Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-26 Thread Matt Jenkins
Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-26 Thread 3-dB Networks
High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-26 Thread Matt Jenkins
] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers I have some media flex units here. They work REALLY well!!! If you have a house that a normal wireless router has trouble covering, this unit seems to do a much better job

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-24 Thread John Thomas
Cisco 851's run about $$300 and the 871's run about $450. John Thomas Travis Johnson wrote: I was hoping to find something a little more user friendly, as the company buying isn't real tech savvy. Something with a nice web gui and easy to understand settings. Travis Microserv Butch

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-23 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Charles Wyble
Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:13 AM, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. We buy

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread RickG
Thats the first thing I do, update the firmware. Sometime it helps but usually not. The darn things just are flaky! On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Jerry Richardson
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
, September 22, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Scottie Arnett
I agree with Jeromie on this. Everytime I run into a WRT54G/GS I load DDWRT on them. I have NEVER had a problem out of these home routers after doing that if they are setup correctly. Last I looked, they had many more coversions of home routers with athero's chipsets(DDWRT). I have even used

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Scottie Arnett
I already responded, but a bit late on this thread. I have a USB flash drive loaded with all flashes of DD-WRT that I carry all the time. Anytime I run into a WRT54g/ GL/ gs/ I have all DD-WRT firmware to zap them. Best thing since sliced bread if you ask me. Scott -- Original Message

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread RickG
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread RickG
I agree with that - power really sucks here. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what model/release your having issues with? Ive got a WRT54G with over a 150day uptime. I would say maybe 2% of my users have UPS's so every 10~14 days everything is

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Scottie Arnett
Replying to my own response...but since Wallyworld(Walmart) carries these, you might see many, many more of them. Scott -- Original Message -- From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date:

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Ruckus media flex are over $100. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats not under $100? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-21 Thread Charles Wyble
www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-21 Thread Travis Johnson
I was hoping to find something a little more "user friendly", as the company buying isn't real tech savvy. Something with a nice web gui and easy to understand settings. Travis Microserv Butch Evans wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: I'm looking for a

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: I was hoping to find something a little more user friendly, as the company buying isn't real tech savvy. Something with a nice web gui and easy to understand settings. Find the hardware platform and look at m0n0wall, Smoothwall, ClarkConnect and

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-21 Thread RickG
Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-21 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-20 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-20 Thread Mark Nash
-factor 5-9 port routers. - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: I'm looking

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-20 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers I very much wish there was a decent midrange router with this many ports for StarOS. There are several powerful boards

Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-20 Thread Mark Nash
We do this too but we also have needs for routers that are multi-port ethernet. - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers I use staros with up to 3

Re: [WISPA] Routers with DHCP Problems

2007-11-02 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
we've found transient power can reset DD-WRT on the buffalo APs. It only has to happen once to be a pain. Never saw this with openwrt based buffalos. My remote office runs on a generator that cuts over to inverters and causes power burps! I thought this problem was due to our setup, until I

Re: [WISPA] Routers with DHCP Problems

2007-11-01 Thread George Rogato
What do you use for your wireless cpe? Carl Shivers wrote: I recently bought a batch of Buffalo AirStations, which run WHR-HP-G54. Based upon recommendations, I also installed DD-WRT in order to improve the OS, I thought, and so I have functionality I wouldn't normally have, like SNMP.

Re: [WISPA] Routers with DHCP Problems

2007-11-01 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I have used many WHR HP's with openwrt and ddwrt and never had the dhcp server stop (some have 20PC's on them). I have v24 rc2 09/04/07 on most of them, iirc I went to RC3 about 2? 3? weeks ago. I would roll back to this version or one very close and see what happens. If the dhcp keeps going out I

Re: [WISPA] routers

2007-05-16 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Travis Johnson wrote: Does anyone have a source for generic 802.11b firewall/routers that are cheap? The last two places have run out of stock. Depends on what you mean by cheap and by firewall. For a router with real firewall capability you can go with Mikrotik RB133C

Re: [WISPA] routers

2007-05-16 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2007, Travis Johnson wrote: Does anyone have a source for generic 802.11b firewall/routers that are cheap? The last two places have run out of stock. Depends on what you mean by cheap and by firewall. For a router with real firewall

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-17 Thread RickG
' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Checkpoint has one for under $400 too. I forgot about that one. Dual wan with wireless. Kinda cool. I've not tried one yet, but did see them at ISPCon. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-14 Thread John J. Thomas
cdw.com carries the Cisco 851W for $379. John -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 08:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Checkpoint has one for under $400 too. I forgot about that one. Dual

RE: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-14 Thread Rick Smith
:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers cdw.com carries the Cisco 851W for $379. John -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 08:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Checkpoint has

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
! http://www.ispbuddy.com === - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Who has a lifetime warranty? KyWiFi LLC wrote: Yes, I'm serious

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-10 Thread Pete Davis
Trendnet has a 5 year warranty. Closer to lifetime than most. pd Peter R. wrote: Who has a lifetime warranty? KyWiFi LLC wrote: Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty. If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If their product is junk, then...

Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT

2007-02-09 Thread Jeromie Reeves
On 2/8/07, Brian Whigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:50 -0600, Matt wrote: What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is supported by OpenWRT? I'd almost guarantee it's the Buffalo WHR-G54S. I've only one so far. It's been at grandma's house doing a

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread Anthony R. Mattke
Where are you finding those boards for $22 a piece? -Tony cw wrote: We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I currently have over 2,000 Linksys routers installed... probably closer to 3,000. They have the same failure rate as every other brand we tried (Belkin, Netgear, Dlink). The big advantage for us is Linksys' RMA procedure is all online, and you can do 20 or 200 at a time. We save them up

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread Ross Cornett
AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Who has a lifetime warranty? KyWiFi LLC wrote: Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty. If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If their product is junk, then... Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread cw
Follow the link I pasted http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. Anthony R. Mattke wrote: Where are you finding those boards for $22 a piece? -Tony cw wrote: We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread Matt
We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff Those look like Netgear routers. We run PPPoE and have always had trouble

Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT

2007-02-08 Thread Matt
What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is supported by OpenWRT? http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware Matt Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread cw
Those _are_ Netgear routers. The thread was looking for consumer grade routers. All sub hundred dollar wireless routers are going to lose their way periodically and require power cycling. This particular router has Atheros chipset and it's priced for throw away so you don't have to waste more

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread Ron Wallace
Shannon, Who elsefor example offers a lifetime warranty? Ron Wallace -Original Message- From: KyWiFi LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 11:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime

Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT

2007-02-08 Thread Brian Whigham
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:50 -0600, Matt wrote: What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is supported by OpenWRT? I'd almost guarantee it's the Buffalo WHR-G54S. I've only one so far. It's been at grandma's house doing a 300' link in client mode. It's been installed almost

Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT

2007-02-08 Thread Matt
What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is supported by OpenWRT? I'd almost guarantee it's the Buffalo WHR-G54S. I've only one so far. It's been at grandma's house doing a 300' link in client mode. It's been installed almost a year now, without a hiccup (not even a

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread George Rogato
Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread Ross Cornett
, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread N.W.
When we used bridged CPEs, we installed TrendNet, Linksys, or Netgear routers. All of them have held up for about 4 years now. Several failures on the Netgears, which were the majority, but we also bought them in bulk and as refurbs. That's what is cheapest and appears to work well. We now

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world. However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread cw
We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff lasts the same length of time. Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread Travis Johnson
=== - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world. However another way to approach it might be, who has the best

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Imagestream has a great one that's under $600. Another $250 will get them to set it up for you as I understand it. MT routers are also nice. I just don't like the idea of using a PC out where I can't keep an eye on it. Fans go out etc. marlon - Original Message - From: Ross

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread KyWiFi LLC
=== - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world. However another way

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2006-04-17 Thread Tom Andrews
Jory,I am not a router tech, but we have 3 Imagestream routers in service here, 1 Gateway and 2 of the Rebels. I also have the main Imagestream office on my wireless network and host their server. We made the change to use Imagestream routers in 2000 and have not had any problems. The

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2006-04-14 Thread Bo Hamilton
Never used them but I hear they are very good. Bo On 4/14/06, Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the market for a new router and came across a company calledImageStream.From everything I can find that make a good product at a fair price.Has anyone ever used one of these or heard

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2006-04-14 Thread George
Bo Hamilton wrote: Never used them but I hear they are very good. Bo Same here. Isn't the owner on this list? George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2006-04-14 Thread Dawn DiPietro
I am not sure Jeff Broadwick is on this list but he is on the ISP-wireless list. George wrote: Bo Hamilton wrote: Never used them but I hear they are very good. Bo Same here. Isn't the owner on this list? George --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2006-04-14 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, Jory Privett wrote: I am in the market for a new router and came across a company called ImageStream. From everything I can find that make a good product at a fair price. Has anyone ever used one of these or heard anything about them?? I have used them. They are very