Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when you don't
need 100s of megs it is a good option.

No personal experience with them though.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is
 trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
 anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
 I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
 about 20-30 mbps.


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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Randy Cosby
I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to 
consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or Tranzeo.  
Of course distance will be a factor with those.



Josh Luthman wrote:
 I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when you don't
 need 100s of megs it is a good option.

 No personal experience with them though.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:

   
 I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is
 trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
 anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
 I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
 about 20-30 mbps.


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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I'd highly recommend the Trango TLink-45s.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com wrote:
 I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to
 consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or Tranzeo.
 Of course distance will be a factor with those.



 Josh Luthman wrote:
 I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when you don't
 need 100s of megs it is a good option.

 No personal experience with them though.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is
 trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
 anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
 I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
 about 20-30 mbps.


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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and you can get
better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but terrible 100k
at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.

For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual polarity
5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
problematic).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:

 I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to
 consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or Tranzeo.
 Of course distance will be a factor with those.



 Josh Luthman wrote:
  I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when you
 don't
  need 100s of megs it is a good option.
 
  No personal experience with them though.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is
  trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
  anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
  I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
  about 20-30 mbps.
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Ron Calhoun
I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles
away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz gear
along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and you can get
 better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but terrible 100k
 at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.

 For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual polarity
 5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
 problematic).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:

 I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to
 consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or Tranzeo.
 Of course distance will be a factor with those.



 Josh Luthman wrote:
  I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when you
 don't
  need 100s of megs it is a good option.
 
  No personal experience with them though.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is
  trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
  anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
  I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
  about 20-30 mbps.
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20 to 30 megs I
would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat (figure $1k
per side on the high end)

I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac dishes.  If
you want my full parts list let me know.

We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point and play.
Had to say that before Dennis...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles
 away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz gear
 along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:
  Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and you can
 get
  better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but terrible
 100k
  at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.
 
  For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual polarity
  5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
  problematic).
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:
 
  I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to
  consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or Tranzeo.
  Of course distance will be a factor with those.
 
 
 
  Josh Luthman wrote:
   I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when you
  don't
   need 100s of megs it is a good option.
  
   No personal experience with them though.
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
   improbable, must be the truth.
   --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
  
   I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is
   trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
   anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
   I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
   about 20-30 mbps.
  
  
   --
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Ron Calhoun
This LingoWave equipment is promising  true TCP throughput up to 70
Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than $1k.
40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo gear).



On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20 to 30 megs I
 would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat (figure $1k
 per side on the high end)

 I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac dishes.  If
 you want my full parts list let me know.

 We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point and play.
 Had to say that before Dennis...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles
 away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz gear
 along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:
  Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and you can
 get
  better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but terrible
 100k
  at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.
 
  For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual polarity
  5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
  problematic).
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:
 
  I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to
  consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or Tranzeo.
  Of course distance will be a factor with those.
 
 
 
  Josh Luthman wrote:
   I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when you
  don't
   need 100s of megs it is a good option.
  
   No personal experience with them though.
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
   improbable, must be the truth.
   --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
  
   I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is
   trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
   anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
   I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
   about 20-30 mbps.
  
  
   --
  
  
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      KCnet Wireless Administrator
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
FWIW someone in the School needs 100mbps thread mentioned they use 433 and
R52 to get 80-90 megs using 40mhz channels

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:

 This LingoWave equipment is promising  true TCP throughput up to 70
 Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than $1k.
 40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo gear).



 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:
  If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20 to 30
 megs I
  would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat (figure
 $1k
  per side on the high end)
 
  I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac dishes.
  If
  you want my full parts list let me know.
 
  We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point and
 play.
  Had to say that before Dennis...
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles
  away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz gear
  along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:
   Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and you can
  get
   better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but terrible
  100k
   at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.
  
   For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual
 polarity
   5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
   problematic).
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
   improbable, must be the truth.
   --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com
 wrote:
  
   I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to
   consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or
 Tranzeo.
   Of course distance will be a factor with those.
  
  
  
   Josh Luthman wrote:
I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when
 you
   don't
need 100s of megs it is a good option.
   
No personal experience with them though.
   
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
   
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
   
   
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun 
 rons.wirel...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
   
I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is
trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
about 20-30 mbps.
   
   
--
   
   
~Ron Calhoun
   KCnet Wireless Administrator
   
   
   
   
  
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
Prices are per end. I have not used Ligo personally. A friend of mine has 10 
sets in the air and swears by them.

You might want to use connectorized radios and panel antennas, particularly if 
you plan to standardize. If you have connectorized radios, then you only need 
one spare on the shelf. If you go with integrated, then you are stuck with the 
antenna that's on it and have to stock connectorized and integrated.





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ron Calhoun
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

This LingoWave equipment is promising  true TCP throughput up to 70
Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than $1k.
40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo gear).



On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20 to 30 megs I
 would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat (figure $1k
 per side on the high end)

 I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac dishes.  If
 you want my full parts list let me know.

 We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point and play.
 Had to say that before Dennis...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles
 away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz gear
 along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:
  Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and you can
 get
  better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but terrible
 100k
  at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.
 
  For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual polarity
  5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
  problematic).
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:
 
  I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to
  consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or Tranzeo.
  Of course distance will be a factor with those.
 
 
 
  Josh Luthman wrote:
   I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when you
  don't
   need 100s of megs it is a good option.
  
   No personal experience with them though.
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
   improbable, must be the truth.
   --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
  
   I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is
   trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
   anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
   I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
   about 20-30 mbps.
  
  
   --
  
  
   ~Ron Calhoun
      KCnet Wireless Administrator
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson




That would be using two R52 cards on each side (so 80mhz of channel
total). Using MT, the most I have seen using 40mhz channel size is
60Mbps.

Travis
Microserv

Josh Luthman wrote:

  FWIW someone in the "School needs 100mbps" thread mentioned they use 433 and
R52 to get 80-90 megs using 40mhz channels

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:

  
  
This LingoWave equipment is promising  true TCP throughput up to 70
Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than $1k.
40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo gear).



On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:


  If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20 to 30
  

megs I


  would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat (figure
  

$1k


  per side on the high end)

I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac dishes.
  

 If


  you want my full parts list let me know.

We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point and
  

play.


  Had to say that before Dennis...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com
  

wrote:


  
I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles
away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz gear
along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman

  

j...@imaginenetworksllc.com


  
wrote:


  Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and you can
  

get


  better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but terrible
  

100k


  at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.

For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual
  

  

polarity


  

  5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
problematic).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com
  

  

wrote:


  

  
I really like mineBut, being in a "noisy" area, you may want to
consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or

  

  

Tranzeo.


  

  
Of course distance will be a factor with those.



Josh Luthman wrote:


  I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when
  

  

  

you


  

  
don't


  need 100s of megs it is a good option.

No personal experience with them though.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
  

  

  

however


  

  

  improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun 
  

  

  

rons.wirel...@gmail.com


  

  
wrote:


  
  
  
I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is
trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
about 20-30 mbps.


--


~Ron Calhoun
   KCnet Wireless Administrator





  

  

  




  

  

  
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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Travis is right, 80mhz of spectrum (ya...)

Are you saying you saw 60 megs on ONE 40mhz link?!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:

  That would be using two R52 cards on each side (so 80mhz of channel
 total). Using MT, the most I have seen using 40mhz channel size is 60Mbps.

 Travis
 Microserv


 Josh Luthman wrote:

 FWIW someone in the School needs 100mbps thread mentioned they use 433 and
 R52 to get 80-90 megs using 40mhz channels

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com 
 rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:



  This LingoWave equipment is promising  true TCP throughput up to 70
 Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than $1k.
 40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo gear).



 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:


  If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20 to 30


  megs I


  would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat (figure


  $1k


  per side on the high end)

 I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac dishes.


   If


  you want my full parts list let me know.

 We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point and


  play.


  Had to say that before Dennis...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com 
 rons.wirel...@gmail.com

  wrote:


  I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles
 away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz gear
 along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman


  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com


  wrote:


  Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and you can


  get


  better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but terrible


  100k


  at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.

 For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual


   polarity


   5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
 problematic).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com 
 dco...@infowest.com

   wrote:


   I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to
 consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or


   Tranzeo.


   Of course distance will be a factor with those.



 Josh Luthman wrote:


  I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when


you


   don't


  need 100s of megs it is a good option.

 No personal experience with them though.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,


however


improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun 


rons.wirel...@gmail.com


   wrote:


 I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep 
 is
 trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
 anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
 I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
 about 20-30 mbps.


 --


 ~Ron Calhoun
KCnet Wireless Administrator







 


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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson




Yes. I have personally done 60Mbps of actual traffic across a MT using
40mhz of spectrum (only going 1 mile with a -60 signal and using P4
systems on each end). I was also testing "through" the radio link, not
using the actual radios themselves to test.

Travis
Microserv

Josh Luthman wrote:

  Travis is right, 80mhz of spectrum (ya...)

Are you saying you saw 60 megs on ONE 40mhz link?!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:

  
  
 That would be using two R52 cards on each side (so 80mhz of channel
total). Using MT, the most I have seen using 40mhz channel size is 60Mbps.

Travis
Microserv


Josh Luthman wrote:

FWIW someone in the "School needs 100mbps" thread mentioned they use 433 and
R52 to get 80-90 megs using 40mhz channels

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:



 This LingoWave equipment is promising  true TCP throughput up to 70
Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than $1k.
40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo gear).



On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:


 If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20 to 30


 megs I


 would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat (figure


 $1k


 per side on the high end)

I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac dishes.


  If


 you want my full parts list let me know.

We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point and


 play.


 Had to say that before Dennis...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com rons.wirel...@gmail.com

 wrote:


 I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles
away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz gear
along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman


 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com


 wrote:


 Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and you can


 get


 better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but terrible


 100k


 at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.

For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual


  polarity


  5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
problematic).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com dco...@infowest.com

  wrote:


  I really like mineBut, being in a "noisy" area, you may want to
consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or


  Tranzeo.


  Of course distance will be a factor with those.



Josh Luthman wrote:


 I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when


   you


  don't


 need 100s of megs it is a good option.

No personal experience with them though.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,


   however


   improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun 


   rons.wirel...@gmail.com


  wrote:


I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is
trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
about 20-30 mbps.


--


~Ron Calhoun
   KCnet Wireless Administrator






   


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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Cool!  Thank you for the input!

On 7/8/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
 Yes. I have personally done 60Mbps of actual traffic across a MT using 40mhz
 of spectrum (only going 1 mile with a -60 signal and using P4 systems on
 each end). I was also testing through the radio link, not using the actual
 radios themselves to test.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Josh Luthman wrote:

 Travis is right, 80mhz of spectrum (ya...)

 Are you saying you saw 60 megs on ONE 40mhz link?!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:



  That would be using two R52 cards on each side (so 80mhz of channel
 total). Using MT, the most I have seen using 40mhz channel size is
 60Mbps.

 Travis
 Microserv


 Josh Luthman wrote:

 FWIW someone in the School needs 100mbps thread mentioned they use 433
 and
 R52 to get 80-90 megs using 40mhz channels

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com
 rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:



  This LingoWave equipment is promising  true TCP throughput up to 70
 Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than $1k.
 40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo gear).



 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:


  If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20 to 30


  megs I


  would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat (figure


  $1k


  per side on the high end)

 I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac dishes.


   If


  you want my full parts list let me know.

 We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point and


  play.


  Had to say that before Dennis...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun rons.wirel...@gmail.com
 rons.wirel...@gmail.com

  wrote:


  I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles
 away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz gear
 along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman


  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com


  wrote:


  Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and you can


  get


  better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but terrible


  100k


  at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.

 For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual


   polarity


   5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
 problematic).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com
 dco...@infowest.com

   wrote:


   I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to
 consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or


   Tranzeo.


   Of course distance will be a factor with those.



 Josh Luthman wrote:


  I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when


you


   don't


  need 100s of megs it is a good option.

 No personal experience with them though.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,


however


improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun 


rons.wirel...@gmail.com


   wrote:


 I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales
 rep is
 trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
 anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
 I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
 about 20-30 mbps.


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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Scott Carullo
2 rb411 will yield same results

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x102

On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:

 Yes. I have personally done 60Mbps of actual traffic across a MT  
 using 40mhz of spectrum (only going 1 mile with a -60 signal and  
 using P4 systems on each end). I was also testing through the  
 radio link, not using the actual radios themselves to test.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Josh Luthman wrote:

 Travis is right, 80mhz of spectrum (ya...)

 Are you saying you saw 60 megs on ONE 40mhz link?!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:


  That would be using two R52 cards on each side (so 80mhz of channel
 total). Using MT, the most I have seen using 40mhz channel size is  
 60Mbps.

 Travis
 Microserv


 Josh Luthman wrote:

 FWIW someone in the School needs 100mbps thread mentioned they  
 use 433 and
 R52 to get 80-90 megs using 40mhz channels

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,  
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Ron Calhoun  
 rons.wirel...@gmail.com rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:



  This LingoWave equipment is promising  true TCP throughput up to 70
 Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than  
 $1k.
 40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo gear).



 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:


  If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20  
 to 30


  megs I


  would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat  
 (figure


  $1k


  per side on the high end)

 I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac  
 dishes.


   If


  you want my full parts list let me know.

 We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point and


  play.


  Had to say that before Dennis...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,  
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun  
 rons.wirel...@gmail.com rons.wirel...@gmail.com

  wrote:


  I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles
 away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz  
 gear
 along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman


  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com


  wrote:


  Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and  
 you can


  get


  better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but  
 terrible


  100k


  at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.

 For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual


   polarity


   5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
 problematic).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,  
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com 
 dco...@infowest.com 
 

   wrote:


   I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want  
 to
 consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or


   Tranzeo.


   Of course distance will be a factor with those.



 Josh Luthman wrote:


  I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when


you


   don't


  need 100s of megs it is a good option.

 No personal experience with them though.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,


however


improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun 


rons.wirel...@gmail.com


   wrote:


 I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and  
 my sales rep is
 trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does
 anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product?
 I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass
 about 20-30 mbps.


 --


 ~Ron Calhoun
KCnet Wireless Administrator






 
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Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
411/433 or 411ah/433ah?

60 megs sounds like a bit much for the non-AH boards, but I never tested.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:

 2 rb411 will yield same results

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 (321) 205-1100 x102

 On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:

  Yes. I have personally done 60Mbps of actual traffic across a MT
  using 40mhz of spectrum (only going 1 mile with a -60 signal and
  using P4 systems on each end). I was also testing through the
  radio link, not using the actual radios themselves to test.
 
  Travis
  Microserv
 
  Josh Luthman wrote:
 
  Travis is right, 80mhz of spectrum (ya...)
 
  Are you saying you saw 60 megs on ONE 40mhz link?!
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
 
 
   That would be using two R52 cards on each side (so 80mhz of channel
  total). Using MT, the most I have seen using 40mhz channel size is
  60Mbps.
 
  Travis
  Microserv
 
 
  Josh Luthman wrote:
 
  FWIW someone in the School needs 100mbps thread mentioned they
  use 433 and
  R52 to get 80-90 megs using 40mhz channels
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
  however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Ron Calhoun
  rons.wirel...@gmail.com rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   This LingoWave equipment is promising  true TCP throughput up to 70
  Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than
  $1k.
  40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo gear).
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
   j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:
 
 
   If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20
  to 30
 
 
   megs I
 
 
   would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat
  (figure
 
 
   $1k
 
 
   per side on the high end)
 
  I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac
  dishes.
 
 
If
 
 
   you want my full parts list let me know.
 
  We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point and
 
 
   play.
 
 
   Had to say that before Dennis...
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
  however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun
  rons.wirel...@gmail.com rons.wirel...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
 
 
   I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles
  away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz
  gear
  along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman
 
 
   j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
   Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and
  you can
 
 
   get
 
 
   better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but
  terrible
 
 
   100k
 
 
   at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.
 
  For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual
 
 
polarity
 
 
5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
  problematic).
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
  however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com 
 dco...@infowest.com
  
 
wrote:
 
 
I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want
  to
  consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or
 
 
Tranzeo.
 
 
Of course distance will be a factor with those.
 
 
 
  Josh Luthman wrote:
 
 
   I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when
 
 
 you
 
 
don't
 
 
   need 100s of megs it is a good option.
 
  No personal experience with them though.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 
 
 however
 
 
 improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ron Calhoun 
 
 
 rons.wirel...@gmail.com
 
 
wrote:
 
 

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Scott Carullo

The regular 411 will work fine, the limitation is not the processor.  But 
having said that, a little extra horsepower on a higher capacity link never 
hurt either ;)

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

 Original Message 
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:16 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23
 
 411/433 or 411ah/433ah?
 
 60 megs sounds like a bit much for the non-AH boards, but I never 
tested.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Scott Carullo 
sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:
 
  2 rb411 will yield same results
 
  Scott Carullo
  Brevard Wireless
  (321) 205-1100 x102
 
  On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
 
   Yes. I have personally done 60Mbps of actual traffic across a MT
   using 40mhz of spectrum (only going 1 mile with a -60 signal and
   using P4 systems on each end). I was also testing through the
   radio link, not using the actual radios themselves to test.
  
   Travis
   Microserv
  
   Josh Luthman wrote:
  
   Travis is right, 80mhz of spectrum (ya...)
  
   Are you saying you saw 60 megs on ONE 40mhz link?!
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, 
however
   improbable, must be the truth.
   --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net 
wrote:
  
  
That would be using two R52 cards on each side (so 80mhz of 
channel
   total). Using MT, the most I have seen using 40mhz channel size is
   60Mbps.
  
   Travis
   Microserv
  
  
   Josh Luthman wrote:
  
   FWIW someone in the School needs 100mbps thread mentioned they
   use 433 and
   R52 to get 80-90 megs using 40mhz channels
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
   however
   improbable, must be the truth.
   --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Ron Calhoun
   rons.wirel...@gmail.com rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
  
This LingoWave equipment is promising  true TCP throughput up to 
70
   Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than
   $1k.
   40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo 
gear).
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthman
  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
   wrote:
  
  
If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20
   to 30
  
  
megs I
  
  
would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat
   (figure
  
  
$1k
  
  
per side on the high end)
  
   I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac
   dishes.
  
  
 If
  
  
you want my full parts list let me know.
  
   We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point 
and
  
  
play.
  
  
Had to say that before Dennis...
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
   however
   improbable, must be the truth.
   --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun
   rons.wirel...@gmail.com rons.wirel...@gmail.com
  
wrote:
  
  
I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 
miles
   away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz
   gear
   along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.
  
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman
  
  
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  
  
wrote:
  
  
Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and
   you can
  
  
get
  
  
better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but
   terrible
  
  
100k
  
  
at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options.
  
   For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too.  I have two dual
  
  
 polarity
  
  
 5ghz links that work quite well (ospf bridging, nstreme dual was
   problematic).
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
   however
   improbable, must be the truth.
   --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com 

  dco...@infowest.com
   
  
 wrote:
  
  
 I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want
   to
   consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I agree.  I'd spend another $100 and get all that extra memory and CPU speed
in case I need to do whatever.  Once it's up there, it's pretty much up
there.  Rather spend and waste that $100 not needing it then need it having
to spend a lot of time, money and risk another climb!

PSA: BE SAFE!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:


 The regular 411 will work fine, the limitation is not the processor.  But
 having said that, a little extra horsepower on a higher capacity link never
 hurt either ;)

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102

  Original Message 
  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:16 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23
 
  411/433 or 411ah/433ah?
 
  60 megs sounds like a bit much for the non-AH boards, but I never
 tested.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Scott Carullo
 sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:
 
   2 rb411 will yield same results
  
   Scott Carullo
   Brevard Wireless
   (321) 205-1100 x102
  
   On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
  
Yes. I have personally done 60Mbps of actual traffic across a MT
using 40mhz of spectrum (only going 1 mile with a -60 signal and
using P4 systems on each end). I was also testing through the
radio link, not using the actual radios themselves to test.
   
Travis
Microserv
   
Josh Luthman wrote:
   
Travis is right, 80mhz of spectrum (ya...)
   
Are you saying you saw 60 megs on ONE 40mhz link?!
   
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
   
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
   
   
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
 wrote:
   
   
 That would be using two R52 cards on each side (so 80mhz of
 channel
total). Using MT, the most I have seen using 40mhz channel size is
60Mbps.
   
Travis
Microserv
   
   
Josh Luthman wrote:
   
FWIW someone in the School needs 100mbps thread mentioned they
use 433 and
R52 to get 80-90 megs using 40mhz channels
   
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
   
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
   
   
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Ron Calhoun
rons.wirel...@gmail.com rons.wirel...@gmail.com wrote:
   
   
   
 This LingoWave equipment is promising  true TCP throughput up to
 70
Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than
$1k.
40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo
 gear).
   
   
   
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthman
   j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
   
   
 If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20
to 30
   
   
 megs I
   
   
 would build a MikroTik kit myself.  Cost is really tough to beat
(figure
   
   
 $1k
   
   
 per side on the high end)
   
I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac
dishes.
   
   
  If
   
   
 you want my full parts list let me know.
   
We also know that Dennis builds and ships them so you just point
 and
   
   
 play.
   
   
 Had to say that before Dennis...
   
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
   
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
   
   
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ron Calhoun
rons.wirel...@gmail.com rons.wirel...@gmail.com
   
 wrote:
   
   
 I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4
 miles
away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz
gear
along with a canopy 5.2GHz link.
   
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman
   
   
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
   
   
 wrote:
   
   
 Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and
you can
   
   
 get
   
   
 better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile