RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
Can anyone else confirm/deny this? Thanks Chris I thought the issue was that the cards are mis marked. Marked back wards. The outside corner is actually antenna port A . Card says B George Anthony Will wrote: It looks like he is talking about the antenna ports on the mPCI card. There are generally two u.fl or some combo u.fl and sma, etc. He is stating that if you utilize the wrong port on the card then what is configured you will loss 20+db of signal. It also looks like the WLM54AG's have an issue where they loss some signal if you utilize the secondary port / b port on the card. FYI I have not used the WLM54AG card as of yet. Sticking with my old reliable cm9's and SR5's -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
Lonnie is correct, the corner port is marked AUX and assumed it was antenna B. I was connected to the port marked Main and was trying to use antenna A. All just backward. My original testing was at close ranges and the difference was not noticeable. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... We set our software to use antenna A which is the corner antenna connector on the CM9 and the WLM54G. The WLM54G calls that antenna the secondary, so we are accepting it as a mis-marked part, or marked for another application. We see no difference between A and B in terms of performance. Lonnie On 9/15/06, chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone else confirm/deny this? Thanks Chris I thought the issue was that the cards are mis marked. Marked back wards. The outside corner is actually antenna port A . Card says B George Anthony Will wrote: It looks like he is talking about the antenna ports on the mPCI card. There are generally two u.fl or some combo u.fl and sma, etc. He is stating that if you utilize the wrong port on the card then what is configured you will loss 20+db of signal. It also looks like the WLM54AG's have an issue where they loss some signal if you utilize the secondary port / b port on the card. FYI I have not used the WLM54AG card as of yet. Sticking with my old reliable cm9's and SR5's -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
Did you try both antenna ports? On the two that connected, were the signals 12 to 14dB lower on both sides of the link? -Hal __ Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 http://www.deliberant.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... This afternoon I removed the Prism card and installed MT on a WRAP and the WLM54G. I currently only have 4 customers on it and only 2 reconnected. Signals where 12 to 14 db weaker than the Prism. I decided after much frustration to put the CM-9 in its place. All the subs connected almost immediately with signals similar to the 200mW Prism. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... We are currently using both of the Compex cards you mention below with Wilibox software and are happy with the performance. Also, we have both of the cards in stock now. I think you will find the 54AG similar to the CM9 and the 54G has a little extra power to make it a bit further. The receive sensitivities are comparable. -Hal __ Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deliberant.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:38 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... I am looking to replace my current APs and have decided to move to Mikrotik but am not sure of the best choice for a radio. The ones I am contemplating are the CM-9, R52, or the WLM54G. I currently use CM-9s in 5.8 for my backhauls and so far have been satisfied. My current AP radios are 200mW Prism radios (2.4), so I was considering the WLM54G as a replacement. The concern with them is a lot of resellers are out of stock, plus I have heard a few people say they have had performance issues with them. Lastly I have seen the R52, seems similar to the CM-9. The only issue I have with it so far is there is no US distributor I have found. Might not be a great issue except for shipping and RMAs. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
Did not try the other port and the signals were lower on both ends. Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... Did you try both antenna ports? On the two that connected, were the signals 12 to 14dB lower on both sides of the link? -Hal __ Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 http://www.deliberant.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... This afternoon I removed the Prism card and installed MT on a WRAP and the WLM54G. I currently only have 4 customers on it and only 2 reconnected. Signals where 12 to 14 db weaker than the Prism. I decided after much frustration to put the CM-9 in its place. All the subs connected almost immediately with signals similar to the 200mW Prism. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... We are currently using both of the Compex cards you mention below with Wilibox software and are happy with the performance. Also, we have both of the cards in stock now. I think you will find the 54AG similar to the CM9 and the 54G has a little extra power to make it a bit further. The receive sensitivities are comparable. -Hal __ Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deliberant.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:38 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... I am looking to replace my current APs and have decided to move to Mikrotik but am not sure of the best choice for a radio. The ones I am contemplating are the CM-9, R52, or the WLM54G. I currently use CM-9s in 5.8 for my backhauls and so far have been satisfied. My current AP radios are 200mW Prism radios (2.4), so I was considering the WLM54G as a replacement. The concern with them is a lot of resellers are out of stock, plus I have heard a few people say they have had performance issues with them. Lastly I have seen the R52, seems similar to the CM-9. The only issue I have with it so far is there is no US distributor I have found. Might not be a great issue except for shipping and RMAs. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail
Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
After spending a lot of time working with a couple WLM54AG's, I know without a doubt that the main is different for a CM9 and the Compex radio. You can switch to the b port, but as best I can tell, you still have some loss as compared to using the main port. In auto, the difference between the two is around 12 db, manually chosen or forced to one port or the other, it appears to be well more than 20 db isolation between them. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... Did not try the other port and the signals were lower on both ends. Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... Did you try both antenna ports? On the two that connected, were the signals 12 to 14dB lower on both sides of the link? -Hal -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
I suppose this information would be meaningful if I had any idea what you were talking about. Can you maybe put your thoughts into language people can understand who do not have intimate knowledge of the product you are discussing? I would really like to know what the differences are between the two products but I cannot understand what you are talking about here. Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Scriv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: After spending a lot of time working with a couple WLM54AG's, I know without a doubt that the main is different for a CM9 and the Compex radio. You can switch to the b port, but as best I can tell, you still have some loss as compared to using the main port. In auto, the difference between the two is around 12 db, manually chosen or forced to one port or the other, it appears to be well more than 20 db isolation between them. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... Did not try the other port and the signals were lower on both ends. Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... Did you try both antenna ports? On the two that connected, were the signals 12 to 14dB lower on both sides of the link? -Hal -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
It looks like he is talking about the antenna ports on the mPCI card. There are generally two u.fl or some combo u.fl and sma, etc. He is stating that if you utilize the wrong port on the card then what is configured you will loss 20+db of signal. It also looks like the WLM54AG's have an issue where they loss some signal if you utilize the secondary port / b port on the card. FYI I have not used the WLM54AG card as of yet. Sticking with my old reliable cm9's and SR5's Anthony Will Broadband Corp. John Scrivner wrote: I suppose this information would be meaningful if I had any idea what you were talking about. Can you maybe put your thoughts into language people can understand who do not have intimate knowledge of the product you are discussing? I would really like to know what the differences are between the two products but I cannot understand what you are talking about here. Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Scriv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: After spending a lot of time working with a couple WLM54AG's, I know without a doubt that the main is different for a CM9 and the Compex radio. You can switch to the b port, but as best I can tell, you still have some loss as compared to using the main port. In auto, the difference between the two is around 12 db, manually chosen or forced to one port or the other, it appears to be well more than 20 db isolation between them. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... Did not try the other port and the signals were lower on both ends. Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... Did you try both antenna ports? On the two that connected, were the signals 12 to 14dB lower on both sides of the link? -Hal -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
I thought the issue was that the cards are mis marked. Marked back wards. The outside corner is actually antenna port A . Card says B George Anthony Will wrote: It looks like he is talking about the antenna ports on the mPCI card. There are generally two u.fl or some combo u.fl and sma, etc. He is stating that if you utilize the wrong port on the card then what is configured you will loss 20+db of signal. It also looks like the WLM54AG's have an issue where they loss some signal if you utilize the secondary port / b port on the card. FYI I have not used the WLM54AG card as of yet. Sticking with my old reliable cm9's and SR5's Anthony Will Broadband Corp. John Scrivner wrote: I suppose this information would be meaningful if I had any idea what you were talking about. Can you maybe put your thoughts into language people can understand who do not have intimate knowledge of the product you are discussing? I would really like to know what the differences are between the two products but I cannot understand what you are talking about here. Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Scriv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: After spending a lot of time working with a couple WLM54AG's, I know without a doubt that the main is different for a CM9 and the Compex radio. You can switch to the b port, but as best I can tell, you still have some loss as compared to using the main port. In auto, the difference between the two is around 12 db, manually chosen or forced to one port or the other, it appears to be well more than 20 db isolation between them. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... Did not try the other port and the signals were lower on both ends. Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... Did you try both antenna ports? On the two that connected, were the signals 12 to 14dB lower on both sides of the link? -Hal -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
I would say that it depends on the application. The CM9 and the R52 use different generation of Atheros chipset. The main difference between the 2 chipsets is the newer chipset requires slightly less power to run and if you are running the card in 10MHz or 5MHz modes it will only listern to that 10MHz or 5MHz whilst the older CM9 chipset will still listen to the whole 20MHz. If you are looking to replace a 200mw 2.4 card then both the CM9 and the R52 may leave some of your clients with a weak signal so the Atheros based 200mw cards would be the way to go. If you arent looking to use 10MHz or 5mhz then the CM9 is still a great choice however there are a couple of other next generation Atheros based cards out there. Cheers, P. Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd http://www.skyline-networks.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: 13 September 2006 16:38 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... I am looking to replace my current APs and have decided to move to Mikrotik but am not sure of the best choice for a radio. The ones I am contemplating are the CM-9, R52, or the WLM54G. I currently use CM-9s in 5.8 for my backhauls and so far have been satisfied. My current AP radios are 200mW Prism radios (2.4), so I was considering the WLM54G as a replacement. The concern with them is a lot of resellers are out of stock, plus I have heard a few people say they have had performance issues with them. Lastly I have seen the R52, seems similar to the CM-9. The only issue I have with it so far is there is no US distributor I have found. Might not be a great issue except for shipping and RMAs. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
Paul, What do you mean when you say the CM9 listens on the whole 20 MHz when set to 5 MHz mode? Lonnie On 9/13/06, Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say that it depends on the application. The CM9 and the R52 use different generation of Atheros chipset. The main difference between the 2 chipsets is the newer chipset requires slightly less power to run and if you are running the card in 10MHz or 5MHz modes it will only listern to that 10MHz or 5MHz whilst the older CM9 chipset will still listen to the whole 20MHz. If you are looking to replace a 200mw 2.4 card then both the CM9 and the R52 may leave some of your clients with a weak signal so the Atheros based 200mw cards would be the way to go. If you aren't looking to use 10MHz or 5mhz then the CM9 is still a great choice however there are a couple of other next generation Atheros based cards out there. Cheers, P. Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd http://www.skyline-networks.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: 13 September 2006 16:38 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... I am looking to replace my current APs and have decided to move to Mikrotik but am not sure of the best choice for a radio. The ones I am contemplating are the CM-9, R52, or the WLM54G. I currently use CM-9's in 5.8 for my backhauls and so far have been satisfied. My current AP radios are 200mW Prism radios (2.4), so I was considering the WLM54G as a replacement. The concern with them is a lot of resellers are out of stock, plus I have heard a few people say they have had performance issues with them. Lastly I have seen the R52, seems similar to the CM-9. The only issue I have with it so far is there is no US distributor I have found. Might not be a great issue except for shipping and RMA's. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
Can you get the advanced atheros features in MT to work with the WLM54G? Things like the 5/10Mhz channels and VAP? They are there on the the CM9, but not supported on the older atheros 5212 cards. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Paul Hendry wrote: I would say that it depends on the application. The CM9 and the R52 use different generation of Atheros chipset. The main difference between the 2 chipsets is the newer chipset requires slightly less power to run and if you are running the card in 10MHz or 5MHz modes it will only listern to that 10MHz or 5MHz whilst the older CM9 chipset will still listen to the whole 20MHz. If you are looking to replace a 200mw 2.4 card then both the CM9 and the R52 may leave some of your clients with a weak signal so the Atheros based 200mw cards would be the way to go. If you aren’t looking to use 10MHz or 5mhz then the CM9 is still a great choice however there are a couple of other next generation Atheros based cards out there. Cheers, P. Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd http://www.skyline-networks.com http://www.skyline-networks.com/ *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Mark McElvy *Sent:* 13 September 2006 16:38 *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... I am looking to replace my current APs and have decided to move to Mikrotik but am not sure of the best choice for a radio. The ones I am contemplating are the CM-9, R52, or the WLM54G. I currently use CM-9’s in 5.8 for my backhauls and so far have been satisfied. My current AP radios are 200mW Prism radios (2.4), so I was considering the WLM54G as a replacement. The concern with them is a lot of resellers are out of stock, plus I have heard a few people say they have had performance issues with them. Lastly I have seen the R52, seems similar to the CM-9. The only issue I have with it so far is there is no US distributor I have found. Might not be a great issue except for shipping and RMA’s. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. !DSPAM:16,45083106106781821219920! http://mail.shwisp.net/spam/dspam.cgi?template=historyuser=tetherowretrain=spamsignatureID=16,45083106106781821219920 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
The 4th gen Atheros cards although they are capable of transmitting at 5MHz, 10MHz, 20MHz and 40MHz they can only listen at 20MHz and 40MHz. The 6th gen cards however, can both transmit and listen at 5MHz, 10MHz, 20MHz and 40MHz. An example is that if a CM9 is set to 5GHz-5MHz with a cf of 5805 it will transmit from 5802.5MHz - 5807.5MHz but will listen on 5795MHz - 5815MHz which I would imagine could cause problems if you're also using any of the neighbouring 5MHz channels. This is my understanding and although I have read about this on various forums I have not tested the theory. Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler Sent: 13 September 2006 17:56 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... Paul, What do you mean when you say the CM9 listens on the whole 20 MHz when set to 5 MHz mode? Lonnie On 9/13/06, Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say that it depends on the application. The CM9 and the R52 use different generation of Atheros chipset. The main difference between the 2 chipsets is the newer chipset requires slightly less power to run and if you are running the card in 10MHz or 5MHz modes it will only listern to that 10MHz or 5MHz whilst the older CM9 chipset will still listen to the whole 20MHz. If you are looking to replace a 200mw 2.4 card then both the CM9 and the R52 may leave some of your clients with a weak signal so the Atheros based 200mw cards would be the way to go. If you aren't looking to use 10MHz or 5mhz then the CM9 is still a great choice however there are a couple of other next generation Atheros based cards out there. Cheers, P. Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd http://www.skyline-networks.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: 13 September 2006 16:38 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... I am looking to replace my current APs and have decided to move to Mikrotik but am not sure of the best choice for a radio. The ones I am contemplating are the CM-9, R52, or the WLM54G. I currently use CM-9's in 5.8 for my backhauls and so far have been satisfied. My current AP radios are 200mW Prism radios (2.4), so I was considering the WLM54G as a replacement. The concern with them is a lot of resellers are out of stock, plus I have heard a few people say they have had performance issues with them. Lastly I have seen the R52, seems similar to the CM-9. The only issue I have with it so far is there is no US distributor I have found. Might not be a great issue except for shipping and RMA's. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12/09/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
We are currently using both of the Compex cards you mention below with Wilibox software and are happy with the performance. Also, we have both of the cards in stock now. I think you will find the 54AG similar to the CM9 and the 54G has a little extra power to make it a bit further. The receive sensitivities are comparable. -Hal __ Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deliberant.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:38 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... I am looking to replace my current APs and have decided to move to Mikrotik but am not sure of the best choice for a radio. The ones I am contemplating are the CM-9, R52, or the WLM54G. I currently use CM-9s in 5.8 for my backhauls and so far have been satisfied. My current AP radios are 200mW Prism radios (2.4), so I was considering the WLM54G as a replacement. The concern with them is a lot of resellers are out of stock, plus I have heard a few people say they have had performance issues with them. Lastly I have seen the R52, seems similar to the CM-9. The only issue I have with it so far is there is no US distributor I have found. Might not be a great issue except for shipping and RMAs. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation...
This afternoon I removed the Prism card and installed MT on a WRAP and the WLM54G. I currently only have 4 customers on it and only 2 reconnected. Signals where 12 to 14 db weaker than the Prism. I decided after much frustration to put the CM-9 in its place. All the subs connected almost immediately with signals similar to the 200mW Prism. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... We are currently using both of the Compex cards you mention below with Wilibox software and are happy with the performance. Also, we have both of the cards in stock now. I think you will find the 54AG similar to the CM9 and the 54G has a little extra power to make it a bit further. The receive sensitivities are comparable. -Hal __ Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deliberant.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:38 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] MiniPCI wireless card recommendation... I am looking to replace my current APs and have decided to move to Mikrotik but am not sure of the best choice for a radio. The ones I am contemplating are the CM-9, R52, or the WLM54G. I currently use CM-9s in 5.8 for my backhauls and so far have been satisfied. My current AP radios are 200mW Prism radios (2.4), so I was considering the WLM54G as a replacement. The concern with them is a lot of resellers are out of stock, plus I have heard a few people say they have had performance issues with them. Lastly I have seen the R52, seems similar to the CM-9. The only issue I have with it so far is there is no US distributor I have found. Might not be a great issue except for shipping and RMAs. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
