Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-17 Thread Scottie Arnett
Yep, at the expense of the many for the benefit of the few, IMHO. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:32:10 -0500 Basically, except for a few viable

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-17 Thread RickG
Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL What brands did you test? Mainnet's worked as promised for us. No, it was not 500Mbps but 20

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-16 Thread RickG
] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL Chuck, It's as though you didnt read my post! BPL works - with acceptable interference - I saw it with my own eyes along with dozens of skeptical ham operators. Theory does

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-16 Thread RickG
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL One huge reason, powerlines are not constant impedance to RF. Nor are they balanced

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-16 Thread RickG
by the press. Which one of these are we talking about here? - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL Chuck, It's as though you didnt read my post! BPL

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
How about BPL to transport data to the ap's? marlon - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL I have a motel I am trying to cover with internet

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL Brian, I'd rather go with this from Motorola: http://www.motorola.com/Business/US-EN/Business+Product+and+Services/Private +Broadband+Networks Basically it's a DSL type system... reuse the CAT3 wiring in the building

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread RickG
To clarify, by real interference I meant they are no worse than anything else we deal with. Like any RF transmission, there are emmisions, but those can be dealt with just like the way we (WISP's) deal with them. The ARRL made a mountain out of molehill and it was all political as far as I'm

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread RickG
: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL I have a motel I am trying to cover with internet. It's a L shaped building 20-30 rooms. What type of bpl solutions would work for this? Or maybe wireless is the way to go. Brian

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
. Nothing more. On the secondary side it is nothing more than homeplug. That is viable and deployed and does just fine. - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread RickG
General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL To clarify, by real interference I meant they are no worse than anything else we deal with. Like any RF transmission, there are emmisions, but those can be dealt with just like the way

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
that is absolutely necessary in the event of an emergency. - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL I disagree. I personally saw BPL work and work very well. As far

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread RickG
valuable spectrum that is absolutely necessary in the event of an emergency. - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL I disagree. I personally saw BPL work

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
a HV system that works as advertised. - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL Chuck, It's as though you didnt read my post! BPL works - with acceptable

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL One huge reason, powerlines are not constant impedance to RF. Nor are they balanced. This is like trying to pump natural gas down the water lines. Pipe, right? What's the problem? It is never going to ever work as well as balanced

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL Chuck, It's as though you didnt read my post! BPL works - with acceptable interference - I saw it with my own eyes along with dozens of skeptical ham operators. Theory does not matter

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I have a motel I am trying to cover with internet. It's a L shaped building 20-30 rooms. What type of bpl solutions would work for this? Or maybe wireless is the way to go. Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread RickG
Wireless has it's obvious advantages but if you go the BPL route you can use the Motorola product. Just be sure your not going through mroe than one distribution panel. To be honest, depending on the wiring, you may be able to get through a couple of panels. -RickG On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:09

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Chuck McCown
I would put up an AP. - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL Wireless has it's obvious advantages but if you go the BPL route you can use the Motorola

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread 3-dB Networks
Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL I have a motel I am trying to cover with internet. It's a L shaped building 20-30 rooms. What type of bpl solutions would work for this? Or maybe wireless is the way to go. Brian

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL Is there and BPL solutions out there that WISPs could take advantage of yet? Maybe beam in some high speed and then go to the community or subdivision

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL I have a motel I am trying to cover with internet. It's a L shaped building 20-30 rooms. What type of bpl solutions would work for this? Or maybe wireless is the way to go. Brian WISPA

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread John Valenti
hi Brian, Just curious why you wouldn't go with a wired solution? Seems like a $200 switch and a box of Cat5 would be an easy fix. Suppose you would want to add some wifi support to it, also. (Open-Mesh, StarOS, or Mikrotik?) One item I picked up from the original media article was that

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread RickG
] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL Is there and BPL solutions out there that WISPs could take advantage of yet? Maybe beam in some high speed and then go to the community or subdivision

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
on it. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL I have a motel I am trying to cover with internet. It's a L shaped

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
You are correct, electric companies saw huge benefits for internal use but the real reason it did not move forward was because electric companies are conservative by nature and they didnt like the heat coming from the ARRL over interference issues, which btw were not real. The interference is

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-13 Thread Eje Gustafsson
- LinkTechs.net Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL Is there and BPL solutions out there that WISPs could take advantage of yet? Maybe beam in some high speed and then go to the community or subdivision

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-13 Thread RickG
. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL When I

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-13 Thread RickG
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL Is there and BPL solutions out there that WISPs could take advantage of yet? Maybe beam in some high speed

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-12 Thread RickG
When I was involved with BPL (back then known as PLC), all I ever heard was HAM radio interference. -RickG On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081112/tec_broadband_over_power_lines.html?.v=6 Jeff Broadwick Sales Manager, ImageStream