Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition LeavesU.S.16th Among IndustrializedNations
Not at all true Tom. We still have almost as many dialup users as we do broadband. And many of those dialup users CAN get access to broadband. Often at a rate below what they are spending on dialup. Don't ask me why the won't switch, I don't have an answer. But it's still a fact of life out here in the real world. People usually (I'd guess at least 50%) don't go broadband because they don't want/care about it. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition LeavesU.S.16th Among IndustrializedNations Peter, I do not agree with those statistics. Why would anyone prefer DialUp for the same price? Don't think so. A large part of that 68% are DialUp Users NOT by choice. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition Leaves U.S.16th Among IndustrializedNations Peter R. wrote: We are actually at the point where about 68% of the US population has Internet. The rest don't own a computer or do not want Internet. Some of that 68% is still on dial-up. For some it is a price thing. For some it is not understanding technology. For some it is to make the experience painful to avoid wasting hours on the internet. So dropping the price - as SBC and VZ have experienced - to sub-$15 gets you some dial-up conversions. But when the price returns to normal, some switch back to cheaper dial-up. The dilemma becomes How do you get more internet appliance (PC's, laptops, PDAs, internet terminal) penetration? The marketing question is: What Remarkable & Useful things can you do with broadband (other than entertainment)? That's my 2 cents. Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc. I agree with you, I still have a considerable amount of dial up subscribers. There needs to be a motivator, other than price, that makes these types of users decide to trade up. They have to want to. And I thought giant pictures killing their email would have done the trick by now :( George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition LeavesU.S.16th Among IndustrializedNations
I'll agree to agree:) It's happened to me about a half dozen times or so. People upgraded to broadband, but don't use it to much and when it's budget crunch time, they axe the broadband because it's just not important enough to them. All my downgrades are seniors with fixed incomes. One guy I just adjusted his rate to 20.00 and figured I'm charitable and he is my next door neighbor George Brad Belton wrote: Pretty sure Peter said: "But when the price returns to normal, some switch back to cheaper dial-up." I can believe this as many people are driven by price and price alone. Broadband isn't for everyone no more than bottled water is worth it to everyone. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition LeavesU.S.16th Among IndustrializedNations Peter, I do not agree with those statistics. Why would anyone prefer DialUp for the same price? Don't think so. A large part of that 68% are DialUp Users NOT by choice. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition Leaves U.S.16th Among IndustrializedNations Peter R. wrote: We are actually at the point where about 68% of the US population has Internet. The rest don't own a computer or do not want Internet. Some of that 68% is still on dial-up. For some it is a price thing. For some it is not understanding technology. For some it is to make the experience painful to avoid wasting hours on the internet. So dropping the price - as SBC and VZ have experienced - to sub-$15 gets you some dial-up conversions. But when the price returns to normal, some switch back to cheaper dial-up. The dilemma becomes How do you get more internet appliance (PC's, laptops, PDAs, internet terminal) penetration? The marketing question is: What Remarkable & Useful things can you do with broadband (other than entertainment)? That's my 2 cents. Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc. I agree with you, I still have a considerable amount of dial up subscribers. There needs to be a motivator, other than price, that makes these types of users decide to trade up. They have to want to. And I thought giant pictures killing their email would have done the trick by now :( George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Lack of Competition LeavesU.S.16th Among IndustrializedNations
Pretty sure Peter said: "But when the price returns to normal, some switch back to cheaper dial-up." I can believe this as many people are driven by price and price alone. Broadband isn't for everyone no more than bottled water is worth it to everyone. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition LeavesU.S.16th Among IndustrializedNations Peter, I do not agree with those statistics. Why would anyone prefer DialUp for the same price? Don't think so. A large part of that 68% are DialUp Users NOT by choice. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition Leaves U.S.16th Among IndustrializedNations > Peter R. wrote: >> We are actually at the point where about 68% of the US population has >> Internet. >> The rest don't own a computer or do not want Internet. >> >> Some of that 68% is still on dial-up. For some it is a price thing. For >> some it is not understanding technology. For some it is to make the >> experience painful to avoid wasting hours on the internet. >> >> So dropping the price - as SBC and VZ have experienced - to sub-$15 gets >> you some dial-up conversions. But when the price returns to normal, some >> switch back to cheaper dial-up. >> >> The dilemma becomes How do you get more internet appliance (PC's, >> laptops, PDAs, internet terminal) penetration? >> >> The marketing question is: What Remarkable & Useful things can you do >> with broadband (other than entertainment)? >> >> That's my 2 cents. >> >> Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc. >> > > I agree with you, I still have a considerable amount of dial up > subscribers. > > There needs to be a motivator, other than price, that makes these types of > users decide to trade up. They have to want to. > > And I thought giant pictures killing their email would have done the > trick by now :( > > George > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
