Re: [WISPA] Re: [Unlicensed_advocates] Of Potential interest

2005-08-03 Thread Scott Reed




I agree.  Continental is a tennant and has exclusive use of the space.  Don't see that as different that any other MTU.  And they are not wanting to receive the same signal that MASSPORT is sending out, they want their own, if I read it right.


Scott Reed 


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NewWays 


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From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: [Unlicensed_advocates] Of Potential interest 



 Some thoughts.. 
 
 

I agree that we should support Continental for the following reasons: 
 

 

The use of the wireless system used by Continental is constructed in  
 

space used exclusively by Continental and/or its agents, clients,  
 

employees and cannot be used by any others. As such it is not considered  

 

common in term. 
 
 

The system uses unlicensed spectrum which has, as we all know,  the  

 

usual You can't interfere with me...I can't interfere with you rules 
 
 

of Part 15. And they (Massport) cannot complain about interference to  
 

their operations without proving same is occuring. And if Continental is  

 

interfering with Massport's system, they should be contacting the  
 

Commission's Enforcement Bureau. Obviously that has not occured (to the  

 

best of our knowledge). The Commission already has type accepted the  
 

equipment in use and, as such, Massport cannot complain about health  

 

risks. 
 
 

The requirement to use the master antenna system would result in  
 

Continental's signal being broadcast all over the airport rather than  
 

the specific area required by Continental.  This leads to spectral waste  

 

by distributing Continental's signal all over Massport's facilities. In  

 

addition, there is now an increased chance of experiencing interference  

 

to Continental's operations as well as increased security risk as the  
 

signal is now more accessible over a larger area. 
 
 

No entity should have a right to restrict the use of RF spectrum that is  

 

presently governed by the Federal Communications Commission. While the  
 

pettition does not pertain to this matter directly, Continental's lease  

 

agreement with Massport reaks or attempts to coordinate 
frequency  
 

use.  An effort should be made to have the Commission admonish 
Massport  
 

for its attempts to perform a function for which they are not authorized  

 

under the Commission's rules. 
 
 

And finally...I dislike greedy landlords...The only reason they  

 

(Massport) are even making an issue is because there is more money at  
 

stake. And this is no different than paying a license fee or  

 

frequency coordination fee for which the Federal Communications  

 

Commission says there should be none. 
 
 

Maybe Continental could become the official WISPA air carrier after 
we  
 

reply...  :-D 
 
 

I'm sure I can come up with more but these are the main thoughts that  
 

come to mind. 
 
 

-B- 
 
 

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: 
 
 

 Thanks Harold! 
 

 
 

 Guys, it seems to me that we should jump in bed with Continental on  

 

 this issue.  This same rule would certainly apply to mesh type systems 
 
 

 or aps which have, thus far, not been covered under OTARD. 
 

 
 

 Thoughts? 
 

 Marlon 
 

 (509) 982-2181                  
                 Equipment sales 

 

 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                
    Consulting services 
 

 42846865 (icq)                  
                  And I run my own 
wisp! 
 

 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) 
 

 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless 
 

 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 - Original Message - From: Harold Feld 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

 To: Open Spectrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
Unlicensed  
 

 Advocates [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:42 PM 
 

 Subject: [Unlicensed_advocates] Of Potential interest 
 

 
 

 
 

 Released:  07/29/2005.  OET SEEKS COMMENT ON PETITION FROM 
CONTINENTAL 
 

 AIRLINES FOR DECLARATORY RULING REGARDING WHETHER CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS 

 

 ON ANTENNA INSTALLATION ARE PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE COMMISSION'S 
 

 OVER-THE-AIR RECEPTION DEVICES (OTARD) RULES. (DA No.  05-2213). 
(Dkt No 
 

 05-247). Comments Due:  08/29/2005. Reply Comments Due:  
09/13/2005. 
 

 OET. Contact:  Gary Thayer at (202) 418-2290 
 

 http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-05-2213A1.doc 

 

 http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-05-2213A1.pdf 

 

 http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-05-2213A1.txt 

 

 
 

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Re: [WISPA] Re: [Unlicensed_advocates] Of Potential interest

2005-08-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

That looks great!  Care to head up the submission of this to the FCC?

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: [Unlicensed_advocates] Of Potential interest



Some thoughts..

I agree that we should support Continental for the following reasons:

The use of the wireless system used by Continental is constructed in space 
used exclusively by Continental and/or its agents, clients, employees and 
cannot be used by any others. As such it is not considered common in 
term.


The system uses unlicensed spectrum which has, as we all know,  the usual 
You can't interfere with me...I can't interfere with you rules of Part 
15. And they (Massport) cannot complain about interference to their 
operations without proving same is occuring. And if Continental is 
interfering with Massport's system, they should be contacting the 
Commission's Enforcement Bureau. Obviously that has not occured (to the 
best of our knowledge). The Commission already has type accepted the 
equipment in use and, as such, Massport cannot complain about health 
risks.


The requirement to use the master antenna system would result in 
Continental's signal being broadcast all over the airport rather than the 
specific area required by Continental.  This leads to spectral waste by 
distributing Continental's signal all over Massport's facilities. In 
addition, there is now an increased chance of experiencing interference to 
Continental's operations as well as increased security risk as the signal 
is now more accessible over a larger area.


No entity should have a right to restrict the use of RF spectrum that is 
presently governed by the Federal Communications Commission. While the 
pettition does not pertain to this matter directly, Continental's lease 
agreement with Massport reaks or attempts to coordinate frequency use. 
An effort should be made to have the Commission admonish Massport for its 
attempts to perform a function for which they are not authorized under the 
Commission's rules.


And finally...I dislike greedy landlords...The only reason they 
(Massport) are even making an issue is because there is more money at 
stake. And this is no different than paying a license fee or frequency 
coordination fee for which the Federal Communications Commission says 
there should be none.


Maybe Continental could become the official WISPA air carrier after we 
reply...  :-D


I'm sure I can come up with more but these are the main thoughts that come 
to mind.


-B-




Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Thanks Harold!

Guys, it seems to me that we should jump in bed with Continental on this 
issue.  This same rule would certainly apply to mesh type systems or aps 
which have, thus far, not been covered under OTARD.


Thoughts?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Harold Feld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Open Spectrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Unlicensed Advocates 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: [Unlicensed_advocates] Of Potential interest



Released:  07/29/2005.  OET SEEKS COMMENT ON PETITION FROM CONTINENTAL
AIRLINES FOR DECLARATORY RULING REGARDING WHETHER CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS
ON ANTENNA INSTALLATION ARE PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE COMMISSION'S
OVER-THE-AIR RECEPTION DEVICES (OTARD) RULES. (DA No.  05-2213). (Dkt No
05-247). Comments Due:  08/29/2005. Reply Comments Due:  09/13/2005.
OET. Contact:  Gary Thayer at (202) 418-2290
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-05-2213A1.doc
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-05-2213A1.pdf
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-05-2213A1.txt

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