Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-08 Thread Blake Bowers
Grin... It includes the combo to the building so you can pull them and put them in your truck! What a deal! - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread Matt Liotta
:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Hi, If someone wants to setup whatever wireless network they would like to test and then let me know, I'll gladly send you a CD you can pop in a laptop and connect at the CPE side. It will dish out 4,000pps and 1.5Mbps of upload traffic

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread Travis Johnson
Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Hi, If someone wants to setup whatever wireless network they would like

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread Matt Liotta
DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Hi, If someone wants to setup

engineering links (was Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband)

2006-04-07 Thread Matt Liotta
I know we keep working on our processes to improve the installation of our links. We still have a burn-in period after installations because our processes aren't yet 100%. I think it would be great if we could together work up a documented procedure to ensure better wireline reliability of

Re: engineering links (was Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband)

2006-04-07 Thread Jack Unger
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Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Matt, Now you are comparing $150,000 point to point licensed microwave links with $150 CPE point to multi-point links? Travis Microserv Matt Liotta wrote

RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread danlist
-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 1:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Travis

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread Travis Johnson
: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Hi, If someone wants to setup whatever wireless network they would like to test and then let me know, I'll gladly send you a CD you can

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread Matt Liotta
Travis Johnson wrote: 20 years ago before the fiber and MCI was using links, they cost more than $150k. Even our local cell phone provider has point to point links that are over $100k today. That's nice, but they don't have to cost that much. I know one of the local metro counties here is

RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread danlist
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 2:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Travis Johnson wrote: 20 years ago before the fiber and MCI was using links, they cost more than $150k. Even our local cell phone provider has point to point links that are over

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread Matt Liotta
] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 2:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Travis Johnson wrote: 20 years ago before the fiber and MCI was using links, they cost more

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread Blake Bowers
: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Matt, 20 years ago before the fiber and MCI was using links, they cost more than $150k. Even our local cell phone provider has point to point links that are over $100k today. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread Anthony Will
- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Matt, This is not true. With a telco T1, if someone starts a 1.5Mbps

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread David E. Smith
Blake Bowers wrote: And now I can't sell those DS3 Digital microwave radios from the MCI system for anything more than 10 cents a pound. Does that price include shipping? :D David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-07 Thread Anthony Will
General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband We conducted a few focus groups here. Most of the attendees were in the 18-24 yr. age bracket. It was amazing how many didn't identify with the word broadband. The words

RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-06 Thread Victoria
. Victoria -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 1:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband We don't, but there is no need to. 3 mbps half duplex = 1.5 mbps full

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-06 Thread Matt Liotta
- From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Hi, If someone wants to setup whatever wireless network they would like to test and then let me know, I'll gladly send you

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-06 Thread Tom DeReggi
Amen, Matt. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband I'll take

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-06 Thread Travis Johnson
: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Hi, If someone wants to setup whatever wireless network they would like to test and then let me know, I'll gladly send you a CD you can pop in a laptop and connect at the CPE side. It will dish out 4,000pps and 1.5Mbps

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-06 Thread Tom DeReggi
applications such as VOIP. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Hi

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-06 Thread Travis Johnson
General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband We conducted a few focus groups here. Most of the attendees were in the 18-24 yr. age bracket. It was amazing how many didn't identify with the word broadband. The words

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-06 Thread John Scrivner
Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Hi, If someone wants to setup whatever wireless network they would like to test and then let

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-06 Thread Tom DeReggi
PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband We conducted a few focus groups here. Most of the attendees were in the 18-24 yr. age bracket. It was amazing how many didn't identify with the word

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-06 Thread Travis Johnson
Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Tom, Could you please post the sysinfo of the 5800 radio showing an uptime of 48 months... I've never seen one over 10 months (even with over 100

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-06 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
- Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Tom, Could you please post the sysinfo of the 5800 radio showing an uptime of 48 months... I've never seen

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Scott Reed
-- Original Message --- From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:39:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband We find we can NOT sell our service as Wireless Broadband As soon as we market

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Rick Smith
www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net/ *-- Original Message ---* From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:39:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband We find we can NOT sell our service as Wireless Broadband

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Travis Johnson
The big problem I see is that DSL is full-duplex. It can be transmitting and receiving at the same time. Wireless is not. Travis Microserv KyWiFi LLC wrote: I'm noticing more and more WISP's selling their wireless broadband service as DSL or Wireless DSL. I know that 75% of the people who

RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread chris cooper
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Agreed excellent point (wireless scares and confuses people), except Why associate

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
. chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Agreed excellent point (wireless scares and confuses people), except Why

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Scott Reed
General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:13:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Agreed excellent point (wireless scares and confuses people), except Why associate your service with DSL, a low grade $39 a month service, as advertized

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Travis Johnson
- From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband We conducted a few focus groups here. Most of the attendees were in the 18-24 yr. age bracket. It was amazing how many

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Matt Liotta
' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband We conducted a few focus groups here. Most of the attendees were in the 18-24 yr. age bracket. It was amazing how many didn't identify with the word broadband. The words they responded

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Travis Johnson
' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband We conducted a few focus groups here. Most of the attendees were in the 18-24 yr. age bracket. It was amazing how many didn't identify with the word broadband. The words they responded

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Matt Liotta
will eventually do the same. chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Agreed excellent point (wireless scares and confuses

RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Charles Wu
Higher ARPU WISPs in the business are selling their services as WiMAX -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Tuesday,

RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Charles Wu
snip Maybe we should be branding our service as Wi-Fiber. or Maybe Ethernet Internet Access (of course like end users will know what Ethernet means.) /snip Spend trying to build a new brand around Wi-Fiber or just ride Intel / WiMAX Forum's Marketing machine... Here's the thing, chances

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Peter R.
Tom DeReggi wrote: I've been plaqued by this problem, as my company name is... RapidDSL. It gets me the leads, but it also starts every sales call out with why I'm charging more than $50 a month for my service, that I generally get $150-$500 a month for. I'm seeing this company name as a

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Tom, Are you saying that you compare your wireless service to T1 telco service? How

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
basis. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Matt

RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread danlist
: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband We conducted a few focus groups here. Most of the attendees were in the 18-24 yr. age bracket. It was amazing how many

RE: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread danlist
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband Hi, If someone wants to setup whatever wireless network they would like to test and then let me know, I'll gladly

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
applications such as VOIP. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

Re: [WISPA] DSL vs. Wireless Broadband

2006-04-04 Thread Rick Smith
We find we can NOT sell our service as Wireless Broadband As soon as we market it to customers as DSL or just plain High Speed Internet, we start scoring. Too many in this area have been educated against Open WIFI being BAD... The cable we install to the radio is a line, right ? It carries