Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Whats wrong with using XR5's and lowering the TX power on them? They are more rugged and have better RX sensitivity than many other

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test I'm curious to know if you're taking about transmit amps or receive amps. When you say noise are you meaning transmitted noise (meaning spectral impurity such as distortion, or do

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Well so far the only thing I've seen them good for is one card in running 2.4ghz and another card running 5.8ghz. Those won't interfere with each other

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test What's what we normally do... I almost never run an AP at it's full power. In fact these days I never do. Someday when I get bored I'll fire up the analyzer and see

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Greg, Excellent comments and questions... And My answer to you is. all of the above. Scott, And I agree

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Gino Villarini
So you are going with what? Rb433's or the rb600? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent:

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread David E. Smith
Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thoughts anyone? Out of idle curiosity, did you try testing with two cards on the same board, but with both cards and pigtails wrapped in foil, or otherwise insulated from one another? With the two cards just being an inch apart, I imagine you'd still have that nasty

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Scott Carullo
Thanks for the info but I'm not sure you can compare apples to apples because you had 3 separate units, not multiple radio boards in one RB. You should have used RB411s you would have saved money, power, heat and space. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
10:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test So you are going with what? Rb433's or the rb600? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Scott Carullo
Another quick note... if you have individual units why even mount them like this inside a larger box? Why not put individual RB411s in their own small box (say DCE 7x6x2) and put the box outside right under the antenna? Then you would have even more seperation and distribute you eggs a bit

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Gino Villarini
, April 29, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Another quick note... if you have individual units why even mount them like this inside a larger box? Why not put individual RB411s in their own small box (say DCE 7x6x2) and put

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Another quick note

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Scottie Arnett
I was wondering the same thing David. Scott -- Original Message -- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:42:30 -0500 Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thoughts anyone? Out of idle curiosity,

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
) examples all day long out here in the real world. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Kurt Fankhauser

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
7:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Another quick note... if you have individual units why even mount them like this inside a larger box? Why not put individual RB411s in their own small box (say DCE 7x6x2) and put the box outside right under

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Eje Gustafsson
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test We used to see that a lot in the old Lucent

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Jason Wallace
Also, some dummy loads can act as a poor antenna. Was this part of the experiment consistent both times? Maybe run some coax from the boxes separate directions and then attach the dummy loads? Scott Carullo wrote: Another quick note... if you have individual units why even mount them

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Dennis Burgess - LTI
Carullo Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Another quick note... if you have individual units why even mount them like this inside a larger box? Why not put individual RB411s in their own

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Date: 04/29/09 12:31 YOu getting good prices on that? * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org lt;http

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Date: 04/29/09 12:13 Also, some dummy loads can act as a poor antenna.nbsp

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Scott Carullo
, weighs less, and less loss. -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Exactly I you don't need long 10' coax lines Gino

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
The first question is why are the 4 mpci cards in teh RB600 seeing each other so loudly? There lies the problem needing fixed, because of course we want to use one RB433, instead of 3 RB433s, to accommodate 3 mpci cards. (even if different channels and freqs). First question to you... am I

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Also, some dummy loads can act as a poor antenna. Was this part of the experiment consistent both times? Maybe run some coax from the boxes separate directions and then attach the dummy loads? Scott

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Scott Carullo
How about just decreasing the xr5 power level to about 200mw I wouldn't put a cm9 on a tower or so Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Apr 29, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: The first question is why are the 4 mpci cards in teh RB600 seeing

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test How about just decreasing the xr5 power level to about 200mw I wouldn't put a cm9 on a tower or so Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Date: 04/29/09 16:41 Good point but. the problem went away when the mcpi cards each had their own SBC/Case, this would infer card to card or pigtail

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Date: 04/29/09 16:31 The first question is quot;why are the 4 mpci cards in teh RB600 seeing each other so loudlyquot;? There lies the problem needing fixed, because

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread George Rogato
Tom DeReggi wrote: Good point but. the problem went away when the mcpi cards each had their own SBC/Case, this would infer card to card or pigtail to pigtail interference, since in all cases the dummy load was outside the cases, from what it sounds like. I guess that should be

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test The RB600 was not in an indoor enclosure but just a normal outdoor enclosure. The radio's were all low power CM9 cards and they were seeing each other at -30's. -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
From: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Date: 04/29/09 16:31 The first question is quot;why are the 4 mpci cards in teh RB600 seeing each other so loudlyquot

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread .
- From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Whats wrong with using XR5's and lowering the TX power on them? They are more rugged and have better RX

Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

2009-04-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of . Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test I'm curious to know if you're taking about transmit amps or receive amps. When you say noise are you meaning