Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-21 Thread chuck
Is there a way to see that Ares Ultra is being used? Or do you have to rely on them telling you they're using it after you notice them taking every available packet? I assume you could somewhat mitigate the problem by using a 'tik to provide a shaped bandwidth...full speed for 1 minute,

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-21 Thread Matt
We are looking at automagically throttling the bandwidth hogs back at peak times and letting them run normally otherwise. Seems like a good way to deal with it to keep your normal usage custommers happy and if your bandwidth hogs don't like it they can move to another ISP. Have not yet gotten

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-21 Thread chuck
The first fly in the ointment I see with the prevailing response from many WISPs (tell the 'hogs' to go elsewhere) is MDUs. Telling individual customers within an MDU to take a hike (even if you say it nicely) if you have an agreement with the MDU owner, could be a recipe for losing the MDU

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-21 Thread Matt
The first fly in the ointment I see with the prevailing response from many WISPs (tell the 'hogs' to go elsewhere) is MDUs. Telling individual customers within an MDU to take a hike (even if you say it nicely) if you have an agreement with the MDU owner, could be a recipe for losing the MDU

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-21 Thread George Rogato
MDU Multiple Dwelling Unit Matt wrote: The first fly in the ointment I see with the prevailing response from many WISPs (tell the 'hogs' to go elsewhere) is MDUs. Telling individual customers within an MDU to take a hike (even if you say it nicely) if you have an agreement with the MDU owner,

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-21 Thread chuck
At 2:05 PM -0500 3/21/07, Matt wrote: The first fly in the ointment I see with the prevailing response from many WISPs (tell the 'hogs' to go elsewhere) is MDUs. Telling individual customers within an MDU to take a hike (even if you say it nicely) if you have an agreement with the MDU owner,

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Carl A jeptha
The paid P2P is only for support on the software, it does not make it legit. go to the site and read what it says. No royalties are paid to anyone. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mark Nash

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
I've seen sites like Limewire that charge for using the program (with limewire facelift) to do unlimited downloads - Still Ilegal. Also I ran across a customer who did his homework signed up for the third most popular DVD download site, but it was still a Paid P2P scam!! On 3/20/07, Mark

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread David E. Smith
Mark Nash wrote: I had a customer tell me yesterday that he uses his Gnutella program to do unlimited downloads from a paid site. I've used the Mikrotik routers (p2p queue set to 64k) to block this and other programs, so it's not working now for the customer. I want to allow for paid

RE: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Mac Dearman
that. I do shape all P2P, but that is for self preservation! Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit? Mark Nash wrote: I had

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit? Mark Nash wrote: I had a customer tell me yesterday that he uses his Gnutella program to do unlimited downloads from a paid site. I've used the Mikrotik routers (p2p queue set to 64k) to block this and other programs, so it's not working

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Pete Davis
Ares Ultra costs the customer around $50 from what I hear. It ENCRYPTS the P2P traffic, and the Mikrotik will NOT recognize it as P2P traffic, so it will take EVERY AVAILABLE PACKET that your AP can push out. The way I have dealt with this is to disable the client (at the radio level) and when

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Pete Davis
Ares Ultra costs the customer around $50 from what I hear. It ENCRYPTS the P2P traffic, and the Mikrotik will NOT recognize it as P2P traffic, so it will take EVERY AVAILABLE PACKET that your AP can push out. The way I have dealt with this is to disable the client (at the radio level) and when

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
control usage, fine with me. I love my $35 accounts that actually pay $50 to $60 per month. grin marlon - Original Message - From: Pete Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit