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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Dennis,
Does Mikrotik
, July 29, 2009 9:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Dennis,
Does Mikrotik adequately take advantage of Quad Core yet? And the XEON
5000series AT-I/O equivellent features for distributing NICs equally across
processors? Or I recognize some
] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Dennis,
Does Mikrotik adequately take advantage of Quad Core yet? And the XEON
5000series AT-I/O equivellent features for distributing NICs equally
Hey Randy,
Any joy with testing ROS on one of these? Would be interesting to
see how it stacks up against the RB1000's or the original PoweRouter.
P.
Randy Cosby wrote:
I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of
demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting
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From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Josh,
I would
Ballpark price? $200?
$120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:30 PM
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Cc: Motorola Canopy User Group
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Ballpark price? $200?
$120 PC + $20 NIC for a desktop one...
http://www.newegg.com
Google searches indicate $300.
if the RTL8111C-GR ethernet work well with routerOS, then it's a good
little system.
It'd also make a pretty nice little server if CPU needs aren't extreme,
you don't need 64bit, or virtualization. It's probably pretty easy on
the power bill.
On Tue, Jul 28,
I am sure that MT will support the RT* chipsets - it is Linux after all.
From my experience Linux supports every NIC and better then Windows. Anyone
from the 3com 905a or b Win98 era?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have
Gino,
I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like
it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max
RAM ( VMware).
And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC
power supply).
Could you compare it to:
Josh Luthman wrote:
I am sure that MT will support the RT* chipsets - it is Linux after all.
From my experience Linux supports every NIC and better then Windows. Anyone
from the 3com 905a or b Win98 era?
I had so succesfully blocked those memories until today.
Bad Josh! :)
I do apologize. Just realize Linux did not have this problem and
those cards are so abundant. Made me some serious bandwidth servers
for cheap at LAN parties...
On 7/28/09, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com wrote:
Josh Luthman wrote:
I am sure that MT will support the RT* chipsets - it is
Josh Luthman wrote:
I do apologize.
Haha. :)
Just realize Linux did not have this problem and
those cards are so abundant.
Oh I know. I'm well aware of that. :)
Linux is awesome. I absolutely love it.
Made me some serious bandwidth servers
for cheap at LAN parties...
Yes it
Josh,
You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one
on motherboard).
But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device.
Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to
get at.
Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't
Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with one
interface =P
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir
VLAN
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with
one
interface =P
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have
Quite right.
Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as possible. :)
Jayson Baker wrote:
VLAN
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with
one
interface =P
Josh
Right, depends on your application.
FFR Vlan is layer 2, routing is 3 :P
On 7/28/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote:
VLAN
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with
one
Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable
Sent from my Motorola Startac...
On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:
Gino,
I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like
it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance
Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe
slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB,
SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a
second ethernet to this version.
If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet
I could have sworn it did...but looking at it again it definitely does not.
I specifically remember looking for that too...
Ignore my initial post!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which
Gino,
How many ports?
What have you found for PCIe ethernet? A quick look at Newegg for 4
ports only shows Intel, at $400. So the ethernet card costs more than
the server.
If you stick with PCI (other Atom motherboards) you can use the
cheaper Mikrotik 4port gigE (~$90). Total build cost
I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of
demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting RouterOS on it to test drive.
Randy
Josh Luthman wrote:
I could have sworn it did...but looking at it again it definitely does not.
I specifically remember looking for that
Why not just use a routerboard in the first place they route at wire
speed these days
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x102
On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com
wrote:
Quite right.
Especially on a tower. One wants as few ports and cables as
Ros does not support atom
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x102
On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:
Gino,
How many ports?
What have you found for PCIe ethernet? A quick look at Newegg for 4
ports only shows Intel, at $400. So the ethernet card
Supermicros get along great with ros
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x102
On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:
I've got one of the supermicro units. They are hard to get - lots of
demand. As soon as I get time I'll be putting RouterOS on it to
RB1000 is $700 - I have always viewed Routerboards as expendable. $700
seems too much for an expendable motherboard. You can buy a really nice
Intel Core Duo with loads more horsepower for the same price from
Butch/PoweRouter.
Don't get me wrong - Routerboards are great, but for something at
I wasn't suggesting a rb1000, what about a rb450g or 493ah?
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x102
On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
RB1000 is $700 - I have always viewed Routerboards as expendable.
$700
seems too much for an
I use a 493ah for my tower sites, but all they do is bridge. The
config could be done in two seconds - new bridge, add all ports to the
bridge. I was thinking if someone is needing an Atom CPU they need
more horsepower.
I guess it really depends on what you expect out of the router...
On
Well, the 493ah can route 100mb no problem so unless you need to go
faster over a single radio link out it should be fine. Actually it
routes faster than it bridges I believe...
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x102
On Jul 28, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Josh Luthman
But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the
PowerRouter?
Travis
Microserv
Josh Luthman wrote:
Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box. 7
gigabit Intel NICs, each on their own PCIe bus, room for a CF card and I
believe an ATA port.
The
Oh wow - the PoweRouter is $1400 now!!! Ouch! Not sure what Butch's router
costs...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
But can't you still buy two RB1000's for the same price as the
PowerRouter?
Travis
Microserv
Josh Luthman wrote:
Well coming from
Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Oh wow - the PoweRouter is $1400 now!!! Ouch! Not sure what Butch's
router
costs...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy
is a great product, just comes up
short on Ports sometimes.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
But can't you
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Scott Carullo
Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
I wasn't suggesting a rb1000, what about a rb450g or 493ah?
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x102
: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Well the subject included POP router. Kind of difficult to route with
one
interface =P
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which
imho its overpriced
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 7:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Well coming from the rb1000 I would suggest Butch/PoweRouter's x86 box
we did
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 8:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Has anyone had a 1000 hardware problem? Lightning excluded.
On 7/28/09, Dennis
funny thing .. we have several atoms mb running ros
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Scott Carullo
Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Ros does not support atom
Scott
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Scott Carullo
Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Ros does not support atom
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x102
On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06
of Scott Carullo
Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Ros does not support atom
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x102
On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:
Gino,
How many
hcl?
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 9:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Ya that HCL doesn't cut it IMO. I don't mean offend but when it says
3.0+ works
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
hcl?
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 9:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router
on behalf of Scott Carullo
Sent: Tue 7/28/2009 6:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Ros does not support atom
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x102
On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:06 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:
Gino
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice unit for POP Router / Appliance
Hcl is hardware compatibility list
On 7/28/09, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
hcl?
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