Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-13 Thread St. Louis Broadband
I hope someone is in their ear saying that they need to also take into
consideration PTP wireless for backhaul.  I have written my Senators.
Victoria
St. Louis Broadband

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 Its what happens when polititions make technical decissions on soemthing
 they no nothing about.
 Most legislators don't realize the implications of the text that was
 written. But the lobby group that suggested the text certainly did.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


  
  The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.
 
  AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not
 
  eligible under the amended Sentate bill
 
  That is crazy. What is crazier is the other technologies they are
  suggesting...Powerline and PtMP and 100 megs...humm.
  On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Tom DeReggi
  wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:
 
  That text is wrong, it is from the old House bill.
 
  The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.
  AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not
  eligible under the amended Sentate bill.
 
  Tom DeReggi
  RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:49 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions
 
 
  I don't know if this will be revised before it is voted on, but it
  appears
   that it needs to be corrected:
   In Title VI - BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS (pg 661-662)
  
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/senate-stimulus-bill-full_n_163144.html
   (j)
   DEFINITIONS - for the purpose of this section - (1) the term advanced
   broadband service means a service delivering data to the end user
   transmitted at a speed of at least 45 megabits per second downstream
   and
   at
   least 15 megabits per second upstream; (2) the term advanced wireless
   broadband service means a wireless service delivering to the end user
   data
   transmitted at a speed of at least 3 megabits per second downstream
 and
  at
   least 1 megabit per second upstream over and end-to-end internet
   protocol
   wireless network;
   (3) the term basic broadband service means a service delivering data
   to
   the end user transmitted to a speed of at least 5 megabits per second
   downstream and at least 1 megabit per second upstream;
  
   So the advanced broadband service is your backhaul @ 45/15 mbps,
   advanced
   broadband service SHOULD BE 5/1 mbps and basic broadband service
  SHOULD
   BE 3/1 mbps
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-13 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Tom, not sure where that information is coming from.  I have read Title VI -
Broadband Communications.  This is the current text that has just been
passed by the House.  Is it buried some where other than that or the RUS
portion?
Thanks,
Victoria

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

  I do not understand why this is going under the NTIA umbrella rather
  than
  RUS.  Any ideas on that?
 

 Yes. They didn't want Rural advocates to take all the money.  Plus, RBOC
 want all the money for next generation fiber to the home, in more
 profitable areas to serve than rural.
 Also, its a situatiuon where this is a Stimulus Bill to create jobs, not
 necessarilly a bill to solve digital divide in Rural America. RUS is
 clearly
 only Rural focused. Thats my opinion on it.
 Whther that is the reason for sure, I do not know.

 Tom DeReggi
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Its moving fast... The take on the new conferance bill is that 1/3 will 
now go to RUS and 2/3rd to NTIA.
We are expecting to get the actual text by end of day.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


 Tom, not sure where that information is coming from.  I have read Title 
 VI -
 Broadband Communications.  This is the current text that has just been
 passed by the House.  Is it buried some where other than that or the RUS
 portion?
 Thanks,
 Victoria

 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Tom DeReggi 
 wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

  I do not understand why this is going under the NTIA umbrella rather
  than
  RUS.  Any ideas on that?
 

 Yes. They didn't want Rural advocates to take all the money.  Plus, RBOC
 want all the money for next generation fiber to the home, in more
 profitable areas to serve than rural.
 Also, its a situatiuon where this is a Stimulus Bill to create jobs, not
 necessarilly a bill to solve digital divide in Rural America. RUS is
 clearly
 only Rural focused. Thats my opinion on it.
 Whther that is the reason for sure, I do not know.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband





 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-13 Thread St. Louis Broadband
I have been watching the vote on C-SPAN today and it is incredible.  Most of
the Senate are complaining that they were to receive 48 hours after the
revisions to vote.  My understanding is that the text of the revised bill,
that can be found here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/24/house-stimulus-bill-full_n_160569.htmlis
what they are currently voting on.  There are lots that are complaining that
they have not had time to review, the now, 1000+ page document.

Victoria

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 Its moving fast... The take on the new conferance bill is that 1/3 will
 now go to RUS and 2/3rd to NTIA.
 We are expecting to get the actual text by end of day.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


  Tom, not sure where that information is coming from.  I have read Title
  VI -
  Broadband Communications.  This is the current text that has just been
  passed by the House.  Is it buried some where other than that or the RUS
  portion?
  Thanks,
  Victoria
 
  On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Tom DeReggi
  wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:
 
   I do not understand why this is going under the NTIA umbrella rather
   than
   RUS.  Any ideas on that?
  
 
  Yes. They didn't want Rural advocates to take all the money.  Plus, RBOC
  want all the money for next generation fiber to the home, in more
  profitable areas to serve than rural.
  Also, its a situatiuon where this is a Stimulus Bill to create jobs, not
  necessarilly a bill to solve digital divide in Rural America. RUS is
  clearly
  only Rural focused. Thats my opinion on it.
  Whther that is the reason for sure, I do not know.
 
  Tom DeReggi
  RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
 I do not understand why this is going under the NTIA umbrella rather
 than
 RUS.  Any ideas on that?


Yes. They didn't want Rural advocates to take all the money.  Plus, RBOC 
want all the money for next generation fiber to the home, in more 
profitable areas to serve than rural.
Also, its a situatiuon where this is a Stimulus Bill to create jobs, not 
necessarilly a bill to solve digital divide in Rural America. RUS is clearly 
only Rural focused. Thats my opinion on it.
Whther that is the reason for sure, I do not know.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband





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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
On the up side, we already deliver advanced broadband out here.

And NONE of the cell phone companies do.

Heck, I only know of one town that has DSL of 2 megs up.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:49 PM
Subject: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


I don't know if this will be revised before it is voted on, but it appears
 that it needs to be corrected:
 In Title VI - BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS (pg 661-662)
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/senate-stimulus-bill-full_n_163144.html
 (j)
 DEFINITIONS - for the purpose of this section - (1) the term advanced
 broadband service means a service delivering data to the end user
 transmitted at a speed of at least 45 megabits per second downstream and 
 at
 least 15 megabits per second upstream; (2) the term advanced wireless
 broadband service means a wireless service delivering to the end user 
 data
 transmitted at a speed of at least 3 megabits per second downstream and at
 least 1 megabit per second upstream over and end-to-end internet protocol
 wireless network;
 (3) the term basic broadband service means a service delivering data to
 the end user transmitted to a speed of at least 5 megabits per second
 downstream and at least 1 megabit per second upstream;

 So the advanced broadband service is your backhaul @ 45/15 mbps, 
 advanced
 broadband service SHOULD BE 5/1 mbps and basic broadband service SHOULD
 BE 3/1 mbps


 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-12 Thread St. Louis Broadband

 The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.

AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not

eligible under the amended Sentate bill

That is crazy. What is crazier is the other technologies they are
suggesting...Powerline and PtMP and 100 megs...humm.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 That text is wrong, it is from the old House bill.

 The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.
 AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not
 eligible under the amended Sentate bill.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:49 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


 I don't know if this will be revised before it is voted on, but it appears
  that it needs to be corrected:
  In Title VI - BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS (pg 661-662)
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/senate-stimulus-bill-full_n_163144.html
  (j)
  DEFINITIONS - for the purpose of this section - (1) the term advanced
  broadband service means a service delivering data to the end user
  transmitted at a speed of at least 45 megabits per second downstream and
  at
  least 15 megabits per second upstream; (2) the term advanced wireless
  broadband service means a wireless service delivering to the end user
  data
  transmitted at a speed of at least 3 megabits per second downstream and
 at
  least 1 megabit per second upstream over and end-to-end internet protocol
  wireless network;
  (3) the term basic broadband service means a service delivering data to
  the end user transmitted to a speed of at least 5 megabits per second
  downstream and at least 1 megabit per second upstream;
 
  So the advanced broadband service is your backhaul @ 45/15 mbps,
  advanced
  broadband service SHOULD BE 5/1 mbps and basic broadband service
 SHOULD
  BE 3/1 mbps
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
Its what happens when polititions make technical decissions on soemthing 
they no nothing about.
Most legislators don't realize the implications of the text that was 
written. But the lobby group that suggested the text certainly did.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


 
 The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.

 AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not

 eligible under the amended Sentate bill

 That is crazy. What is crazier is the other technologies they are
 suggesting...Powerline and PtMP and 100 megs...humm.
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Tom DeReggi 
 wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 That text is wrong, it is from the old House bill.

 The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.
 AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not
 eligible under the amended Sentate bill.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:49 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


 I don't know if this will be revised before it is voted on, but it 
 appears
  that it needs to be corrected:
  In Title VI - BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS (pg 661-662)
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/senate-stimulus-bill-full_n_163144.html
  (j)
  DEFINITIONS - for the purpose of this section - (1) the term advanced
  broadband service means a service delivering data to the end user
  transmitted at a speed of at least 45 megabits per second downstream 
  and
  at
  least 15 megabits per second upstream; (2) the term advanced wireless
  broadband service means a wireless service delivering to the end user
  data
  transmitted at a speed of at least 3 megabits per second downstream and
 at
  least 1 megabit per second upstream over and end-to-end internet 
  protocol
  wireless network;
  (3) the term basic broadband service means a service delivering data 
  to
  the end user transmitted to a speed of at least 5 megabits per second
  downstream and at least 1 megabit per second upstream;
 
  So the advanced broadband service is your backhaul @ 45/15 mbps,
  advanced
  broadband service SHOULD BE 5/1 mbps and basic broadband service
 SHOULD
  BE 3/1 mbps
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-12 Thread reader
And everyone said I was a fool when I said the govenrment needed to stay OUT 
of the broadband business




insert witty tagline here

- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


 Its what happens when polititions make technical decissions on soemthing
 they no nothing about.
 Most legislators don't realize the implications of the text that was
 written. But the lobby group that suggested the text certainly did.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


 
 The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.

 AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not

 eligible under the amended Sentate bill

 That is crazy. What is crazier is the other technologies they are
 suggesting...Powerline and PtMP and 100 megs...humm.
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Tom DeReggi
 wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 That text is wrong, it is from the old House bill.

 The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.
 AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not
 eligible under the amended Sentate bill.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:49 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


 I don't know if this will be revised before it is voted on, but it
 appears
  that it needs to be corrected:
  In Title VI - BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS (pg 661-662)
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/senate-stimulus-bill-full_n_163144.html
  (j)
  DEFINITIONS - for the purpose of this section - (1) the term advanced
  broadband service means a service delivering data to the end user
  transmitted at a speed of at least 45 megabits per second downstream
  and
  at
  least 15 megabits per second upstream; (2) the term advanced wireless
  broadband service means a wireless service delivering to the end user
  data
  transmitted at a speed of at least 3 megabits per second downstream 
  and
 at
  least 1 megabit per second upstream over and end-to-end internet
  protocol
  wireless network;
  (3) the term basic broadband service means a service delivering data
  to
  the end user transmitted to a speed of at least 5 megabits per second
  downstream and at least 1 megabit per second upstream;
 
  So the advanced broadband service is your backhaul @ 45/15 mbps,
  advanced
  broadband service SHOULD BE 5/1 mbps and basic broadband service
 SHOULD
  BE 3/1 mbps
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-12 Thread Scottie Arnett
For once I have to agree with Muddy here, they have no clue on what they are 
deciding on! I am NOT against the whole gov't intervention thing, but these 
people in the house and senate are completely lost! ALL they now is what the 
Lobbiest are telling them and the Lobbiest are for the telco and cable co's as 
usual. I just hope that the letter sent from WISPA falls on deaf ears as what 
we are trying to do here!


Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:35:00 -0800

And everyone said I was a fool when I said the govenrment needed to stay OUT 
of the broadband business




insert witty tagline here

- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


 Its what happens when polititions make technical decissions on soemthing
 they no nothing about.
 Most legislators don't realize the implications of the text that was
 written. But the lobby group that suggested the text certainly did.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


 
 The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.

 AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not

 eligible under the amended Sentate bill

 That is crazy. What is crazier is the other technologies they are
 suggesting...Powerline and PtMP and 100 megs...humm.
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Tom DeReggi
 wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 That text is wrong, it is from the old House bill.

 The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.
 AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not
 eligible under the amended Sentate bill.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:49 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


 I don't know if this will be revised before it is voted on, but it
 appears
  that it needs to be corrected:
  In Title VI - BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS (pg 661-662)
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/senate-stimulus-bill-full_n_163144.html
  (j)
  DEFINITIONS - for the purpose of this section - (1) the term advanced
  broadband service means a service delivering data to the end user
  transmitted at a speed of at least 45 megabits per second downstream
  and
  at
  least 15 megabits per second upstream; (2) the term advanced wireless
  broadband service means a wireless service delivering to the end user
  data
  transmitted at a speed of at least 3 megabits per second downstream 
  and
 at
  least 1 megabit per second upstream over and end-to-end internet
  protocol
  wireless network;
  (3) the term basic broadband service means a service delivering data
  to
  the end user transmitted to a speed of at least 5 megabits per second
  downstream and at least 1 megabit per second upstream;
 
  So the advanced broadband service is your backhaul @ 45/15 mbps,
  advanced
  broadband service SHOULD BE 5/1 mbps and basic broadband service
 SHOULD
  BE 3/1 mbps
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-12 Thread Jack Unger
correction (?) inline

Scottie Arnett wrote:
 For once I have to agree with Muddy here, they have no clue on what they are 
 deciding on! I am NOT against the whole gov't intervention thing, but these 
 people in the house and senate are completely lost! ALL they now is what the 
 Lobbiest are telling them and the Lobbiest are for the telco and cable co's 
 as usual. I just hope that the letter sent from WISPA
doesn't fall
  fall on deaf ears as what we are trying to do here!


 Scottie

   
ZOT!!

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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-10 Thread Jack Unger
So it looks like the definitions of Basic broadband service and 
Advanced broadband service are interchanged. Good catch!!

St. Louis Broadband wrote:
 I don't know if this will be revised before it is voted on, but it appears
 that it needs to be corrected:
 In Title VI - BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS (pg 661-662)
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/senate-stimulus-bill-full_n_163144.html
 (j)
 DEFINITIONS - for the purpose of this section - (1) the term advanced
 broadband service means a service delivering data to the end user
 transmitted at a speed of at least 45 megabits per second downstream and at
 least 15 megabits per second upstream; (2) the term advanced wireless
 broadband service means a wireless service delivering to the end user data
 transmitted at a speed of at least 3 megabits per second downstream and at
 least 1 megabit per second upstream over and end-to-end internet protocol
 wireless network;
 (3) the term basic broadband service means a service delivering data to
 the end user transmitted to a speed of at least 5 megabits per second
 downstream and at least 1 megabit per second upstream;

 So the advanced broadband service is your backhaul @ 45/15 mbps, advanced
 broadband service SHOULD BE 5/1 mbps and basic broadband service SHOULD
 BE 3/1 mbps


 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-10 Thread eje
Actually not. 
Advanced broadband service 45/15
Basic broadband service 5/1
Advanced WIRELESS broadband service 3/1

But nothing stating what Basic Wireless broadband service is supposed to be at 
least in the excerpt. 

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:00:21 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


So it looks like the definitions of Basic broadband service and 
Advanced broadband service are interchanged. Good catch!!

St. Louis Broadband wrote:
 I don't know if this will be revised before it is voted on, but it appears
 that it needs to be corrected:
 In Title VI - BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS (pg 661-662)
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/senate-stimulus-bill-full_n_163144.html
 (j)
 DEFINITIONS - for the purpose of this section - (1) the term advanced
 broadband service means a service delivering data to the end user
 transmitted at a speed of at least 45 megabits per second downstream and at
 least 15 megabits per second upstream; (2) the term advanced wireless
 broadband service means a wireless service delivering to the end user data
 transmitted at a speed of at least 3 megabits per second downstream and at
 least 1 megabit per second upstream over and end-to-end internet protocol
 wireless network;
 (3) the term basic broadband service means a service delivering data to
 the end user transmitted to a speed of at least 5 megabits per second
 downstream and at least 1 megabit per second upstream;

 So the advanced broadband service is your backhaul @ 45/15 mbps, advanced
 broadband service SHOULD BE 5/1 mbps and basic broadband service SHOULD
 BE 3/1 mbps


 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-10 Thread St. Louis Broadband
You are correct!  Very confusing because most of the text under this title
is referring to wireless service and not broadband service.
I do not understand why this is going under the NTIA umbrella rather than
RUS.  Any ideas on that?

BTW - Glad about the 3/1 on wireless, since a lot of proprietary radios,
i.e. Trangos will only do that.

Victoria

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:05 PM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote:

 Actually not.
 Advanced broadband service 45/15
 Basic broadband service 5/1
 Advanced WIRELESS broadband service 3/1

 But nothing stating what Basic Wireless broadband service is supposed to be
 at least in the excerpt.

 /Eje
 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

 -Original Message-
 From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com

 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:00:21
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


 So it looks like the definitions of Basic broadband service and
 Advanced broadband service are interchanged. Good catch!!

 St. Louis Broadband wrote:
  I don't know if this will be revised before it is voted on, but it
 appears
  that it needs to be corrected:
  In Title VI - BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS (pg 661-662)
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/senate-stimulus-bill-full_n_163144.html
  (j)
  DEFINITIONS - for the purpose of this section - (1) the term advanced
  broadband service means a service delivering data to the end user
  transmitted at a speed of at least 45 megabits per second downstream and
 at
  least 15 megabits per second upstream; (2) the term advanced wireless
  broadband service means a wireless service delivering to the end user
 data
  transmitted at a speed of at least 3 megabits per second downstream and
 at
  least 1 megabit per second upstream over and end-to-end internet protocol
  wireless network;
  (3) the term basic broadband service means a service delivering data to
  the end user transmitted to a speed of at least 5 megabits per second
  downstream and at least 1 megabit per second upstream;
 
  So the advanced broadband service is your backhaul @ 45/15 mbps,
 advanced
  broadband service SHOULD BE 5/1 mbps and basic broadband service
 SHOULD
  BE 3/1 mbps
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

2009-02-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
That text is wrong, it is from the old House bill.

The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.
AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not 
eligible under the amended Sentate bill.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:49 PM
Subject: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


I don't know if this will be revised before it is voted on, but it appears
 that it needs to be corrected:
 In Title VI - BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS (pg 661-662)
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/senate-stimulus-bill-full_n_163144.html
 (j)
 DEFINITIONS - for the purpose of this section - (1) the term advanced
 broadband service means a service delivering data to the end user
 transmitted at a speed of at least 45 megabits per second downstream and 
 at
 least 15 megabits per second upstream; (2) the term advanced wireless
 broadband service means a wireless service delivering to the end user 
 data
 transmitted at a speed of at least 3 megabits per second downstream and at
 least 1 megabit per second upstream over and end-to-end internet protocol
 wireless network;
 (3) the term basic broadband service means a service delivering data to
 the end user transmitted to a speed of at least 5 megabits per second
 downstream and at least 1 megabit per second upstream;

 So the advanced broadband service is your backhaul @ 45/15 mbps, 
 advanced
 broadband service SHOULD BE 5/1 mbps and basic broadband service SHOULD
 BE 3/1 mbps


 
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