Re: [WISPA] Optoisolator for Ethernet?

2010-03-15 Thread Jayson Baker
How weird.  We need exactly this too.  A building we're in that used to be
two, but were combined, and each have their own service drops.  There's a
difference in ground potential.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've seen a telephone (copper pair) optoisolator which had a short piece of
 fiberoptic cable inside. Each circuit on both sides of the cable had their
 own highly isolated power supplies. This was the only thing that worked in
 the Amazon region to stop phone equipment from getting wiped out during the
 intense electrical storms. The beauty of this device was it didn't require a
 first class ground system to work, in fact it didn't require any ground. A
 ground would just present up a difference in potential between the phone
 line and ground and encourage destruction. The telco side of this thing
 would just float at what ever potential the telco's lines were presenting
 and the on site equipment on the other side of this thing never saw that
 potential. Has anyone seen such a thing for Ethernet?

 Greg



 
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Re: [WISPA] Optoisolator for Ethernet?

2010-03-14 Thread Philip Dorr
We use two fiber transceivers and a jumper on our ethernet when we
want to have electrical isolation.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've seen a telephone (copper pair) optoisolator which had a short piece of 
 fiberoptic cable inside. Each circuit on both sides of the cable had their 
 own highly isolated power supplies. This was the only thing that worked in 
 the Amazon region to stop phone equipment from getting wiped out during the 
 intense electrical storms. The beauty of this device was it didn't require a 
 first class ground system to work, in fact it didn't require any ground. A 
 ground would just present up a difference in potential between the phone line 
 and ground and encourage destruction. The telco side of this thing would just 
 float at what ever potential the telco's lines were presenting and the on 
 site equipment on the other side of this thing never saw that potential. Has 
 anyone seen such a thing for Ethernet?

 Greg


 
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Re: [WISPA] Optoisolator for Ethernet?

2010-03-14 Thread Greg Ihnen
That sounds expensive. I wonder if that would help in where there's rf problems 
like at high power broadcast colo's

Greg

On Mar 14, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:

 We use two fiber transceivers and a jumper on our ethernet when we
 want to have electrical isolation.
 
 On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've seen a telephone (copper pair) optoisolator which had a short piece of 
 fiberoptic cable inside. Each circuit on both sides of the cable had their 
 own highly isolated power supplies. This was the only thing that worked in 
 the Amazon region to stop phone equipment from getting wiped out during the 
 intense electrical storms. The beauty of this device was it didn't require a 
 first class ground system to work, in fact it didn't require any ground. A 
 ground would just present up a difference in potential between the phone 
 line and ground and encourage destruction. The telco side of this thing 
 would just float at what ever potential the telco's lines were presenting 
 and the on site equipment on the other side of this thing never saw that 
 potential. Has anyone seen such a thing for Ethernet?
 
 Greg
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Optoisolator for Ethernet?

2010-03-14 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 14 March 2010 23:05, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

 That sounds expensive. I wonder if that would help in where there's rf
 problems like at high power broadcast colo's


Not terribly expensive.

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Re: [WISPA] Optoisolator for Ethernet?

2010-03-14 Thread Justin Wilson
We have done fiber to ethernet converters on FM towers.  The telephone
option you spoke of earlier was most likely DC powered which would be much
more isolation.

We do 1 FM tower where 100 meg ethernet would not link.  Had to have
power to power the ethernet to Fiber converter at top but it allowed for 100
meg transmission up the tower.

Justin
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From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com
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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:35:18 -0430
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Optoisolator for Ethernet?

That sounds expensive. I wonder if that would help in where there's rf
problems like at high power broadcast colo's

Greg

On Mar 14, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:

 We use two fiber transceivers and a jumper on our ethernet when we
 want to have electrical isolation.
 
 On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've seen a telephone (copper pair) optoisolator which had a short piece of
fiberoptic cable inside. Each circuit on both sides of the cable had their own
highly isolated power supplies. This was the only thing that worked in the
Amazon region to stop phone equipment from getting wiped out during the intense
electrical storms. The beauty of this device was it didn't require a first class
ground system to work, in fact it didn't require any ground. A ground would just
present up a difference in potential between the phone line and ground and
encourage destruction. The telco side of this thing would just float at what
ever potential the telco's lines were presenting and the on site equipment on
the other side of this thing never saw that potential. Has anyone seen such a
thing for Ethernet?
 
 Greg
 
 
 

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