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar 
telecommunicationstowers


 You can find a lot of fake palm trees in Las Vegas for similar reasons 
 that
 if they didn't hide the towers then they couldn't put up any more. Drive
 north towards Nellis airforce base on I-15 on the left side along the rail
 road tracks one of the palms is not a real palm. There are plenty others
 around that I seen on different smaller roads.

 Cities wants cell phones and good coverage but many starts to be sticklers
 about letting the towers go up to give this coverage. T-mobile and ATT 
 had
 a very long outdrawn fight to be able to install the towers they needed 
 in
 Pittsburg to get the coverage required. They ended up having to share 
 tower
 but even then it was not easy for then. Sister town Frontenac expedited
 their request on the other hand. The differences between cities politics 
 and
 building approvals can be very different (one reason we are now located in
 Frontenac instead of Pittsburg because Frontenac bent over backwards to 
 make
 us happy and get us going while with both Pittsburg as well the county
 everything we wanted threw up red flags).

 / Eje

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Greg
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:19 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
 telecommunicationstowers

 The town of Saddle River NJ fought the phone company and they reached an
 agreement - the phone company decorated the tower with fake evergreen
 branches. The tower looks like a big pine tree. If you're ever driving on
 Rt. 17 look at the big pine tree right next to the highway at the Saddle
 River exit.

 Greg

 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Jeff Broadwick
 jeffl...@comcast.netwrote:

 After all, travel is often as much about the journey as it is about the
 destination.

 WOW?!?!

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:48 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
 telecommunicationstowers

 http://www.benton.org/outgoingframe/29127


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Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Richardson
Sometimes the cure is worse than the ailment.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tom Sharples
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar 
telecommunicationstowers

We spotted several on a recent road-trip around the Sacramento area. Looked 
like the world's worst fake Christmas tree from Walmart!

Tom S.

- Original Message - 
From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar 
telecommunicationstowers


 You can find a lot of fake palm trees in Las Vegas for similar reasons 
 that
 if they didn't hide the towers then they couldn't put up any more. Drive
 north towards Nellis airforce base on I-15 on the left side along the rail
 road tracks one of the palms is not a real palm. There are plenty others
 around that I seen on different smaller roads.

 Cities wants cell phones and good coverage but many starts to be sticklers
 about letting the towers go up to give this coverage. T-mobile and ATT 
 had
 a very long outdrawn fight to be able to install the towers they needed 
 in
 Pittsburg to get the coverage required. They ended up having to share 
 tower
 but even then it was not easy for then. Sister town Frontenac expedited
 their request on the other hand. The differences between cities politics 
 and
 building approvals can be very different (one reason we are now located in
 Frontenac instead of Pittsburg because Frontenac bent over backwards to 
 make
 us happy and get us going while with both Pittsburg as well the county
 everything we wanted threw up red flags).

 / Eje

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Greg
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:19 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
 telecommunicationstowers

 The town of Saddle River NJ fought the phone company and they reached an
 agreement - the phone company decorated the tower with fake evergreen
 branches. The tower looks like a big pine tree. If you're ever driving on
 Rt. 17 look at the big pine tree right next to the highway at the Saddle
 River exit.

 Greg

 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Jeff Broadwick
 jeffl...@comcast.netwrote:

 After all, travel is often as much about the journey as it is about the
 destination.

 WOW?!?!

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:48 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
 telecommunicationstowers

 http://www.benton.org/outgoingframe/29127


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