Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing
For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing
The EBS band consists of 4 6mhz chunks. 5% is around 1mhz. That's easily achievable I guess. I'm more concerned about rule #1. I can't see Clear providing Educational Services to these schools. I smell a loophole somewhere. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:17 PM, Brian Webster wrote: For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing
Isn't the Internet educational? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: The EBS band consists of 4 6mhz chunks. 5% is around 1mhz. That's easily achievable I guess. I'm more concerned about rule #1. I can't see Clear providing Educational Services to these schools. I smell a loophole somewhere. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:17 PM, Brian Webster wrote: For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing
I wonder if supplying them with an internet connection fulfills that obligation. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:30 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Isn't the Internet educational? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Eric Muehleisenericm...@gmail.com wrote: The EBS band consists of 4 6mhz chunks. 5% is around 1mhz. That's easily achievable I guess. I'm more concerned about rule #1. I can't see Clear providing Educational Services to these schools. I smell a loophole somewhere. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:17 PM, Brian Webster wrote: For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing
I've leaned alot. I mean, I never know there was such a thing as quadruple D's :-) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini [...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing Isn't the Internet educational? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: The EBS band consists of 4 6mhz chunks. 5% is around 1mhz. That's easily achievable I guess. I'm more concerned about rule #1. I can't see Clear providing Educational Services to these schools. I smell a loophole somewhere. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:17 PM, Brian Webster wrote: For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing
It certainly is. This week I learned to get my pants off the ground. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing Isn't the Internet educational? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: The EBS band consists of 4 6mhz chunks. 5% is around 1mhz. That's easily achievable I guess. I'm more concerned about rule #1. I can't see Clear providing Educational Services to these schools. I smell a loophole somewhere. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:17 PM, Brian Webster wrote: For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing
Or the cash equivlent? I can't wait to see what happens in...oh...6 years or so when these school boards renegotiate the 10 year subleases of this spectrum. Could be an interesting and lucrative time for those districts that are getting peanuts for rent of thier spectrum. ryan On Jan 21, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing
Heh, I used to be a technology coordinator for a k-12 school district. When I got there they had never used the Internet or email, or anything. After we got a fractional T1 in place (128kbps! WOOT!) I did some inservice training for some teachers. One of them started griping about how the internet was just the CB of the 90s, a place to find porn, where pornographers hung out etc... It took me about 10 minutes to calm down and inform this person and the other staff that it was very hard to use yahoo and unsuspectingly find porn.. and all of the screens faced the center of the room etc, etc, etc.. not a problem. So we all open yahoo and I ask the staffers to find curriculum specific information to help them with their lesson plans. The rabble rouser searched for a very curriculum appropriate black holes... Yeah... *sigh* I almost quit. ryan On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: I've leaned alot. I mean, I never know there was such a thing as quadruple D's :-) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini [...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing Isn't the Internet educational? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: The EBS band consists of 4 6mhz chunks. 5% is around 1mhz. That's easily achievable I guess. I'm more concerned about rule #1. I can't see Clear providing Educational Services to these schools. I smell a loophole somewhere. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:17 PM, Brian Webster wrote: For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
