RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-29 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I got the adapter off ebay.  I plugged it into the desktop and I HAVE
ACCESS!  I was able to get my important stuff (quickbooks, IP and mac
list, company info and oictures)  I am working on mozilla right now.  I
can find wehre the emails would be stored at?  I had thousands of them
in folders and what not.  Anyone know where mozilla stores emails at?

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These are the guys I might send it to.  After my software scan I will
decide.  After talking with them they sound ok.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Frank Muto
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:32 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

Note on Gillwares website about their one exception to a no-charge for
data
recovery.

Broken Warranty Seals
If the warranty seals are broken, we cannot offer the no recovery no fee
deal. Because previously-serviced drives without intact warranty seals
usually require significantly more time for us to diagnose and repair,
we
require a $150 upfront surcharge for servicing these drives. This
surcharge
is non-refundable.

In addition, the base fee for servicing a drive without intact warranty
seals is an extra $500 for a total of $1028.99 for Windows based drives
when
we're successful. If the platters have been visibly damaged during your
attempt you should save your money and not send it. If it was a
multi-platter drive and you attempted to remove the platters you should
save
your money and not send it.




Frank Muto
President/Ceo
FSM Marketing Group, Inc
Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA








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 I have the adapter on the way.  I will plug it into my desktop once
and
 run a software recover utility once to see what happens.  After this,
I
 will send it off to a cleanroom.  If a drive needs cleanroom work...
 www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com


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RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-28 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I have the adapter on the way.  I will plug it into my desktop once and
run a software recover utility once to see what happens.  After this, I
will send it off to a cleanroom.  If a drive needs cleanroom work...
www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com



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I never asked.  I just am amazed at his results.  Did you check his site
and
email him?  

Sean Gayle


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$100  Does he have a clean room?

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Contact this guy.  He has done wonders for us.  Charges $10 to look at
it.
Your charges for shipping to him.  If he can salvage data from it he
usually
charges $100, more for a full recovery.  Email him at M. J. Thompson
Data
Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

www.mjtdata.com

Robert Reyes (Owner)
M. J. Thompson Data Recovery
1177 Elm Street, Lynden, Washington 98264

www.mjtdata.com

Sean Gayle
JohnnyO's good twin


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This is the route I will take.  I have tried to boot it 6 or 7 times and
I will NOT power it up again.  My external backup drive just got here
Friday too!  I was a day late.  :(  I have found a few places with flat
rates at $700 or so.  I will keep looking.  Anyone have a Dell 8600? 
Will you take the hard drive out and jiggle it?  I want to know it it
rattles.  Just for peace of mind.  I hope it rattles.

If anyone does not have backups, go do it now.  THIS SUCKS.  I hve Dell
complete care, so laptop replacement is free, but not the data.



Joe Fiero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/27/2005, 04:42:58 PM:
 Brian,
 
 If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING!  Do not attempt any
 additional boots.  You have head damage, and each RPM is causing
pitting
 on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it.
Send
it
 only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials.  Be prepared
to
 spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on
the
 damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover.  If it is more
than a
 few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it
on.
 
 I hope you have better luck than I did.  I decided that I was as good
as
the
 experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters
into
a
 good working identical drive I had ling around.  It was a fatal error
and
I
 lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often,
don't
we
 ;)  I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to
after I
 was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Joe
 

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RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-28 Thread Frank Muto
Note on Gillwares website about their one exception to a no-charge for data
recovery.

Broken Warranty Seals
If the warranty seals are broken, we cannot offer the no recovery no fee
deal. Because previously-serviced drives without intact warranty seals
usually require significantly more time for us to diagnose and repair, we
require a $150 upfront surcharge for servicing these drives. This surcharge
is non-refundable.

In addition, the base fee for servicing a drive without intact warranty
seals is an extra $500 for a total of $1028.99 for Windows based drives when
we're successful. If the platters have been visibly damaged during your
attempt you should save your money and not send it. If it was a
multi-platter drive and you attempted to remove the platters you should save
your money and not send it.




Frank Muto
President/Ceo
FSM Marketing Group, Inc
Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA








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From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure


 I have the adapter on the way.  I will plug it into my desktop once and
 run a software recover utility once to see what happens.  After this, I
 will send it off to a cleanroom.  If a drive needs cleanroom work...
 www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com


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RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-28 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
These are the guys I might send it to.  After my software scan I will
decide.  After talking with them they sound ok.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Frank Muto
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

Note on Gillwares website about their one exception to a no-charge for
data
recovery.

Broken Warranty Seals
If the warranty seals are broken, we cannot offer the no recovery no fee
deal. Because previously-serviced drives without intact warranty seals
usually require significantly more time for us to diagnose and repair,
we
require a $150 upfront surcharge for servicing these drives. This
surcharge
is non-refundable.

In addition, the base fee for servicing a drive without intact warranty
seals is an extra $500 for a total of $1028.99 for Windows based drives
when
we're successful. If the platters have been visibly damaged during your
attempt you should save your money and not send it. If it was a
multi-platter drive and you attempted to remove the platters you should
save
your money and not send it.




Frank Muto
President/Ceo
FSM Marketing Group, Inc
Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA








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 I have the adapter on the way.  I will plug it into my desktop once
and
 run a software recover utility once to see what happens.  After this,
I
 will send it off to a cleanroom.  If a drive needs cleanroom work...
 www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com


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Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-27 Thread Frank Muto



NTI - http://www.ntius.com has some backup products 
you may want to consider. Right now they have a product called Shadow 2 for a 
99 download (Reg. $29.99). Automatic, Continuous 
Back Up, Native File Format – Easy to Restore,Works in the 
Background,Schedule back up jobs andAdvanced filtering to back up 
photos, videos, music and data 



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for ISP Advocacy - WBIATelecom Summit Ad Hoc Committeehttp://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ 
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  Brian 
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  Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:33 
  AM
  Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive 
  Failure
  
  
  Here’s the story. Laptop fell off top of car on 
  expressway (don’t ask). It booted 
  up. I put it back to sleep. I booted it up again and was checking 
  email and it went to blue sceen of death. Now all I get is disk boot 
  failure. When I take hard drive 
  out and shake it, it “rattles” a little. 
  All my company info is on it…not backed up (again, don’t ask). I have heard of places to send hard 
  drives in and have them rescue my data. 
  They take it all apart and what not. Anyone know of as place like 
  this?
  
  Brian
  
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RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-27 Thread Joe Fiero
Brian,

If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING!  Do not attempt any
additional boots.  You have head damage, and each RPM is causing pitting
on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it.  Send it
only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials.  Be prepared to
spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on the
damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover.  If it is more than a
few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it on.

I hope you have better luck than I did.  I decided that I was as good as the
experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters into a
good working identical drive I had ling around.  It was a fatal error and I
lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often, don't we
;)  I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to after I
was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage.

Good luck.

Joe




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RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-27 Thread Sean Gayle
Contact this guy.  He has done wonders for us.  Charges $10 to look at it.
Your charges for shipping to him.  If he can salvage data from it he usually
charges $100, more for a full recovery.  Email him at M. J. Thompson Data
Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

www.mjtdata.com

Robert Reyes (Owner)
M. J. Thompson Data Recovery
1177 Elm Street, Lynden, Washington 98264

www.mjtdata.com

Sean Gayle
JohnnyO's good twin


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This is the route I will take.  I have tried to boot it 6 or 7 times and
I will NOT power it up again.  My external backup drive just got here
Friday too!  I was a day late.  :(  I have found a few places with flat
rates at $700 or so.  I will keep looking.  Anyone have a Dell 8600? 
Will you take the hard drive out and jiggle it?  I want to know it it
rattles.  Just for peace of mind.  I hope it rattles.

If anyone does not have backups, go do it now.  THIS SUCKS.  I hve Dell
complete care, so laptop replacement is free, but not the data.



Joe Fiero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/27/2005, 04:42:58 PM:
 Brian,
 
 If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING!  Do not attempt any
 additional boots.  You have head damage, and each RPM is causing pitting
 on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it.  Send
it
 only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials.  Be prepared to
 spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on the
 damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover.  If it is more than a
 few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it on.
 
 I hope you have better luck than I did.  I decided that I was as good as
the
 experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters into
a
 good working identical drive I had ling around.  It was a fatal error and
I
 lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often, don't
we
 ;)  I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to after I
 was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-27 Thread Tony Weasler
Hi Brian,

  I've been in your situation before and I understand how bad it
sucks.  Fortunately, I had a week-old backup, but I did try data
recovery anyway to see what they could recover.  I sent it to Data
Recovery Services in Dallas (http://www.datarecovery.net/).  I
evaluated about 5 other companies (including the leader onTrack) and
decided to use them because they seemed competent when I spoke with a
technician over the phone and had a pricing model that I liked. (I
would not use a one-price-for-all service because they have a
disincentive to attempt recovery if they think that it will cost them
more than the price you paid -- and you have no way to know whether
they decided not to attempt recovery or if the data was actually
unrecoverable.)  DRS was unable to do any recovery for the initial $99
assessment and estimated that it would take about $500 to attempt the
next stage. The data wasn't worth more than a few hundred $$ so I
opted to return the drive to Dell under warranty (which they accepted
even after it was opened by DRS.)

  My drive was a little further gone than yours -- it was doing the
head-park clicking when it was powered on and it would not even show
up during the POST drive detection.  Depending on the value of your
data you may want to try and connect it to a desktop machine and try
to recover the data yourself.  I've done this a few times when the
data wasn't that important that its loss was worth  ~$300.  On at
least 4 occasions I was able to recover all of the data I needed.

Here's what I did. This may or may not work for you (don't blame me
when you create a hunk of aluminum out of your drive using these
instructions :)  Read all of the instructions before you begin.  I'm
assuming a relatively decent knowledge of PC innards and Windows.  If
the instructions are confusing and the information has any value (on
the desktop or notebook drives,) pay someone to recover the data for you.

Things you need:

- Desktop PC running the same or newer OS (Windows XP is explained
below) and an unused IDE controller/cable.  Disconnect any devices
from that IDE cable (CD drive, etc.)

- Notebook to desktop IDE converter like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2_W0QQitemZ6825102710

- Working knowledge of the command shell xcopy utility. xcopy /?
should give you a good start.  Make sure you use the /c switch to
continue on errors.
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/xcopy.mspx

Preparation
---

Be careful when handling the notebook drive.  Grab it gently by the
sides.  Never press on the top and try not to touch the electronics on
the bottom.  Static electricity is also your enemy.  Keep yourself and
all the components at the same electrical potential by connecting them
together electrically (like by using a grounding system with a wrist
strap.)  If any of the components are grounded then you should be too.

Backup all the data on the desktop PC that you will be using.  You
could end up frying that drive too.  Make directories called
c:\nbDrive c:\nbDrive\important c:\nbDrive\all on the desktop
machine and make sure that you have at least enough space free for all
of the files on the failing drive times two.

Write down all of the files that are important to you on the failing
drive (with full path names.)  Don't forget about Outlook data files,
Quickbooks data files, etc.  Rank them in the order of importance.
This is the order that you will try to recover them.

You want to minimize the spin-up/down cycles on the failing drive so
power up the desktop computer with it disconnected and go into the
BIOS to make sure that the Primary device on the secondary (or
whatever controller you will connect your drive to) IDE controller is
active and set to auto-detection.  Turn on the display of POST
information in the BIOS (so you can see the drives as they are being
detected.)

Practice going into the Windows Safe Mode selection screen by pressing
F8 repeatedly just after the BIOS POST screen.  When you can get to
the screen 3x in a row, continue.

Connecting the Devices
--

Power down the desktop PC (Turn it off with a current-interrupting
switch or remove the power cord.  Most newer computers still have
current running through many of the components when they are powered
off with a soft-switch.

Connect the notebook drive ADAPTER (not the drive yet) to the Primary
connector on the IDE cable.  Nothing should be connected to the
Secondary drive connector.  Connect the power to the drive adapter.

You may have to remove the caddy (four screws usually on the bottom)
and a wedge-shaped converter that Dell likes to use on their notebook
drives first.  I find that a small needle-nose pliers takes it off
pretty easily without bending the pins.  Pull gently on one side (1mm
at a time) and then on the other until it comes off easily from the
middle.

Connect the notebook adapter to the notebook drive.  Make sure that
you match up 

Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-27 Thread Tony Weasler
Yes, it should probably rattle.  If you got it to work at all, there
probably isn't any damage that you could detect by shaking it :)  Dell
uses a few different brands of hard drive in their notebooks.  The
Fujitsu and Toshiba drives that I have seen all rattle. In fact my
Toshiba says RATTLE NOISE IS NORMAL right on the top sticker...

 - Tony


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Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-27 Thread Ron Wallace
Frank,
Thanks for the tip, I needed this and Brians Misfortune has prompted me 
to buy, I'm downloading now.

Ron Wallace
Hahnron, Inc.
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RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-27 Thread David Weddell








If all else fails, get with us. We have a
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do it, it probably cant be done.





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Got a couple leads off Google, but I want
to use someone that one of you has used if possible. 







http://www.gillware.com/?campaign=google1



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Failure



Heres the story. Laptop fell off
top of car on expressway (dont ask). It booted up. I put it back to sleep.
I booted it up again and was checking email and it went to blue sceen of
death. Now all I get is disk boot failure. When I take hard drive out and
shake it, it rattles a little. All my company info is on itnot backed up
(again, dont ask). I have heard of places to send hard drives in and have
them rescue my data. They take it all apart and what not. Anyone know of as
place like this?



Brian










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RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
$100  Does he have a clean room?

Reliable Internet


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Behalf Of Sean Gayle
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:25 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

Contact this guy.  He has done wonders for us.  Charges $10 to look at
it.
Your charges for shipping to him.  If he can salvage data from it he
usually
charges $100, more for a full recovery.  Email him at M. J. Thompson
Data
Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

www.mjtdata.com

Robert Reyes (Owner)
M. J. Thompson Data Recovery
1177 Elm Street, Lynden, Washington 98264

www.mjtdata.com

Sean Gayle
JohnnyO's good twin


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This is the route I will take.  I have tried to boot it 6 or 7 times and
I will NOT power it up again.  My external backup drive just got here
Friday too!  I was a day late.  :(  I have found a few places with flat
rates at $700 or so.  I will keep looking.  Anyone have a Dell 8600? 
Will you take the hard drive out and jiggle it?  I want to know it it
rattles.  Just for peace of mind.  I hope it rattles.

If anyone does not have backups, go do it now.  THIS SUCKS.  I hve Dell
complete care, so laptop replacement is free, but not the data.



Joe Fiero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/27/2005, 04:42:58 PM:
 Brian,
 
 If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING!  Do not attempt any
 additional boots.  You have head damage, and each RPM is causing
pitting
 on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it.
Send
it
 only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials.  Be prepared
to
 spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on
the
 damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover.  If it is more
than a
 few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it
on.
 
 I hope you have better luck than I did.  I decided that I was as good
as
the
 experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters
into
a
 good working identical drive I had ling around.  It was a fatal error
and
I
 lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often,
don't
we
 ;)  I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to
after I
 was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 
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RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Hey Ron.  If you feel sorry for me, why don't you buy me lunch (ya
right, you’re a WISP, you don’t have money)  :)  We're not too far
apart.  I'd like to shake your hand and talk WISP over lunch someday.
Hit me up.  I'll meet you halfway.


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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:27 PM
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Frank,
Thanks for the tip, I needed this and Brians Misfortune has prompted me 
to buy, I'm downloading now.

Ron Wallace
Hahnron, Inc.
220 S. Jackson St.
Addison, MI 49220

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RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-27 Thread Sean Gayle
I never asked.  I just am amazed at his results.  Did you check his site and
email him?  

Sean Gayle


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$100  Does he have a clean room?

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sean Gayle
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:25 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

Contact this guy.  He has done wonders for us.  Charges $10 to look at
it.
Your charges for shipping to him.  If he can salvage data from it he
usually
charges $100, more for a full recovery.  Email him at M. J. Thompson
Data
Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

www.mjtdata.com

Robert Reyes (Owner)
M. J. Thompson Data Recovery
1177 Elm Street, Lynden, Washington 98264

www.mjtdata.com

Sean Gayle
JohnnyO's good twin


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure


This is the route I will take.  I have tried to boot it 6 or 7 times and
I will NOT power it up again.  My external backup drive just got here
Friday too!  I was a day late.  :(  I have found a few places with flat
rates at $700 or so.  I will keep looking.  Anyone have a Dell 8600? 
Will you take the hard drive out and jiggle it?  I want to know it it
rattles.  Just for peace of mind.  I hope it rattles.

If anyone does not have backups, go do it now.  THIS SUCKS.  I hve Dell
complete care, so laptop replacement is free, but not the data.



Joe Fiero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/27/2005, 04:42:58 PM:
 Brian,
 
 If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING!  Do not attempt any
 additional boots.  You have head damage, and each RPM is causing
pitting
 on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it.
Send
it
 only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials.  Be prepared
to
 spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on
the
 damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover.  If it is more
than a
 few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it
on.
 
 I hope you have better luck than I did.  I decided that I was as good
as
the
 experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters
into
a
 good working identical drive I had ling around.  It was a fatal error
and
I
 lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often,
don't
we
 ;)  I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to
after I
 was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 
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RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-26 Thread Brian Rohrbacher








Exact message is “A Disk read error occurred”





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Here’s the story.  Laptop fell off top of car on expressway
(don’t ask).  It booted up.  I put it back to sleep.  I booted it up again and was checking email
and it went to blue sceen of death.  Now
all I get is disk boot failure.  When I
take hard drive out and shake it, it “rattles” a little.  All my company info is on it…not backed up
(again, don’t ask).  I have heard of
places to send hard drives in and have them rescue my data.  They take it all apart and what not.  Anyone know of as place like this?



Brian










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RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-26 Thread Brian Rohrbacher








Got a couple leads off Google,
but I want to use someone that one of you has used if possible. 







http://www.gillware.com/?campaign=google1



http://www.drivesavers.com/











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Failure



Here’s the story. Laptop fell off top of car on expressway
(don’t ask). It booted
up. I put it back to sleep. I booted it up again and was checking
email and it went to blue sceen of death.
Now all I get is disk boot failure.
When I take hard drive out and shake it, it “rattles” a
little. All my company info is on
it…not backed up (again, don’t ask). I have heard of places to send hard
drives in and have them rescue my data.
They take it all apart and what not. Anyone know of as place like this?



Brian










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Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure

2005-11-26 Thread Blair Davis
In my experience, most good laptop drives 'rattle' when shaken.  I just 
verified this with a few spares we have around...


I'd try this, before I'd send it off...

Using a 44pin to 40pin IDE adapter, install the drive on a desktop 
secondary IDE channel.


Make sure that this desktop has the same OS as the laptop had.

Boot it up and see if you can access the drive.  If so, copy your data 
files off it right away.  It might just be boot sector damage...


The last time I used one of those services was in 97'.  It was pricey 
then.  I shudder to think what it would cost now


www.harddriverecovery.org

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Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Here’s the story.  Laptop fell off top of car on expressway (don’t 
ask).  It booted up.  I put it back to sleep.  I booted it up again 
and was checking email and it went to blue sceen of death.  Now all I 
get is disk boot failure.  When I take hard drive out and shake it, it 
“rattles” a little.  All my company info is on it…not backed up 
(again, don’t ask).  I have heard of places to send hard drives in and 
have them rescue my data.  They take it all apart and what not.  
Anyone know of as place like this?


 


Brian

 



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