Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-14 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Geeze, what about at 900mhz? won't the sun dry it back out? How do they
expect anyone to seal these connectors on the bottom of that antenna I shown
in the pics when the connector is barely sticking out far enough to screw
the N connector to it

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

bhahahahahahaha

n type connectors are NOT water proof!  They WILL get water into them.

What happens is the sun comes out and warms up the connector.  Then it rains

on it, quickly cooling the connector off.  That creates a vacuum inside the 
connector, sucking a bit of water inside.

I've literally seen mold growing inside connectors that weren't taped or 
taped right.

Try this.  Put your connection (use a toss away one) inside the dish washer.

Then toss it into the freezer.  Back to the dish washer, then set it in cold

water.  Then the oven, back to cold water.  Might use some salt water too, 
that'll speed up any corrosion.

If you get ANY water showing up in the connector you've got to do a better 
job of sealing it.

I just took down a competitor's tower site at a farmer who fired them. 
They didn't seal the connector at the top of the tower.  Water got into the 
coax and drifted 50' down the tower, into the box and rusted the amp that 
they were using at the bottom of the tower!

EVERYTHING outside needs to be sealed up at these frequencies.

Good luck!  grin
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Marco,

 I took your advice on the Polyphaser and came up with a way to put it on
 without adding extra coax. Just screwed the Poly directly to the antenna. 
 So
 it's grounded through the antenna mount itself. I sealed the bottom
 connection but not the top, I know, I probly should have but I was looking
 at the top connection and I see absolutely no way water can get into the
 center pin. Even if it starts to fill up in the connector it will quickly
 drain out of there before it fills up high enough to go over the wall to 
 get
 into the center connector. I tightened the top connector down pretty good
 with a wrench also so we'll see...

 BTW the zip ties are temporary! Forgot to grab two hose clamps and I'll be
 up tomorrow for the 900mhz AP and antenna and I'll get it then.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:56 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 I highly recommend them.  Even on DC grounded antennas.

 Especially when mounted to the top of a tower.

 Marco



 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com 
 wrote:
 Is it necessary to add Poly Phaser lightning arrestors on connectorized
 Canopy units? Even if they are mounted to the tippy top of tower with an
 Omni?



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com











 
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Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I hear ya Kurt.

Not sure about the 900mhz part.

In my mind the problem isn't only the moisture, it's also the corrosion that 
comes with it.  900 handles water better than 2.4 or 5 gig does, very true. 
But a corroded connector isn't going to work as well as a clean one.  And 
it's not like the old VHF days when we had tens or hundreds of watts to play 
with and only voice, that no one expected to sound perfectly, to transport.

Me?  I just don't buy devices that I can't weather seal.  I tell 
manufactures that all of the time.  I don't care if you can give me a $5.00 
radio that will deliver 200mbps to home users at 50 miles on the other side 
of a mountain, if I can't make it reliable I just can't use it these days. 
Internet is no longer a toy used for sending the occasional email and 
downloading one's favorite songs.

I've tried silicone in a situation like that but there is something inside 
it that will actually speed up the corrosion inside the connector.  So far 
the best thing I've found is to take the offending device to a machine shop 
and modify it.  And/or use jumpers so you've got more room to work with.

Have fun!
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Geeze, what about at 900mhz? won't the sun dry it back out? How do they
 expect anyone to seal these connectors on the bottom of that antenna I 
 shown
 in the pics when the connector is barely sticking out far enough to screw
 the N connector to it

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:15 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 bhahahahahahaha

 n type connectors are NOT water proof!  They WILL get water into them.

 What happens is the sun comes out and warms up the connector.  Then it 
 rains

 on it, quickly cooling the connector off.  That creates a vacuum inside 
 the
 connector, sucking a bit of water inside.

 I've literally seen mold growing inside connectors that weren't taped or
 taped right.

 Try this.  Put your connection (use a toss away one) inside the dish 
 washer.

 Then toss it into the freezer.  Back to the dish washer, then set it in 
 cold

 water.  Then the oven, back to cold water.  Might use some salt water too,
 that'll speed up any corrosion.

 If you get ANY water showing up in the connector you've got to do a better
 job of sealing it.

 I just took down a competitor's tower site at a farmer who fired them.
 They didn't seal the connector at the top of the tower.  Water got into 
 the
 coax and drifted 50' down the tower, into the box and rusted the amp that
 they were using at the bottom of the tower!

 EVERYTHING outside needs to be sealed up at these frequencies.

 Good luck!  grin
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Marco,

 I took your advice on the Polyphaser and came up with a way to put it on
 without adding extra coax. Just screwed the Poly directly to the antenna.
 So
 it's grounded through the antenna mount itself. I sealed the bottom
 connection but not the top, I know, I probly should have but I was 
 looking
 at the top connection and I see absolutely no way water can get into the
 center pin. Even if it starts to fill up in the connector it will quickly
 drain out of there before it fills up high enough to go over the wall to
 get
 into the center connector. I tightened the top connector down pretty good
 with a wrench also so we'll see...

 BTW the zip ties are temporary! Forgot to grab two hose clamps and I'll 
 be
 up tomorrow for the 900mhz AP and antenna and I'll get it then.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:56 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 I highly recommend them.  Even on DC grounded antennas.

 Especially when mounted to the top of a tower.

 Marco



 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 wrote:
 Is it necessary to add Poly Phaser lightning arrestors on connectorized
 Canopy units? Even if they are mounted to the tippy top of tower with an
 Omni?



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com










 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-14 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Hey never thought about the machine shop, that's a good idea.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

I hear ya Kurt.

Not sure about the 900mhz part.

In my mind the problem isn't only the moisture, it's also the corrosion that

comes with it.  900 handles water better than 2.4 or 5 gig does, very true. 
But a corroded connector isn't going to work as well as a clean one.  And 
it's not like the old VHF days when we had tens or hundreds of watts to play

with and only voice, that no one expected to sound perfectly, to transport.

Me?  I just don't buy devices that I can't weather seal.  I tell 
manufactures that all of the time.  I don't care if you can give me a $5.00 
radio that will deliver 200mbps to home users at 50 miles on the other side 
of a mountain, if I can't make it reliable I just can't use it these days. 
Internet is no longer a toy used for sending the occasional email and 
downloading one's favorite songs.

I've tried silicone in a situation like that but there is something inside 
it that will actually speed up the corrosion inside the connector.  So far 
the best thing I've found is to take the offending device to a machine shop 
and modify it.  And/or use jumpers so you've got more room to work with.

Have fun!
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Geeze, what about at 900mhz? won't the sun dry it back out? How do they
 expect anyone to seal these connectors on the bottom of that antenna I 
 shown
 in the pics when the connector is barely sticking out far enough to screw
 the N connector to it

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:15 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 bhahahahahahaha

 n type connectors are NOT water proof!  They WILL get water into them.

 What happens is the sun comes out and warms up the connector.  Then it 
 rains

 on it, quickly cooling the connector off.  That creates a vacuum inside 
 the
 connector, sucking a bit of water inside.

 I've literally seen mold growing inside connectors that weren't taped or
 taped right.

 Try this.  Put your connection (use a toss away one) inside the dish 
 washer.

 Then toss it into the freezer.  Back to the dish washer, then set it in 
 cold

 water.  Then the oven, back to cold water.  Might use some salt water too,
 that'll speed up any corrosion.

 If you get ANY water showing up in the connector you've got to do a better
 job of sealing it.

 I just took down a competitor's tower site at a farmer who fired them.
 They didn't seal the connector at the top of the tower.  Water got into 
 the
 coax and drifted 50' down the tower, into the box and rusted the amp that
 they were using at the bottom of the tower!

 EVERYTHING outside needs to be sealed up at these frequencies.

 Good luck!  grin
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Marco,

 I took your advice on the Polyphaser and came up with a way to put it on
 without adding extra coax. Just screwed the Poly directly to the antenna.
 So
 it's grounded through the antenna mount itself. I sealed the bottom
 connection but not the top, I know, I probly should have but I was 
 looking
 at the top connection and I see absolutely no way water can get into the
 center pin. Even if it starts to fill up in the connector it will quickly
 drain out of there before it fills up high enough to go over the wall to
 get
 into the center connector. I tightened the top connector down pretty good
 with a wrench also so we'll see...

 BTW the zip ties are temporary! Forgot to grab two hose clamps and I'll 
 be
 up tomorrow for the 900mhz AP and antenna and I'll get it then.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:56 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 I highly recommend them.  Even on DC grounded antennas.

 Especially when mounted to the top of a tower.

 Marco



 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 wrote:
 Is it necessary to add

Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-14 Thread Marco Coelho
I really have to agree with Marlon.  We used mastic, but abandoned it
after finding a better method.  Our approach:

From the Bottom:

Liberal coating of Scotchkote Electrical Coating (no 14853) on all
surfaces and especially between the joints.

Layer of Scotch Rubber Splicing tape No 23.  Stretch this to 1/2
thickness as you apply.  Always rap from the bottom up (like you roof
a house).

Slightly light coat of  Scotchkote Electrical Coating (no 14853) on
all surfaces and especially between the joints.

Layer of Scotch Rubber Splicing tape No 23.  Stretch this to 1/2
thickness as you apply.  Always rap from the bottom up (like you roof
a house).

Layer of cheep electrical tape to protect if from UV rays.

I've never had to open one of these because of moisture (we have hundreds).

Marco Coelho



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Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-13 Thread Marco Coelho
I highly recommend them.  Even on DC grounded antennas.

Especially when mounted to the top of a tower.

Marco



On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
 Is it necessary to add Poly Phaser lightning arrestors on connectorized
 Canopy units? Even if they are mounted to the tippy top of tower with an
 Omni?



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com








 
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Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
bhahahahahahaha

n type connectors are NOT water proof!  They WILL get water into them.

What happens is the sun comes out and warms up the connector.  Then it rains 
on it, quickly cooling the connector off.  That creates a vacuum inside the 
connector, sucking a bit of water inside.

I've literally seen mold growing inside connectors that weren't taped or 
taped right.

Try this.  Put your connection (use a toss away one) inside the dish washer. 
Then toss it into the freezer.  Back to the dish washer, then set it in cold 
water.  Then the oven, back to cold water.  Might use some salt water too, 
that'll speed up any corrosion.

If you get ANY water showing up in the connector you've got to do a better 
job of sealing it.

I just took down a competitor's tower site at a farmer who fired them. 
They didn't seal the connector at the top of the tower.  Water got into the 
coax and drifted 50' down the tower, into the box and rusted the amp that 
they were using at the bottom of the tower!

EVERYTHING outside needs to be sealed up at these frequencies.

Good luck!  grin
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Marco,

 I took your advice on the Polyphaser and came up with a way to put it on
 without adding extra coax. Just screwed the Poly directly to the antenna. 
 So
 it's grounded through the antenna mount itself. I sealed the bottom
 connection but not the top, I know, I probly should have but I was looking
 at the top connection and I see absolutely no way water can get into the
 center pin. Even if it starts to fill up in the connector it will quickly
 drain out of there before it fills up high enough to go over the wall to 
 get
 into the center connector. I tightened the top connector down pretty good
 with a wrench also so we'll see...

 BTW the zip ties are temporary! Forgot to grab two hose clamps and I'll be
 up tomorrow for the 900mhz AP and antenna and I'll get it then.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:56 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 I highly recommend them.  Even on DC grounded antennas.

 Especially when mounted to the top of a tower.

 Marco



 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com 
 wrote:
 Is it necessary to add Poly Phaser lightning arrestors on connectorized
 Canopy units? Even if they are mounted to the tippy top of tower with an
 Omni?



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com









 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Problem solved:
http://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-Coax-Seal-60/dp/B0002ZPINC

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Marlon K. Schafer 
o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:

 bhahahahahahaha

 n type connectors are NOT water proof!  They WILL get water into them.

 What happens is the sun comes out and warms up the connector.  Then it
 rains
 on it, quickly cooling the connector off.  That creates a vacuum inside the
 connector, sucking a bit of water inside.

 I've literally seen mold growing inside connectors that weren't taped or
 taped right.

 Try this.  Put your connection (use a toss away one) inside the dish
 washer.
 Then toss it into the freezer.  Back to the dish washer, then set it in
 cold
 water.  Then the oven, back to cold water.  Might use some salt water too,
 that'll speed up any corrosion.

 If you get ANY water showing up in the connector you've got to do a better
 job of sealing it.

 I just took down a competitor's tower site at a farmer who fired them.
 They didn't seal the connector at the top of the tower.  Water got into the
 coax and drifted 50' down the tower, into the box and rusted the amp that
 they were using at the bottom of the tower!

 EVERYTHING outside needs to be sealed up at these frequencies.

 Good luck!  grin
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


  Marco,
 
  I took your advice on the Polyphaser and came up with a way to put it on
  without adding extra coax. Just screwed the Poly directly to the antenna.
  So
  it's grounded through the antenna mount itself. I sealed the bottom
  connection but not the top, I know, I probly should have but I was
 looking
  at the top connection and I see absolutely no way water can get into the
  center pin. Even if it starts to fill up in the connector it will quickly
  drain out of there before it fills up high enough to go over the wall to
  get
  into the center connector. I tightened the top connector down pretty good
  with a wrench also so we'll see...
 
  BTW the zip ties are temporary! Forgot to grab two hose clamps and I'll
 be
  up tomorrow for the 900mhz AP and antenna and I'll get it then.
 
  Kurt Fankhauser
  WAVELINC
  P.O. Box 126
  Bucyrus, OH 44820
  419-562-6405
  www.wavelinc.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Marco Coelho
  Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:56 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy
 
  I highly recommend them.  Even on DC grounded antennas.
 
  Especially when mounted to the top of a tower.
 
  Marco
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
  wrote:
  Is it necessary to add Poly Phaser lightning arrestors on connectorized
  Canopy units? Even if they are mounted to the tippy top of tower with an
  Omni?
 
 
 
  Kurt Fankhauser
  WAVELINC
  P.O. Box 126
  Bucyrus, OH 44820
  419-562-6405
  www.wavelinc.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Basically the same thing we use here.
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=TVv_LdGtMYu7OY07OZ9Tfwvrfdv_IwUTfwUTfTT--

NEVER had a leak.
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


  Problem solved:
  http://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-Coax-Seal-60/dp/B0002ZPINC

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com 
wrote:

bhahahahahahaha

n type connectors are NOT water proof!  They WILL get water into them.

What happens is the sun comes out and warms up the connector.  Then it rains
on it, quickly cooling the connector off.  That creates a vacuum inside the
connector, sucking a bit of water inside.

I've literally seen mold growing inside connectors that weren't taped or
taped right.

Try this.  Put your connection (use a toss away one) inside the dish washer.
Then toss it into the freezer.  Back to the dish washer, then set it in cold
water.  Then the oven, back to cold water.  Might use some salt water too,
that'll speed up any corrosion.

If you get ANY water showing up in the connector you've got to do a better
job of sealing it.

I just took down a competitor's tower site at a farmer who fired them.
They didn't seal the connector at the top of the tower.  Water got into the
coax and drifted 50' down the tower, into the box and rusted the amp that
they were using at the bottom of the tower!

EVERYTHING outside needs to be sealed up at these frequencies.

Good luck!  grin
marlon


- Original Message -
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org

Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Marco,

 I took your advice on the Polyphaser and came up with a way to put it on
 without adding extra coax. Just screwed the Poly directly to the antenna.
 So
 it's grounded through the antenna mount itself. I sealed the bottom
 connection but not the top, I know, I probly should have but I was looking
 at the top connection and I see absolutely no way water can get into the
 center pin. Even if it starts to fill up in the connector it will quickly
 drain out of there before it fills up high enough to go over the wall to
 get
 into the center connector. I tightened the top connector down pretty good
 with a wrench also so we'll see...

 BTW the zip ties are temporary! Forgot to grab two hose clamps and I'll be
 up tomorrow for the 900mhz AP and antenna and I'll get it then.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:56 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 I highly recommend them.  Even on DC grounded antennas.

 Especially when mounted to the top of a tower.

 Marco



 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 wrote:
 Is it necessary to add Poly Phaser lightning arrestors on connectorized
 Canopy units? Even if they are mounted to the tippy top of tower with an
 Omni?



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com









 

 
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