:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
So it's 50 foot higher and 10 miles away...what angle is that?
On Oct 20, 2010 1:38 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote:
Come on Josh,
get a couple of land marks from Google Earth, that takes care of left and
right, and Google Earth tells you
When the weather goes bad we don't do outside work. Some times of the year
that gets to be a real issue.
But what I've found is that if we install gear when we can't see we too often
end up with something (trees etc.) in the way.
The other thing I've done is lay a stick or something like that
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*From:* Jim Patient mailto:sa...@jeffcosoho.com
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We hillbilly them up all the time
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*From:* Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
We hillbilly them up all the time and most of the time don't need to go
back to tower 1. Every once in a while we might
.
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From: Josh Luthman
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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
Am I the only one that uses Trigonometry for vertical alignment?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
Am I the only one that uses Trigonometry for vertical alignment?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
permail/wireless
: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
I just filled a printer page with trig figuring out hoe I'm going to place my
projector. There are more uses then people think.
On Oct 20, 2010 12:55 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
YES LOL
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:02 AM
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I just filled a printer page with trig figuring out hoe I'm going to place
my projector. There are more uses then people think.
On Oct 20
height, now it's just up or down from level, a few turns.
Google is your friend!
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Behalf Of Josh Luthman
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I
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
I just filled a printer page with trig figuring out hoe I'm going to
place
my projector
, 2010 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
So it's 50 foot higher and 10 miles away...what angle is that?
On Oct 20, 2010 1:38 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote:
Come on Josh,
get a couple of land marks from Google Earth, that takes care of left and
right, and Google
11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
So it's 50 foot higher and 10 miles away...what angle is that?
On Oct 20, 2010 1:38 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote:
Come on Josh,
get a couple of land marks from Google Earth, that takes care of left
What we just did this month for SAF Lumina:
Site 1, install it all
Site 2, install it all, align
Site 1, align
We did cheat (compared it to a 5Ghz dish that we are upgrading).
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010
Yeah that's what we do now. I'd like to save the 2nd trip to the first site. ;)
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From: Josh Luthman
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
What we just did this month for SAF Lumina
It looks like for around $150 you could get binoculars with a built in magnetic
compass that you see through the binoculars. Could you use the binoculars to
find an object on the horizon on the right azimuth and then point the dish
there?
Greg
On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Mark Nash wrote:
You would need more people then. You can't align the dish without both
radios being powered.
You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site. Both install at the same
time and they should finish around the same time frame. Align before coming
down at all.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
You also need to make sure that the software is taking into account magnetic
declination, or that you know what your declination is if it is giving
azimuth from true north. If you don't know what declination is, look it up.
Otherwise you'll be several degrees off.
Cameron
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at
1) Put the side up that's in town first and guestimate to the best of
your ability (if new frequency), align to another radio on tower if
already have similar freq.
2) Install remote and align to first radio
3) Back in town do final alignment of first radio.
Famous phone conversation with
, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
You would need more people then. You can't align the dish without both
radios being powered.
You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site. Both install at the same
time and they should finish around the same time frame
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
You would need more people then. You can't align the dish without both
radios being powered.
You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site. Both install at the same
AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
It looks like for around $150 you could get binoculars with a built in
magnetic compass that you see through the binoculars. Could you use the
binoculars to find an object on the horizon on the right azimuth and then point
the dish there?
Greg
You WILL be several degress off if you don't adjust for it on your compass.
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From: Cameron Crum
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
You also need to make sure that the software is taking
, and you end up spinning your wheels.
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From: Josh Luthman
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:34 AM
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That's not realistically possible. You would have to be extraordinarily
lucky to align that first
trip to the first tower.
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*From:* Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
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*Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
You would need more people
I just did a ptp install of 5g 2ft rocket dishs at 6.47 miles and
could not see either tower.
Now I already had a ptp link to another tower from tower 1 so this helped.
I used Google Earth to map out the points and then used the ruler to
connect each ptp link.
I took the map with me on tower
a
removable feed.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Josh Luthman
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
That's not realistically possible
I run up a 3 foot helium balloon and use a pair of binoculars.
Works every time.
NGL
From: Data Technology
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:06 AM
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I just did a ptp install of 5g 2ft rocket dishs at 6.47 miles and could
...@imaginenetworksllc.com
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You would need more people then. You can't align the dish without both
radios being powered.
You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site. Both
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I just did a ptp install of 5g 2ft rocket dishs at 6.47 miles and could not
see either tower.
Now I already had a ptp link to another tower from tower 1 so this helped.
I used Google Earth to map out the points and then used the ruler
feed.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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*From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
*To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
I just did a ptp install of 5g 2ft rocket dishs at 6.47 miles and
could not see either tower.
Now I already had a ptp link to another tower from tower 1 so this
helped.
I used Google Earth to map out the points and then used the ruler
:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
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*Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
That's not realistically possible. You would have to be extraordinarily
lucky to align that first dish without having any
...@imaginenetworksllc.com
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*Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
That's not realistically possible. You would have to be
extraordinarily lucky to align
Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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*From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
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That's not realistically
Yah.thought I was gonna see this a few days ago.grin
Brad
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:37 AM
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Mike, replying offlist
…grin
Brad
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:37 AM
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Mike, replying offlist...
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Mike
, but really only
works on the iPhone 4 -- the predecessor's compass wasn't accurate enough.
Kevin
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From: Chuck Hogg
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:43 AM
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The iphone has an app called wifi align
...@shelbybb.com
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
The iphone has an app called wifi align, and we have been using it with
pretty good results...can overlay your tower location via GPS onto your
camera view
Providing Broadband Internet Access to
California's Rural Central Valley
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
The iphone has
I temporarily install a sector in place of the dish on one side and use it
as a guide to get me the best signal from the other side. Then go back and
remove the sector and install the second dish. I can usually get it dead on
pretty quickly.
Bob-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
You would need more people then. You can't align the dish without both
radios being powered.
You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site. Both install
What about the lawn chair and b-b gun? Safety equipment is always
important.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of ~NGL~
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:13 PM
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I run up a 3
.
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *~NGL~
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:13 PM
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I run up a 3 foot helium balloon and use a pair of binoculars.
Works every time.
NGL
We hillbilly them up all the time and most of the time don't need
to go back to tower 1. Every once in a while we might have to go back
and tweak the alignment a little. I use Delorme Topo USA and a GPS
receiver on my laptop. Mark both locations and draw a line between the
towers. Zoom
Wow what an awesome range of responses.
What a value to WISPA, eh?
Thanks everyone! We've definitely improved our practices today...
Mark
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From: Jim Patient
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish
I've finder this for installs, but I use a tree line or if I'm lucky a
square building, land plot, silo, etc.
On Oct 19, 2010 6:03 PM, Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote:
We hillbilly them up all the time and most of the time don't need
to go back to tower 1. Every once in a while we might
, 2010 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
I've never put a dish up half together. I've always seen it done putting
everything together then hoisting it up.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Oct
on the dish, and
pre-calculate the downtilt.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Jim Patient
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
We hillbilly
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