Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-05-03 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
So, in the patrol cars what is recommended? (700Mhz? / 900Mhz?)

Patrick Nix, Jr.,
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CSWEB.NET Internet Services
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ralph
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

4.9 performs just like 5.2 and 5.8. 
There is no NLOS.  I have deployed a lot of it for PD surveillance cameras.
The noise floor is low, but I still have links that just will refuse to
work.
And there are only 2 non overlapping channels unless you squeeze your
bandwidth.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

How does 4.9 perform in nLOS?  Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti
SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO

Patrick Nix, Jr.,
Computer Network Solutions
CSWEB.NET Internet Services
IT Manager
http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
http://www.csweb.net
(918) 235-0414
 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for
when they get new laptops.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Yep, that's what I tried to do.  If the laptop is to be stationary in the
 vehicle it wouldn't be an issue.  But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd
 probably need the express card instead.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
 a different external connector with a different antenna?

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with
the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an
SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending
 on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with
the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a
MMCX
 connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires
 though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an
 SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a
 big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is
 that
 it's cheaper to go

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-05-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Alvarion 900mhz for NLOS. Only thing that works worth a darn if your going
through trees plus the AP's support handoff's between towers.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

So, in the patrol cars what is recommended? (700Mhz? / 900Mhz?)

Patrick Nix, Jr.,
Computer Network Solutions
CSWEB.NET Internet Services
IT Manager
http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
http://www.csweb.net
(918) 235-0414
 

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

4.9 performs just like 5.2 and 5.8. 
There is no NLOS.  I have deployed a lot of it for PD surveillance cameras.
The noise floor is low, but I still have links that just will refuse to
work.
And there are only 2 non overlapping channels unless you squeeze your
bandwidth.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

How does 4.9 perform in nLOS?  Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti
SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO

Patrick Nix, Jr.,
Computer Network Solutions
CSWEB.NET Internet Services
IT Manager
http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
http://www.csweb.net
(918) 235-0414
 

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for
when they get new laptops.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Yep, that's what I tried to do.  If the laptop is to be stationary in the
 vehicle it wouldn't be an issue.  But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd
 probably need the express card instead.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
 a different external connector with a different antenna?

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with
the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an
SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending
 on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with
the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-05-03 Thread RickG
Used Alvarion 900MHz for a year up in the land of the trees, southern
Michigan - hated it! After I left that venture, they switched it all
out for Trango 900 for another year or so. I think they switched to
Canopy 900 after that. Not sure of those results.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
 Alvarion 900mhz for NLOS. Only thing that works worth a darn if your going
 through trees plus the AP's support handoff's between towers.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 So, in the patrol cars what is recommended? (700Mhz? / 900Mhz?)

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Ralph
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:30 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 4.9 performs just like 5.2 and 5.8.
 There is no NLOS.  I have deployed a lot of it for PD surveillance cameras.
 The noise floor is low, but I still have links that just will refuse to
 work.
 And there are only 2 non overlapping channels unless you squeeze your
 bandwidth.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 How does 4.9 perform in nLOS?  Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti
 SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for
 when they get new laptops.

 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Yep, that's what I tried to do.  If the laptop is to be stationary in the
 vehicle it wouldn't be an issue.  But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd
 probably need the express card instead.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
 a different external connector with a different antenna?

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with
 the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an
 SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending
 on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with
 the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-05-03 Thread Jon Auer
I've used Canopy 900Mhz while mobile before.
It hopped between towers quickly enough that I'd only loose a few pings

From what I've heard of Butch's Mikrotik setup, it sounds really
nifty. IIRC he used two wifi cards. One would be the data connection
and the other would look for a better connection and they would switch
roles as the vehicle travled.
Totally blew my mind that you could script up Mikrotik to do that.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:39 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 Used Alvarion 900MHz for a year up in the land of the trees, southern
 Michigan - hated it! After I left that venture, they switched it all
 out for Trango 900 for another year or so. I think they switched to
 Canopy 900 after that. Not sure of those results.

 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
 Alvarion 900mhz for NLOS. Only thing that works worth a darn if your going
 through trees plus the AP's support handoff's between towers.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 So, in the patrol cars what is recommended? (700Mhz? / 900Mhz?)

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Ralph
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:30 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 4.9 performs just like 5.2 and 5.8.
 There is no NLOS.  I have deployed a lot of it for PD surveillance cameras.
 The noise floor is low, but I still have links that just will refuse to
 work.
 And there are only 2 non overlapping channels unless you squeeze your
 bandwidth.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 How does 4.9 perform in nLOS?  Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti
 SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for
 when they get new laptops.

 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Yep, that's what I tried to do.  If the laptop is to be stationary in the
 vehicle it wouldn't be an issue.  But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd
 probably need the express card instead.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
 a different external connector with a different antenna?

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with
 the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an
 SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending
 on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with
 the
 internal antenna to a cheap

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread RickG
Its true. The IT guy said all they do is complain about Sprint.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 They may do that anyway. I have been dealing with different aspects of
 law enforcement for years and it seems like they are never happy. Then
 you have the officers that will not want the stuff in their cars to
 start with. Somehow that will be your fault to.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:09 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
  wrote:
 Yep!  Had one for over a year or so.  Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config.  The new laptops are the express
 card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot.  Have to break out the
 old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen.  Gets in the way.  I did, however,
 use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to
 a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card.  worked darned well.  lots of
 wires though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops
 to an SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to
 put a big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna.  The
 bonus is that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small
 town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
 wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
So is the general consensus to use 2.4Ghz instead of 4.9Ghz?

Patrick Nix, Jr.,
Computer Network Solutions
CSWEB.NET Internet Services
IT Manager
http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
http://www.csweb.net
(918) 235-0414
 

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
a different external connector with a different antenna?

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an
 SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a
 big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is
 that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
What about the SR4C and what AP would be best suited to pair with it?

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Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:59 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

So is the general consensus to use 2.4Ghz instead of 4.9Ghz?

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Of RickG
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
a different external connector with a different antenna?

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an
 SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a
 big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is
 that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Robert West
Yep, that's what I tried to do.  If the laptop is to be stationary in the
vehicle it wouldn't be an issue.  But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd
probably need the express card instead.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
a different external connector with a different antenna?

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending
on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires
though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an
 SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a
 big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is
 that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this?
http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Jeremie Chism
 From what I have seen 4.9 mobile is very expensive. It's been a few  
years since I prices it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com 
  wrote:

 So is the general consensus to use 2.4Ghz instead of 4.9Ghz?

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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 please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e- 
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 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
 a different external connector with a different antenna?

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble  
 with the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the  
 mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install  
 an SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.   
 Depending on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing  
 this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just  
 with the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small  
 town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont  
 tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
 
 wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express  
 card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the  
 old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however,  
 use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to  
 a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires  
 though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops  
 to an
 SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to  
 put a
 big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The  
 bonus is
 that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small  
 town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works  
 day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
 wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice  
 to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We've got some pretty cool MT radios set up for this.

Mag Mount Mobile Mark antennas with lmr240 pig tails.

Butch did the rest for us.  As far as I know it works really well and 
required NO new infrastructure on our side.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:16 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for mobile 
broadband in 7 police units.  Would anyone that has successfully completed 
such a project mind giving us some advice to start.

Thanks

Patrick Nix, Jr.,
Computer Network Solutions
CSWEB.NET Internet Services
IT Manager
http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
http://www.csweb.net
(918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
The patrol cars using our network use cisco cards with two rubber duckies and 
two Hawking amps. The antennas are installed on either end of a 2h x 3 d x 
4w plastic kit enclosure sitting on the dash. They can go 60mph down the 
boulevard and not lose a packet.

While this works, I would not have done it this way. I would have used a 
magenetic rooftop antenna with an amp (to deal with the cable loss) and made 
the car function as a mobile WDS access point.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 6:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
a different external connector with a different antenna?

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an
 SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a
 big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is
 that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Steve Barnes
I have a question along this line (kind of)  I am wanting to do this as well 
but our town is VERY full of lots of Trees.  I am 100% MT AP's.  Does the MT 
Mesh work does others use it for this kind of thing?

Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 12:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

The patrol cars using our network use cisco cards with two rubber duckies and 
two Hawking amps. The antennas are installed on either end of a 2h x 3 d x 
4w plastic kit enclosure sitting on the dash. They can go 60mph down the 
boulevard and not lose a packet.

While this works, I would not have done it this way. I would have used a 
magenetic rooftop antenna with an amp (to deal with the cable loss) and made 
the car function as a mobile WDS access point.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 6:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
a different external connector with a different antenna?

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an
 SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a
 big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is
 that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


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 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread RickG
They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for
when they get new laptops.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Yep, that's what I tried to do.  If the laptop is to be stationary in the
 vehicle it wouldn't be an issue.  But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd
 probably need the express card instead.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
 a different external connector with a different antenna?

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending
 on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires
 though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an
 SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a
 big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is
 that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this?
 http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
How does 4.9 perform in nLOS?  Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti SR4 
or Dbii f50-PRO

Patrick Nix, Jr.,
Computer Network Solutions
CSWEB.NET Internet Services
IT Manager
http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
http://www.csweb.net
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for
when they get new laptops.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Yep, that's what I tried to do.  If the laptop is to be stationary in the
 vehicle it wouldn't be an issue.  But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd
 probably need the express card instead.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
 a different external connector with a different antenna?

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending
 on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires
 though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an
 SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a
 big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is
 that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this?
 http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential
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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Ralph
4.9 performs just like 5.2 and 5.8. 
There is no NLOS.  I have deployed a lot of it for PD surveillance cameras.
The noise floor is low, but I still have links that just will refuse to
work.
And there are only 2 non overlapping channels unless you squeeze your
bandwidth.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

How does 4.9 perform in nLOS?  Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti
SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO

Patrick Nix, Jr.,
Computer Network Solutions
CSWEB.NET Internet Services
IT Manager
http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
http://www.csweb.net
(918) 235-0414
 

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for
when they get new laptops.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Yep, that's what I tried to do.  If the laptop is to be stationary in the
 vehicle it wouldn't be an issue.  But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd
 probably need the express card instead.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

 Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use
 a different external connector with a different antenna?

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with
the
 antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup.
 Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess
 totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an
SMA
 connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending
 on
 AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a
 laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with
the
 internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

 Bob-




 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a
MMCX
 connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires
 though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an
 SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a
 big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is
 that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this?
 http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-29 Thread Robert West
I think Butch Evans would be to Guru you're looking for.

www.butchevans.com

He's magical.





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for mobile
broadband in 7 police units.  Would anyone that has successfully completed
such a project mind giving us some advice to start.

Thanks

Patrick Nix, Jr.,
Computer Network Solutions
CSWEB.NET Internet Services
IT Manager
http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
http://www.csweb.net
(918) 235-0414
 

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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-29 Thread Jeremie Chism
I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over  
multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day  
in and day out.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com 
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for  
 mobile broadband in 7 police units.  Would anyone that has  
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to  
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-29 Thread Robert West
Yep!  Had one for over a year or so.  Love it, never use it

And here is why..

It's the older PCMCIA slot config.  The new laptops are the express card. 
My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot.  Have to break out the old 
Toshiba to use the thing

The antenna clips to the screen.  Gets in the way.  I did, however, use to 
use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX 
connector to snap into the card.  worked darned well.  lots of wires though.

What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an SMA 
conector I installed in the laptop.

Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a big 
antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna.  The bonus is that 
it's cheaper to go that route.

So it sits in the toolbox.

Bob-


- Original Message - 
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src
-RickG

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr 
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-29 Thread RickG
I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
feather for poor relaibility!

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Yep!  Had one for over a year or so.  Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config.  The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot.  Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen.  Gets in the way.  I did, however, use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card.  worked darned well.  lots of wires though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna.  The bonus is that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-29 Thread Robert West
I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the 
antenna and cable hanging off the thing.  It really IS a messy setup. 
Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess 
totally goes away.  If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA 
connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card.  Depending on 
AP placememt, it should talk to them fine.  I'm actually typing this on a 
laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the 
internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house.

Bob-




- Original Message - 
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
feather for poor relaibility!

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
wrote:
 Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an 
 SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a 
 big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is 
 that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


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 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
  wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-29 Thread Jeremie Chism
They may do that anyway. I have been dealing with different aspects of  
law enforcement for years and it seems like they are never happy. Then  
you have the officers that will not want the stuff in their cars to  
start with. Somehow that will be your fault to.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:09 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
  wrote:
 Yep!  Had one for over a year or so.  Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config.  The new laptops are the express  
 card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot.  Have to break out the  
 old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen.  Gets in the way.  I did, however,  
 use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to  
 a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card.  worked darned well.  lots of  
 wires though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops  
 to an SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to  
 put a big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna.  The  
 bonus is that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small  
 town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
 wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-29 Thread Robert West
I've never had law enforcement happy with me so that's nothing new.  But 
ever since I've joined the Presidents Club at my local bail bondsman, it's 
all good.

Every tenth bail is free.

Bob-


- Original Message - 
From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 They may do that anyway. I have been dealing with different aspects of
 law enforcement for years and it seems like they are never happy. Then
 you have the officers that will not want the stuff in their cars to
 start with. Somehow that will be your fault to.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:09 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
  wrote:
 Yep!  Had one for over a year or so.  Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config.  The new laptops are the express
 card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot.  Have to break out the
 old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen.  Gets in the way.  I did, however,
 use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to
 a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card.  worked darned well.  lots of
 wires though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops
 to an SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to
 put a big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna.  The
 bonus is that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small
 town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? 
 http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
 wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-29 Thread Jason Bailey
like!

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:


From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 10:42 PM


I've never had law enforcement happy with me so that's nothing new.  But 
ever since I've joined the Presidents Club at my local bail bondsman, it's 
all good.

Every tenth bail is free.

Bob-


- Original Message - 
From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)


 They may do that anyway. I have been dealing with different aspects of
 law enforcement for years and it seems like they are never happy. Then
 you have the officers that will not want the stuff in their cars to
 start with. Somehow that will be your fault to.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:09 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to
 poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put
 AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar 
 feather for poor relaibility!

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
  wrote:
 Yep!  Had one for over a year or so.  Love it, never use it

 And here is why..

 It's the older PCMCIA slot config.  The new laptops are the express
 card.
 My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot.  Have to break out the
 old
 Toshiba to use the thing

 The antenna clips to the screen.  Gets in the way.  I did, however,
 use to
 use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to
 a MMCX
 connector to snap into the card.  worked darned well.  lots of
 wires though.

 What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops
 to an SMA
 conector I installed in the laptop.

 Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to
 put a big
 antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna.  The
 bonus is that
 it's cheaper to go that route.

 So it sits in the toolbox.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small
 town)


 Has or does anyone use the Ubiquiti solution for this? 
 http://ubnt.com/src
 -RickG

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I have 100 police car deployment using alvarion that roams over
 multiple towers with static IP addresses. Expensive but it works day
 in and day out.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr
 pni...@cnetworksolutions.com
 wrote:

 We are working on a project for a small town in rural Oklahoma for
 mobile broadband in 7 police units. Would anyone that has
 successfully completed such a project mind giving us some advice to
 start.

 Thanks

 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
 Computer Network Solutions
 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
 IT Manager
 http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
 http://www.csweb.net
 (918) 235-0414


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