Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread RickG
at the lightning arrestors. Not sure how they could make a difference but that's the one thing that's unknown to me. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Hi, I

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread Michael Baird
Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:44:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread Josh Luthman
List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Hi, I have to agree with Gino here... even at 7 degree downtilt, you are cutting it very close. You may want to try 5 degrees on just one sector and see if that helps. Travis Michael Baird wrote

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation At the base, I see no signals except from my radios, with the spectrum analyzer

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
and needs to be replaced. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation On that note. Can lightning protectors go partially bad or are they like

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread Michael Baird
, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation At the base, I see

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread Michael Baird
and needs to be replaced. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation On that note. Can lightning protectors go partially bad

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Kurt, We are testing some of this at a different tower, where one of the AP's has flaked out

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread David Hulsebus
- From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Hi, I have to agree with Gino here... even at 7 degree downtilt, you are cutting it very close. You may want to try 5 degrees on just one sector and see

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation I've had the quarter waves that take multiple strikes go partially out in the past. Gas tubes have

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation I've had

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread David Hulsebus
, June 18, 2009 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation I've had the quarter waves that take multiple strikes go partially out in the past. Gas tubes have just blown. Dave RickG wrote: On that note. Can lightning protectors go partially bad or are they like

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation I've had

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread lakeland
: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Whats your life expectancy on those polyphasers? Their website states they are good for multiple strikes, but just wondering about the durability. etc,. -Israel David Hulsebus wrote: Same here, Polyphasers. No more gas tubes. I hate getting a call that I have

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread Michael Baird
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Whats your life expectancy on those polyphasers? Their website states they are good for multiple strikes, but just wondering about the durability. etc,. -Israel David Hulsebus wrote: Same here, Polyphasers

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread chris cooper
AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation I have been using this meter, http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=PM%2D2458eq=Tp= It checks forward power, reflected power, and will give you the SWR reading. Its been a lifesaver. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread David Hulsebus
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation I've had the quarter waves that take multiple strikes go partially out in the past. Gas tubes have just blown. Dave RickG wrote: On that note. Can lightning protectors go partially bad or are they like a fuse and either

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-18 Thread RickG
they could make a difference but that's the one thing that's unknown to me. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Hi, I have to agree with Gino here

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-17 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
happens. Have you, just for kicks, tried from closer or further than your customer base? marlon - Original Message - From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation My sector's

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-17 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
General List Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Hi, I have to agree with Gino here... even at 7 degree downtilt, you are cutting it very close. You may want to try 5 degrees on just one sector and see if that helps. Travis Michael Baird

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-16 Thread lakeland
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Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-16 Thread Michael Baird
improvement Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:44:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-16 Thread os10rules
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Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-16 Thread Michael Baird
Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:44:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-16 Thread os10rules
Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:44:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation WISPA Wants

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Baird
My sector's are Maxrad adjustable sector's horizontally polarized, adjusted to 120/13db, at 7.7 - 7.8 downtilt, trying to cover a 5 mile radius. Radios, are Ubiquity 400mw radio's, I've turned down to 23/200mw. CPE's, are Ubiquity PS2, same radio at 400mw, Horizontal antenna at 18 dbi. RSSI at

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Gino Villarini
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation My sector's are Maxrad adjustable sector's horizontally polarized, adjusted to 120/13db, at 7.7 - 7.8 downtilt, trying to cover a 5 mile radius. Radios

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Baird
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation My sector's are Maxrad adjustable sector's horizontally polarized, adjusted to 120/13db, at 7.7 - 7.8 downtilt, trying to cover a 5 mile radius. Radios, are Ubiquity 400mw radio's, I've turned

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Travis Johnson
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation My sector's are Maxrad adjustable sector's horizontally polarized, adjusted to 120/13db, at 7.7 - 7.8 downtilt, trying to cover a 5 mile radius. Radios, are Ubiquity 400mw radio's, I've turned down to 23/200mw. CPE's, are Ubiquity PS2, same radio at 400mw

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Baird
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation My sector's are Maxrad adjustable sector's horizontally polarized, adjusted

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Gino Villarini
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Gino, 145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5 miles. If my downtilt was wrong, I would think it would

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Baird
] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation My sector's are Maxrad adjustable sector's horizontally polarized, adjusted to 120/13db, at 7.7 - 7.8 downtilt, trying to cover a 5 mile radius. Radios

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Gino Villarini
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Gino, wisp-router.com, would the downtilt affect the AP RSSI level? Antenna Height ft Downtilt Angle

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Travis Johnson
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Gino, 145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5 miles. If my downtilt was wrong, I would think it would impact the receive on my

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Baird
Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Gino, 145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5 miles. If my downtilt was wrong, I would think it would impact the receive on my CPE's, much more then on the tower AP's, maybe

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Blair Davis
, 2009 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Gino, 145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5 miles. If my downtilt was wrong, I would think it would impact the receive on my CPE's, much more then on the tower AP's, maybe that's a poor assumption on my part though

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Baird
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Gino, 145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5 miles. If my downtilt was wrong, I would think it would impact the receive on my CPE's, much more then on the tower AP's, maybe that's a poor assumption on my part though

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Blair Davis
787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Gino, 145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5 miles

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation -20/-25 seems

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-14 Thread RickG
I've got one tower with a single client so I opted for a Bullet on it as an experiment. It works surprisingly well although I prefer all the bells whistles on a RB or WRAP. At any rate, I bet your right and its the lightning protector. I've had some strange issues with lightning protectors in the

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I don't think that this would be an antenna location issue. What antennas did you use and where are they pointed? Also, what output are the radios? If you use 600mw radios on the ap side and 100 mw radios on the rx side it'll make a difference. Also, having LOW power at the tx is almost

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-13 Thread mike
@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:13:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation Michael, A quick test would be to shut off the other two sectors and see if your AP RSL goes up. If it does, you may have answered your question regarding channel separation. -B

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-13 Thread lakeland
If there are adjacent channel rejection issues you can see degradation of the RSL level. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: m...@tc3net.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:24:09 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-13 Thread jp
What sort of ubiquiti APs? You'll have serious loss on anything but a bullet, and I wouldn't put one of them 145' up a tower. Also see that the firmware is up to date. They've had some issues misreporting signal in various versions. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 04:09:40PM -0400, m...@tc3net.com

Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Baird
Well I'm using BulletHP's, but I have them on other towers, and they work fine. I have the Ubiquity 3.4 firmware on them, it's not the radio's, not the antenna's, it's definitely something with this tower configuration. The only thing we did differently is use RFlinx Lightning arrestors