Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
Not to put Ligowave in the background but what about Mikrotik? I have been really happy with the 411ah + ARC mini-backhauls. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
Josh, What's your longest link with that setup and what's your throughput? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Not to put Ligowave in the background but what about Mikrotik? I have been really happy with the 411ah + ARC mini-backhauls. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
17 miles at 30MB on 20Mhz channel Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Josh, What's your longest link with that setup and what's your throughput? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Not to put Ligowave in the background but what about Mikrotik? I have been really happy with the 411ah + ARC mini-backhauls. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
We have looked at Mikrotik in the pass as an AP, but the learning curve is to steep for our volunteer organization. Phil On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Josh, What's your longest link with that setup and what's your throughput? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Not to put Ligowave in the background but what about Mikrotik? I have been really happy with the 411ah + ARC mini-backhauls. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
Several are right around 7 miles. Through put well exceeds what I need (3 megs tops) so I have never checked on it. Currently they're running 20mhz channels and the bandwidth test shows 15 megs aggregate. RSSI is -78 and it is running WDS (which eats bandwidth). These links were the Airmux's I tried replacing but I was having some screwy issues with them. After spending hours trying to fix it, we just swapped it with these ARC/411 kits we were using as CPEs. Unfortunately we didn't have any 411ah ones so the boards I am using are 411. I have one customer that wanted his own little slice of Internet and wanted this same setup (411 boards again as it's literally just one user, power user though he is). This link is at -65 but only at 4 miles and WDS again and can perform up to 25 megs. The 7 mile links have been trouble free since we put them up - 201 days. Maybe a bit more as I may have rebooted them for firmware updates between then and now. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Josh, What's your longest link with that setup and what's your throughput? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Not to put Ligowave in the background but what about Mikrotik? I have been really happy with the 411ah + ARC mini-backhauls. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
Not bad for the price of the equipment. What antenna are you putting that through? Have you tried any of the N cards in a backhaul yet? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Several are right around 7 miles. Through put well exceeds what I need (3 megs tops) so I have never checked on it. Currently they're running 20mhz channels and the bandwidth test shows 15 megs aggregate. RSSI is -78 and it is running WDS (which eats bandwidth). These links were the Airmux's I tried replacing but I was having some screwy issues with them. After spending hours trying to fix it, we just swapped it with these ARC/411 kits we were using as CPEs. Unfortunately we didn't have any 411ah ones so the boards I am using are 411. I have one customer that wanted his own little slice of Internet and wanted this same setup (411 boards again as it's literally just one user, power user though he is). This link is at -65 but only at 4 miles and WDS again and can perform up to 25 megs. The 7 mile links have been trouble free since we put them up - 201 days. Maybe a bit more as I may have rebooted them for firmware updates between then and now. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Josh, What's your longest link with that setup and what's your throughput? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Not to put Ligowave in the background but what about Mikrotik? I have been really happy with the 411ah + ARC mini-backhauls. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
ARC kits http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52eq= They LOOK LIKE this picture http://quicklinkwireless.com/mmQUICK/Images/KIT-58-23A-R52H.jpg Decent CPE devices too, though costly. The arm is a bit short so it can't turn all the way in 1/5 installs. Throw a pipe into the situation and you're set for life! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Not bad for the price of the equipment. What antenna are you putting that through? Have you tried any of the N cards in a backhaul yet? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Several are right around 7 miles. Through put well exceeds what I need (3 megs tops) so I have never checked on it. Currently they're running 20mhz channels and the bandwidth test shows 15 megs aggregate. RSSI is -78 and it is running WDS (which eats bandwidth). These links were the Airmux's I tried replacing but I was having some screwy issues with them. After spending hours trying to fix it, we just swapped it with these ARC/411 kits we were using as CPEs. Unfortunately we didn't have any 411ah ones so the boards I am using are 411. I have one customer that wanted his own little slice of Internet and wanted this same setup (411 boards again as it's literally just one user, power user though he is). This link is at -65 but only at 4 miles and WDS again and can perform up to 25 megs. The 7 mile links have been trouble free since we put them up - 201 days. Maybe a bit more as I may have rebooted them for firmware updates between then and now. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Josh, What's your longest link with that setup and what's your throughput? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Not to put Ligowave in the background but what about Mikrotik? I have been really happy with the 411ah + ARC mini-backhauls. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
On price...it probably can't be beaten. $400 bucks to move 15 to 30 megs is a nice feeling. On quality...30 megs per 20mhz of precious precious spectrum? MT uses cat5 up the tower so you can upgrade to AN80s later. Not sure about the Motorola PTP, Ligowave, etc products. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: ARC kits http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52eq= They LOOK LIKE this picture http://quicklinkwireless.com/mmQUICK/Images/KIT-58-23A-R52H.jpg Decent CPE devices too, though costly. The arm is a bit short so it can't turn all the way in 1/5 installs. Throw a pipe into the situation and you're set for life! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Not bad for the price of the equipment. What antenna are you putting that through? Have you tried any of the N cards in a backhaul yet? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Several are right around 7 miles. Through put well exceeds what I need (3 megs tops) so I have never checked on it. Currently they're running 20mhz channels and the bandwidth test shows 15 megs aggregate. RSSI is -78 and it is running WDS (which eats bandwidth). These links were the Airmux's I tried replacing but I was having some screwy issues with them. After spending hours trying to fix it, we just swapped it with these ARC/411 kits we were using as CPEs. Unfortunately we didn't have any 411ah ones so the boards I am using are 411. I have one customer that wanted his own little slice of Internet and wanted this same setup (411 boards again as it's literally just one user, power user though he is). This link is at -65 but only at 4 miles and WDS again and can perform up to 25 megs. The 7 mile links have been trouble free since we put them up - 201 days. Maybe a bit more as I may have rebooted them for firmware updates between then and now. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Josh, What's your longest link with that setup and what's your throughput? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Not to put Ligowave in the background but what about Mikrotik? I have been really happy with the 411ah + ARC mini-backhauls. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
You might want to check out the Radwin 2000 also... it's probably going to cost a bit more, but I have at least one customer that is ripping out Ligowave links and replacing them with Radwin... he claims to be doubling their throughput. I'd be happy to provide quotes offlist :-D Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
Is he Selling the ligo stuff? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:50 PM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: You might want to check out the Radwin 2000 also... it's probably going to cost a bit more, but I have at least one customer that is ripping out Ligowave links and replacing them with Radwin... he claims to be doubling their throughput. I'd be happy to provide quotes offlist :-D Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
Redeploying for customer point to point links for now... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul Is he Selling the ligo stuff? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:50 PM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: You might want to check out the Radwin 2000 also... it's probably going to cost a bit more, but I have at least one customer that is ripping out Ligowave links and replacing them with Radwin... he claims to be doubling their throughput. I'd be happy to provide quotes offlist :-D Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul We have been getting along with Tranzeo TR5a's on PTP, but with increasing traffic they have begun to bog down during peak usage. So we are looking for a reasonably price alternative with higher throughput and less jitter. Ligowave fits the price point along with the Tranzeo FDD's, but we have tried the FDD's in the past and weren't very impressed although they have put a higher power radio in them now. Our critical hops range from seven miles to less than two although we have some in the twelve to fourteen mile range as well so we are looking for something that performs well in a variety of situations. Sounds like you are pretty happy with the Ligowave. Phil On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul
Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
