Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Marlon K. Schafer]

As I recall, I did check with them.  They didn't have anything specific. 
That's one of the reasons that we had to come up with a definition.
marlon

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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> We have an official definition of a wisp.  It was part of what we had to
>> define in order for a person/company to be a principal member.
>
> Without knowing what Jack's up to, I imagine the more important part
> would be "how does the FCC define a WISP." They probably have some big
> flowery thing that boils down to "someone that sends in 477, where more
> than X percent of their customers are in the fixed-wireless category." X
> is probably higher than 50%, but beyond that it's all guessing.
>
> Anyone know whether the FCC makes available a more complete breakdown of
> the 477 data, beyond the one really simple thirty-page report they put
> out twice a year? Data broken down by a state or even ZIP level.
> Something that will make Excel weep.
>
> David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[David E. Smith]

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> We have an official definition of a wisp.  It was part of what we had to 
> define in order for a person/company to be a principal member.

Without knowing what Jack's up to, I imagine the more important part 
would be "how does the FCC define a WISP." They probably have some big 
flowery thing that boils down to "someone that sends in 477, where more 
than X percent of their customers are in the fixed-wireless category." X 
is probably higher than 50%, but beyond that it's all guessing.

Anyone know whether the FCC makes available a more complete breakdown of 
the 477 data, beyond the one really simple thirty-page report they put 
out twice a year? Data broken down by a state or even ZIP level. 
Something that will make Excel weep.

David Smith
MVN.net



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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Marlon K. Schafer]

We have an official definition of a wisp.  It was part of what we had to 
define in order for a person/company to be a principal member.
marlon

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Jack, how are we supposed to know?
>
> The only way to find anything approaching an average is to get those 500
> responses and average them.
>
> And t hen you still gotta define what a WISP is.   Is it the guy who 
> covers
> an area the size of two city blocks and has backhauled in DSL from 3 miles
> away?Is it only the person who has hired help?"You're not a real
> WISP until you're large enough to have employees".Huh, that seems self
> defeating..  But anyway,  averaging our opinion of what is average... 
> In
> my opinion there is no "average" that represents what a WISP is.  They 
> range
> from that guy with his 4 neighbors to people who cover 10 thousand square
> miles, and both are exceptional, rather than the norm.   But yet to add 
> them
> together and average that...
>
> I just can't seem to form an opinion of what "average" should be.
>
> And I'm not trying to argue with you... I'm just wondering, even if we 
> could
> somehow tabulate all this with actual counts, would averaging give us any
> useful data...  If I were to offer a response, i'd say that WISP's average
> between 50 and 500 cpe.   And that still seems indefensible, really, as a
> number, even when given in a range...   It's just a WAG...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> 
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" ;
> "Motorola Canopy User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:48 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>
>
>> Guys and Gals,
>>
>> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on
>> the following question.
>>
>> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
>> independent WISP?"
>>
>> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you
>> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
>> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
>> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
>> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP
>> operation that you are familiar with.
>>
>> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
>> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
>> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
>> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>>
>> -- 
>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
>> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
>> Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
>> Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
>> FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger>
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Scottie Arnett]

If the WISP filed their for 477 truthfully, the FCC should already have an
idea of what the average is out of the WISPs that filed. Considering how
many do or don't file them, I am not sure how accurate their data will be.

Scott

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Jack, how are we supposed to know?

The only way to find anything approaching an average is to get those 500 
responses and average them.

And t hen you still gotta define what a WISP is.   Is it the guy who covers 
an area the size of two city blocks and has backhauled in DSL from 3 miles 
away?Is it only the person who has hired help?"You're not a real 
WISP until you're large enough to have employees".Huh, that seems self 
defeating..  But anyway,  averaging our opinion of what is average...In 
my opinion there is no "average" that represents what a WISP is.  They range

from that guy with his 4 neighbors to people who cover 10 thousand square 
miles, and both are exceptional, rather than the norm.   But yet to add them

together and average that...

I just can't seem to form an opinion of what "average" should be.

And I'm not trying to argue with you... I'm just wondering, even if we could

somehow tabulate all this with actual counts, would averaging give us any 
useful data...  If I were to offer a response, i'd say that WISP's average 
between 50 and 500 cpe.   And that still seems indefensible, really, as a 
number, even when given in a range...   It's just a WAG...









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From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" ; 
"Motorola Canopy User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Guys and Gals,
>
> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input 
> on the following question.
>
> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per 
> independent WISP?"
>
> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless 
> you believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent 
> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average" 
> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring 
> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of 
> WISP operation that you are familiar with.
>
> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't 
> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30 
> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is 
> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>
> --
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> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
> Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
> Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
> FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger>
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[reader]

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From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Something like 85% of the American population believes they're "middle
> class," regardless of how much money they're bringing in. I suspect this
> will be similarly skewed - I know how big my business is, and I think
> we're a fairly "average" WISP, so I'll guess that most WISPs are similar
> to the one that signs my paychecks.
>

Hey, wait a minute... I though, like Lake Woebegone, we were all above 
average... :)





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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[David E. Smith]

Jack Unger wrote:
> Once I have average CPE per WISP I can scale a percentage of those CPE 
> up to account for the total number of end-users taking into account some 
> CPE serve households, some serve businesses, some serve MDUs, etc. But I 
> have to start somewhere and that somewhere is average number of CPEs per 
> WISP. The end number of end-users will still be an estimate but at least 
> it will be an "educated" estimate.

Something like 85% of the American population believes they're "middle 
class," regardless of how much money they're bringing in. I suspect this 
will be similarly skewed - I know how big my business is, and I think 
we're a fairly "average" WISP, so I'll guess that most WISPs are similar 
to the one that signs my paychecks.

Anyway, shouldn't the FCC already have this sort of data? At least for 
WISPs that file Form 477 like they're supposed to, they can just add up 
the fixed-wireless numbers, divide by the number of WISPs that filed, 
and call it a day. Intuitively, I suspect the ones that don't file are 
the smaller ones that don't even know they're supposed to, so unless 
there are a LOT of those it won't skew the average too much.

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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[reader]

Jack, how are we supposed to know?

The only way to find anything approaching an average is to get those 500 
responses and average them.

And t hen you still gotta define what a WISP is.   Is it the guy who covers 
an area the size of two city blocks and has backhauled in DSL from 3 miles 
away?Is it only the person who has hired help?"You're not a real 
WISP until you're large enough to have employees".Huh, that seems self 
defeating..  But anyway,  averaging our opinion of what is average...In 
my opinion there is no "average" that represents what a WISP is.  They range 
from that guy with his 4 neighbors to people who cover 10 thousand square 
miles, and both are exceptional, rather than the norm.   But yet to add them 
together and average that...

I just can't seem to form an opinion of what "average" should be.

And I'm not trying to argue with you... I'm just wondering, even if we could 
somehow tabulate all this with actual counts, would averaging give us any 
useful data...  If I were to offer a response, i'd say that WISP's average 
between 50 and 500 cpe.   And that still seems indefensible, really, as a 
number, even when given in a range...   It's just a WAG...









- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" ; 
"Motorola Canopy User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Guys and Gals,
>
> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on
> the following question.
>
> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
> independent WISP?"
>
> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you
> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP
> operation that you are familiar with.
>
> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>
> -- 
> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
> Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
> Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
> FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile 
> Phone 818-227-4220  Email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Jack Unger]

Once I have average CPE per WISP I can scale a percentage of those CPE 
up to account for the total number of end-users taking into account some 
CPE serve households, some serve businesses, some serve MDUs, etc. But I 
have to start somewhere and that somewhere is average number of CPEs per 
WISP. The end number of end-users will still be an estimate but at least 
it will be an "educated" estimate.

Gino Villarini wrote:
> Good point, maybe circuits per WISP? 
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:44 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>
> just remember cpe count is not a reflection of customers served, unless
> talking about residential single family homes.
> Enabling business activity and commerce is just as valuable as getting
> residents served.
>
> I average 5 businesses per CPE currently, and have the ability to serve
> an average of 40 businesses per CPE.
> And average the abilty to serve 300 residents per CPE to residentail
> MTU.
>
> Keep that in mind, when talking CPE.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>
>
>   
>> Jack,
>>
>> I would guess the average WISP is 1000-2000 subscribers strong.  Mesa
>> Networks was at 7300, but I know that is way above average.
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
> On
>   
>> Behalf Of Jack Unger
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:49 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
>> Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>>
>> Guys and Gals,
>>
>> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input
>> 
> on
>   
>> the following question.
>>
>> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
>> independent WISP?"
>>
>> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless
>> 
> you
>   
>> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
>> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
>> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
>> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of
>> 
> WISP
>   
>> operation that you are familiar with.
>>
>> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
>> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
>> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
>> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>>
>> -- 
>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
>> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
>> Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
>> Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
>> FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile
>> 
> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger>
>   
>> Phone 818-227-4220  Email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Gino Villarini]

Good point, maybe circuits per WISP? 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

just remember cpe count is not a reflection of customers served, unless
talking about residential single family homes.
Enabling business activity and commerce is just as valuable as getting
residents served.

I average 5 businesses per CPE currently, and have the ability to serve
an average of 40 businesses per CPE.
And average the abilty to serve 300 residents per CPE to residentail
MTU.

Keep that in mind, when talking CPE.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Jack,
>
> I would guess the average WISP is 1000-2000 subscribers strong.  Mesa
> Networks was at 7300, but I know that is way above average.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Jack Unger
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
> Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>
> Guys and Gals,
>
> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input
on
> the following question.
>
> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
> independent WISP?"
>
> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless
you
> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of
WISP
> operation that you are familiar with.
>
> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>
> -- 
> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
> Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
> Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
> FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger>
> Phone 818-227-4220  Email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Tom DeReggi]

just remember cpe count is not a reflection of customers served, unless 
talking about residential single family homes.
Enabling business activity and commerce is just as valuable as getting 
residents served.

I average 5 businesses per CPE currently, and have the ability to serve an 
average of 40 businesses per CPE.
And average the abilty to serve 300 residents per CPE to residentail MTU.

Keep that in mind, when talking CPE.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Jack,
>
> I would guess the average WISP is 1000-2000 subscribers strong.  Mesa
> Networks was at 7300, but I know that is way above average.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jack Unger
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
> Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>
> Guys and Gals,
>
> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on
> the following question.
>
> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
> independent WISP?"
>
> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you
> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP
> operation that you are familiar with.
>
> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>
> -- 
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> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Mike Hammett]

I'd say the average WISP is close to 300 - 400.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" ; 
"Motorola Canopy User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Guys and Gals,
>
> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on
> the following question.
>
> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
> independent WISP?"
>
> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you
> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP
> operation that you are familiar with.
>
> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>
> -- 
> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
> Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
> Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
> FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile 
> Phone 818-227-4220  Email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Larry Yunker]

Because many WISPs operate as part-time or shoe-string type operations, I
would venture to say that the average WISP has less than 1000 CPE deployed.
 
On the other hand, if you were to ask the question in a different manner...
perhaps frame the question:

Of those WISPs that have at least one employee other than the owner, how
many CPE does the average WISP have?

Then I think the 1000-2000 CPE range is more accurate.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

Guys and Gals,

To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on 
the following question.

"In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per 
independent WISP?"

I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you 
believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent 
WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average" 
independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring 
to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP 
operation that you are familiar with.

I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't 
want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30 
replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is 
that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Respectfully,

jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)

-- 
Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile 
Phone 818-227-4220  Email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>







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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[3-dB Networks]

Jack,

I would guess the average WISP is 1000-2000 subscribers strong.  Mesa
Networks was at 7300, but I know that is way above average.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

Guys and Gals,

To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on 
the following question.

"In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per 
independent WISP?"

I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you 
believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent 
WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average" 
independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring 
to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP 
operation that you are familiar with.

I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't 
want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30 
replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is 
that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Respectfully,

jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)

-- 
Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile 
Phone 818-227-4220  Email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>







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