Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
On Jun 19, 2006, at 5:37 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Does Canopy use VLAN tagging at the CPE? Yes I didn't think they did. I thought they just did passthrough like Trango? Can do that too. Canopy doesn't support bandwdith management assignment based on VLANs does it? Not per VLAN, but per

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
term liabilty if leasing. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K On Jun 19, 2006, at 5:37 PM, Tom

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K All of your comments are from your

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K QinQ VLAN is interesting and all, but it is no longer the preferred way to sell layer 2

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:19 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Patrick, With version 4.0 on VL the radio will support jumbo frames and that is 1540 to allow QinQ transport. Brad -Original Message- From: Patrick

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-19 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
- Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K QinQ VLAN is interesting and all, but it is no longer the preferred way to sell layer 2 transport. Certainly

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Matt, one of my competitors has been doing mpls over fixed wireless since last year. BTW: what you are using for mpls ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
server built) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K http

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K You don't need connectorized backhauls. The sync functionality alone allows you to densely colocate backhauls. We've had as many as 5 Canopy backhauls mounted

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-19 Thread Gino A. Villarini
: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Maybe thats a question we should be asking you. What is your friend using for MPLS? I beleive Matt is using all Cisco. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Matt Liotta
: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Does it support MTUs greater than 1500? More specifically, we

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Brad Larson
Patrick, With version 4.0 on VL the radio will support jumbo frames and that is 1540 to allow QinQ transport. Brad -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 12:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K As a non engineer

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Gino A. Villarini
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K QinQ VLAN is interesting and all, but it is no longer the preferred way to sell layer 2 transport. Certainly, many carriers continue to use QinQ

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Matt Liotta
Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K QinQ VLAN is interesting

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K I figured my statement would generate comments about others running MPLS. We use Cisco BTW. -Matt Gino A. Villarini wrote: Matt, one of my competitors has been doing mpls over fixed wireless since last year. BTW: what you are using for mpls

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Matt Liotta
787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K I figured my statement would generate comments about others

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Patrick Leary
Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K I figured my statement would generate

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Matt Liotta
Patrick Leary wrote: Matt, to further your comments that you see WISPs providing layer 2 transort for carriers. We have multiple CLECs and non-CLECs buying layer 2 transport from us now. All are used to buy alternative access from fiber providers and therefore fixed wireless was a naturally

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Patrick Leary
: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Patrick Leary wrote: Matt, to further your comments that you see WISPs providing layer 2 transort for carriers. We have multiple CLECs and non-CLECs buying layer 2 transport from us now. All are used to buy alternative access from fiber providers

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread John Scrivner
] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K QinQ VLAN

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Matt Liotta
: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Patrick Leary wrote: Matt, to further your comments that you see WISPs providing layer 2 transort for carriers. We have multiple

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Brad Larson
So you're using a 20 mhz channel to support one business client? Brad -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K We rarely use multi-point systems

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Matt Liotta
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K We rarely use multi-point systems for customers and when we do they are either small businesses with very little voice and data needs or they are just data customers. All of our customers with any significant amount

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Jon Langeler
to 8-10 per Canopy sector and maybe 20 on a Trango sector. Patrick -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Only 1512 also limits the use of many VPN

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Travis Johnson
performance Matt? Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Patrick

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Brad Larson
] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Patrick, my string-and-can wifi asterisk ap does more than 10 calls! :-)Honestly, 288 G711 calls is probably more towards the high end. Whether you would like to realize

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread danlist
Liotta Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Never tried to put that many on a tower, but then again we don't use too many towers. We've had 15 or so on a single roof before, but for the most part we never really put more

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Brad Larson
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Never tried to put that many on a tower, but then again we don't use too many towers. We've had 15 or so on a single roof before

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K QinQ VLAN is interesting

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Patrick Leary
of side to side testing, especially with 4.0. Patrick -Original Message- From: Jon Langeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 12:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Patrick, my string-and-can wifi asterisk ap does more than 10

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Jon Langeler
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Patrick, my string-and-can wifi asterisk ap does more than 10 calls! :-)Honestly, 288 G711 calls is probably more towards the high end. Whether you would like to realize it or not, canopy has come a ways over the years. If you

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Brad Larson
-Original Message- From: Jon Langeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 12:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Brad, I'm not disputing the Alvarion numbers, they look great. Your statement below is absolutely true

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
per Canopy sector and maybe 20 on a Trango sector. Patrick -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Only 1512 also limits the use of many VPN

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Jon Langeler
Matt? Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Patrick Leary

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-16 Thread Matt Liotta
? Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Patrick Leary

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Matt Liotta
Does it support MTUs greater than 1500? More specifically, we are looking for an MTU of 1532. -Matt Patrick Leary wrote: Okay, be forewarned that so this is a shameless plug, but the data from beta testers of our new B100 OFDM point-to-point is worth sharing. In the Texas panhandle one

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Patrick Leary
: about 70Mbps for under $6K Does it support MTUs greater than 1500? More specifically, we are looking for an MTU of 1532. -Matt Patrick Leary wrote: Okay, be forewarned that so this is a shameless plug, but the data from beta testers of our new B100 OFDM point-to-point is worth sharing

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Patrick Leary
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Does it support MTUs greater than 1500? More specifically, we are looking for an MTU of 1532. -Matt Patrick Leary wrote: Okay, be forewarned that so this is a shameless plug, but the data from beta testers of our new B100 OFDM

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Matt Liotta
: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Does it support MTUs greater than 1500? More specifically, we are looking for an MTU of 1532. -Matt

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini
: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Does it support MTUs greater than 1500? More specifically, we are looking

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Matt Liotta
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Our setup requires the following: 1500 bytes for payload 4 bytes for VLANs 4 bytes for LDP 4 bytes for EoMPLS header 18 bytes for Ethernet header That means we need an MTU of at least

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Jack Unger
Patrick, I'd appreciate all the info you can send me. One of my clients is considering B28s. Thanks, jack Patrick Leary wrote: Okay, be forewarned that so this is a shameless plug, but the data from beta testers of our new B100 OFDM point-to-point is worth sharing. In the Texas

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Jack Unger
Oops, my apologies... this email should have gone direct and not to the list. I'lll tri too bee morf careflull... Jack Unger wrote: Patrick, I'd appreciate all the info you can send me. One of my clients is considering B28s. Thanks, jack Patrick Leary wrote: Okay, be

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Charles Wu
Hi Patrick, For clarification purposes -- 70 Mbps is achievable only in Turbo mode (40 Mhz channel sizes) correct? Also -- will it support a slim 5 or 10 Mhz channel mode? -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Matt, I just got the reply to your question: the maximum packet size is 1512. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
it was for their own network. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Our

RE: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-15 Thread Patrick Leary
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K Only 1512 also limits the use of many VPN technologies used to tunnel to partners, if offering wholesale transport services. For example, IPSEC. Microtik allowed