RE: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

2006-12-06 Thread Brad Belton
You're asking for a pretty tall order unless there is a new frequency band
and/or product newly available I'm unaware of.

28 miles reliably (relative term) can probably only be obtained with 6GHz,
but 6GHz requires a minimum 6' antenna per FCC rules.  You might be able to
get an exception to the antenna size depending on the location of the link.


What level of service are you trying to achieve?  

Best,

Brad


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Subject: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

Hi all,

I have a consulting client that needs to do a 28 mile shot in licensed 
with throughput of up to 45meg.  I am looking for any recommendations 
for something that is relatively inexpensive ($15,000 or less) and would 
require no larger than 4 foot dishes.

Any sales droids out there, feel free to hit me offlist.  This would be 
the first of ten or so of these links that would need to be deployed.

Thanks!

Matt Larsen
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RE: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

2006-12-06 Thread Charles Wu
Brad,

Distance is all dependent on rain zone (and in more arrid climates, like
Colorado, higher frequencies may perform better due to better multipathing
properties) -- ask Travis J -- he's got 18 GHz doing 15+ miles w/ awesome
reliability (keep in mind, Pocatello, ID is basically a desert from a rain
zone planning perspective)

-Charles

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You're asking for a pretty tall order unless there is a new frequency band
and/or product newly available I'm unaware of.

28 miles reliably (relative term) can probably only be obtained with 6GHz,
but 6GHz requires a minimum 6' antenna per FCC rules.  You might be able to
get an exception to the antenna size depending on the location of the link.


What level of service are you trying to achieve?  

Best,

Brad


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Subject: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

Hi all,

I have a consulting client that needs to do a 28 mile shot in licensed 
with throughput of up to 45meg.  I am looking for any recommendations 
for something that is relatively inexpensive ($15,000 or less) and would 
require no larger than 4 foot dishes.

Any sales droids out there, feel free to hit me offlist.  This would be 
the first of ten or so of these links that would need to be deployed.

Thanks!

Matt Larsen
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RE: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

2006-12-06 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Charles,

Yes, we all envy Travis's rain zone!  No question about that.  grin

What region is Matt looking for a 28mile link?  

Best,


Brad


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Brad,

Distance is all dependent on rain zone (and in more arrid climates, like
Colorado, higher frequencies may perform better due to better multipathing
properties) -- ask Travis J -- he's got 18 GHz doing 15+ miles w/ awesome
reliability (keep in mind, Pocatello, ID is basically a desert from a rain
zone planning perspective)

-Charles

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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link


You're asking for a pretty tall order unless there is a new frequency band
and/or product newly available I'm unaware of.

28 miles reliably (relative term) can probably only be obtained with 6GHz,
but 6GHz requires a minimum 6' antenna per FCC rules.  You might be able to
get an exception to the antenna size depending on the location of the link.


What level of service are you trying to achieve?  

Best,

Brad


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Subject: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

Hi all,

I have a consulting client that needs to do a 28 mile shot in licensed 
with throughput of up to 45meg.  I am looking for any recommendations 
for something that is relatively inexpensive ($15,000 or less) and would 
require no larger than 4 foot dishes.

Any sales droids out there, feel free to hit me offlist.  This would be 
the first of ten or so of these links that would need to be deployed.

Thanks!

Matt Larsen
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Re: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

2006-12-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

I don't think what you want to do is possible Matt.

28 miles is a long way for many bands.  Some of them might do it just fine 
in perfect weather...


6 gig would be a no brainier for this but you have to use 6' dishes.  And I 
don't know that you'll find anything in your price range.


If you want a ds3 38 gig link I've got one sitting in my office though.  2 
or 3 miles is all it'll be good for though :-).


laters,
Marlon
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Hi Matt,

We'll be in touch

-Charles --- Sales Droid =/

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Subject: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link


Hi all,

I have a consulting client that needs to do a 28 mile shot in licensed
with throughput of up to 45meg.  I am looking for any recommendations
for something that is relatively inexpensive ($15,000 or less) and would
require no larger than 4 foot dishes.

Any sales droids out there, feel free to hit me offlist.  This would be
the first of ten or so of these links that would need to be deployed.

Thanks!

Matt Larsen
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Re: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

2006-12-06 Thread Travis Johnson

Charles,

It's actually 19 miles @ 18ghz with 4ft dishes. In 4 years, 100% uptime. ;)

Travis
Microserv

Charles Wu wrote:

Brad,

Distance is all dependent on rain zone (and in more arrid climates, like
Colorado, higher frequencies may perform better due to better multipathing
properties) -- ask Travis J -- he's got 18 GHz doing 15+ miles w/ awesome
reliability (keep in mind, Pocatello, ID is basically a desert from a rain
zone planning perspective)

-Charles

---
WiNOG Wireless Roadshows
Coming to a City Near You
http://www.winog.com 




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Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:41 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link


You're asking for a pretty tall order unless there is a new frequency band
and/or product newly available I'm unaware of.

28 miles reliably (relative term) can probably only be obtained with 6GHz,
but 6GHz requires a minimum 6' antenna per FCC rules.  You might be able to
get an exception to the antenna size depending on the location of the link.


What level of service are you trying to achieve?  


Best,

Brad


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Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:00 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

Hi all,

I have a consulting client that needs to do a 28 mile shot in licensed 
with throughput of up to 45meg.  I am looking for any recommendations 
for something that is relatively inexpensive ($15,000 or less) and would 
require no larger than 4 foot dishes.


Any sales droids out there, feel free to hit me offlist.  This would be 
the first of ten or so of these links that would need to be deployed.


Thanks!

Matt Larsen
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RE: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

2006-12-06 Thread Gino A. Villarini
I think Matt needs to go 5.8 ghz, A Orthogon Spectra or similar

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I don't think what you want to do is possible Matt.

28 miles is a long way for many bands.  Some of them might do it just fine 
in perfect weather...

6 gig would be a no brainier for this but you have to use 6' dishes.  And I 
don't know that you'll find anything in your price range.

If you want a ds3 38 gig link I've got one sitting in my office though.  2 
or 3 miles is all it'll be good for though :-).

laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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 Hi Matt,

 We'll be in touch

 -Charles --- Sales Droid =/

 ---
 WiNOG Wireless Roadshows
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 http://www.winog.com



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 Subject: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link


 Hi all,

 I have a consulting client that needs to do a 28 mile shot in licensed
 with throughput of up to 45meg.  I am looking for any recommendations
 for something that is relatively inexpensive ($15,000 or less) and would
 require no larger than 4 foot dishes.

 Any sales droids out there, feel free to hit me offlist.  This would be
 the first of ten or so of these links that would need to be deployed.

 Thanks!

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Re: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

2006-12-06 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists

There is a lot of 5.8 in the area - I'd prefer to avoid it if possible.

Matt Larsen
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Gino A. Villarini wrote:

I think Matt needs to go 5.8 ghz, A Orthogon Spectra or similar

Gino A. Villarini
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I don't think what you want to do is possible Matt.

28 miles is a long way for many bands.  Some of them might do it just fine 
in perfect weather...


6 gig would be a no brainier for this but you have to use 6' dishes.  And I 
don't know that you'll find anything in your price range.


If you want a ds3 38 gig link I've got one sitting in my office though.  2 
or 3 miles is all it'll be good for though :-).


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Hi Matt,

We'll be in touch

-Charles --- Sales Droid =/

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Subject: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link


Hi all,

I have a consulting client that needs to do a 28 mile shot in licensed
with throughput of up to 45meg.  I am looking for any recommendations
for something that is relatively inexpensive ($15,000 or less) and would
require no larger than 4 foot dishes.

Any sales droids out there, feel free to hit me offlist.  This would be
the first of ten or so of these links that would need to be deployed.

Thanks!

Matt Larsen
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RE: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

2006-12-06 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Matt

A Orthogon Spectra will provide 111 Mbps in a 28 mile link using 4 ft dishes
on both ends , that's factoring a -75 db noise floor.  99.77% uptime.

And you have the advantage of a really intelligent radio that will work
around interference...

Gino A. Villarini
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There is a lot of 5.8 in the area - I'd prefer to avoid it if possible.

Matt Larsen
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Gino A. Villarini wrote:
 I think Matt needs to go 5.8 ghz, A Orthogon Spectra or similar

 Gino A. Villarini
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 Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:24 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

 I don't think what you want to do is possible Matt.

 28 miles is a long way for many bands.  Some of them might do it just fine

 in perfect weather...

 6 gig would be a no brainier for this but you have to use 6' dishes.  And
I 
 don't know that you'll find anything in your price range.

 If you want a ds3 38 gig link I've got one sitting in my office though.  2

 or 3 miles is all it'll be good for though :-).

 laters,
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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 Hi Matt,

 We'll be in touch

 -Charles --- Sales Droid =/

 ---
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 Hi all,

 I have a consulting client that needs to do a 28 mile shot in licensed
 with throughput of up to 45meg.  I am looking for any recommendations
 for something that is relatively inexpensive ($15,000 or less) and would
 require no larger than 4 foot dishes.

 Any sales droids out there, feel free to hit me offlist.  This would be
 the first of ten or so of these links that would need to be deployed.

 Thanks!

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