Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-26 Thread Matt Jenkins
I have some media flex units here. They work REALLY well!!! If you have 
a house that a normal wireless router has trouble covering, this unit 
seems to do a much better job.

RickG wrote:
 Ruckus media flex are over $100.
 
 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whats not under $100?

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice try but I said under $100 :)

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK  PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ruckus media flex

 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-ACCESS, INC
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Providing High Speed Broadband
 to Rural Central California
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

 Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
 all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
 providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
 it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
 browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
 you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
 asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
 Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
 far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

 -RickG

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-26 Thread 3-dB Networks
We just became a reseller for the ZoneFlex gear... it really impresses me
too!

Daniel White
3-dB Networks

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Jenkins
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

I have some media flex units here. They work REALLY well!!! If you have 
a house that a normal wireless router has trouble covering, this unit 
seems to do a much better job.

RickG wrote:
 Ruckus media flex are over $100.
 
 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Whats not under $100?

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice try but I said under $100 :)

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK  PROFITO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ruckus media flex

 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-ACCESS, INC
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Providing High Speed Broadband
 to Rural Central California
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

 Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
 all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
 providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
 it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
 browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
 you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
 asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
 Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
 far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

 -RickG

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco
ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv





 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-26 Thread Matt Jenkins
I wish there was an outdoor version that used 5.7 for inter-AP 
communication...

3-dB Networks wrote:
 We just became a reseller for the ZoneFlex gear... it really impresses me
 too!
 
 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Matt Jenkins
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:00 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers
 
 I have some media flex units here. They work REALLY well!!! If you have 
 a house that a normal wireless router has trouble covering, this unit 
 seems to do a much better job.
 
 RickG wrote:
 Ruckus media flex are over $100.

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Whats not under $100?

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice try but I said under $100 :)

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK  PROFITO
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ruckus media flex

 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-ACCESS, INC
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Providing High Speed Broadband
 to Rural Central California
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

 Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
 all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
 providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
 it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
 browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
 you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
 asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
 Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
 far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

 -RickG

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco
 ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-24 Thread John Thomas
Cisco 851's run about $$300 and the 871's run about $450.

John Thomas


Travis Johnson wrote:
 I was hoping to find something a little more user friendly, as the 
 company buying isn't real tech savvy. Something with a nice web gui 
 and easy to understand settings.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Butch Evans wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:

   
 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports 
 or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 
 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any 
 suggestions?
 

 Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose.  They 
 are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the 
 devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers.  ;-)  You can 
 get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power 
 you need to run good QOS management.  Another alternative, though 
 I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is 
 ImageStream.  They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of 
 tested package interactions.  VERY nice solution.

   
 



 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-23 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Netopia still makes routers with Ethernet WAN interfaces. I use the 
3386-ENT for the occasional customer who does not have their own 
firewall. So far they have been rock solid. Telnet only configuration. 
VPN, basic QoS, etc. is built in. They are $100 a pop. There is also a 
version with a wireless G radio built in, the 3387WG-ENT.

I like these things because they just work, have a good feature set, and 
are reasonably priced.

Patrick Shoemaker
President, Vector Data Systems LLC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.vectordatasystems.com


Tom DeReggi wrote:
 find one that works and keep it.
 
 Easier said then done, when distributers keep changing what hardware rev 
 they stock.
 Darn near impossible to keep it straight.
 
 We are doing our best to stay away from the 54G linksys AP's now because we 
 found that most of the models have problems with ARP over wireless.
 Symptoms like loosing connectivity for 30 seconds at at a time.
 
 We still use the higher end Linksys VPN routers, more often. They seem to be 
 more stable.
 
 But I have to say, finding stable low end routers is a challenge. We are 
 finding it more common that we end up using higher end Security appliances 
 instead.
 (sonic walls, Watch Guards, Fortigate, etc). But I would much prefer a true 
 router.
 
 I will say that Netopia used to make a Ethernet to Ethernet router that was 
 identical to their integrated DSL routers. Not sure if they still do.
 
 What I might suggest is keeping a look out for a low cost Layer3 switch. Not 
 quite cheap yet, but starting to get affordable.
 
 Intellinet has their OSPF capable layer2/3 switch (24 port 100baseT, 4 port 
 Gigabit, 8-16K of table space) for about $750.
 Netgear has their  12port OSPF capable layer3 switch for about $300. (only 
 can handle about 500 entries in its OSPF table, so just good for for end 
 user STUB type configurations).
 
 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Have you been changing the firmware on them?
 Ah yes I was going to mention that.
 The majority of the
 problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and
 lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed.
 Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability.
  Same for
 the 150/160N.
 What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the
 weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have
 bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love
 to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with.
 You need to TFTP the mini version, then the full version. V24 from the
 stable branch. I see that they have again redone the download
 structure. downloads, stable, v24SP1, Consumer, Linksys, WRT160N_v1. I
 do not know what has changed since the version ive been using is about
 3 months old. I find with ddrt like all other software, find one that
 works and keep it.


  The next largest issue is that they skimp on the
 hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have
 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well
 produced firmware.

 Exactly.

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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the
problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and
lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for
the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the
hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have
16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well
produced firmware.

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
 all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
 providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
 it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
 browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
 you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
 asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
 Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
 far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

 -RickG

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv


 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Charles Wyble
Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Have you been changing the firmware on them? 

Ah yes I was going to mention that.
 The majority of the
 problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and
 lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed.

Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability.
  Same for
 the 150/160N.

What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the 
weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have 
bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love 
to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with.
  The next largest issue is that they skimp on the
 hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have
 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well
 produced firmware.
   

Exactly.

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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Have you been changing the firmware on them?

 Ah yes I was going to mention that.
 The majority of the
 problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and
 lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed.

 Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability.
  Same for
 the 150/160N.

 What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the
 weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have
 bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love
 to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with.

You need to TFTP the mini version, then the full version. V24 from the
stable branch. I see that they have again redone the download
structure. downloads, stable, v24SP1, Consumer, Linksys, WRT160N_v1. I
do not know what has changed since the version ive been using is about
3 months old. I find with ddrt like all other software, find one that
works and keep it.


  The next largest issue is that they skimp on the
 hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have
 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well
 produced firmware.


 Exactly.

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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:13 AM, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the
 problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and
 lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed.

 We buy the Linksys WRT54GL (basically, the old/good WRT54G before they
 started taking out half the RAM and using a different, flakier
 processor), and it's pretty solid as-is. If you need special features or
 just have a customer you really like, flashing that router with
 something like DD-WRT makes it even better.

I manage all customer end routers. It keeps the 3am calls down a lot.


 Three or four years back, we were flashing WRT54Gs and using them as
 wireless client devices. Now that the firmware has improved (a lot), it
 might be worthwhile to revisit that notion. Configured properly, it's a
 decent wireless client radio (Broadcom chipset, I believe), with
 integrated NAT and a four-port switch, and can be had for under seventy
 bucks in small quantity. Since the radio is built-in, that's even
 cheaper than the low-end Mikrotik boards.

I have decided to move over to 100% 5ghz for network distribution and
leave 2.4 as client side networks. Because we manage them it helps to
stop from stepping on ourselves and from people dropping in
500mw/1watt amps with 7db duckies. Found more then a few of those and
quickly changed the setup. They make a great network extender and have
plenty of features. Now if only the PPtP worked with MT + UserManager.


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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread RickG
Thats the first thing I do, update the firmware. Sometime it helps but
usually not. The darn things just are flaky!

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the
 problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and
 lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for
 the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the
 hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have
 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well
 produced firmware.

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
 all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
 providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
 it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
 browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
 you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
 asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
 Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
 far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

 -RickG

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv


 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Whats not under $100?

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice try but I said under $100 :)

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK  PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ruckus media flex

 Chuck Profito
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

 Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
 all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
 providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
 it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
 browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
 you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
 asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
 Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
 far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

 -RickG

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Jerry Richardson
Good luck here with wrt54gl stock.

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-Original Message-
From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 1:33 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

Nice try but I said under $100 :)

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK  PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ruckus media flex

 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-ACCESS, INC
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Providing High Speed Broadband
 to Rural Central California
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

 Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
 all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
 providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
 it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
 browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
 you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
 asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
 Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
 far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

 -RickG

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
 find one that works and keep it.

Easier said then done, when distributers keep changing what hardware rev 
they stock.
Darn near impossible to keep it straight.

We are doing our best to stay away from the 54G linksys AP's now because we 
found that most of the models have problems with ARP over wireless.
Symptoms like loosing connectivity for 30 seconds at at a time.

We still use the higher end Linksys VPN routers, more often. They seem to be 
more stable.

But I have to say, finding stable low end routers is a challenge. We are 
finding it more common that we end up using higher end Security appliances 
instead.
(sonic walls, Watch Guards, Fortigate, etc). But I would much prefer a true 
router.

I will say that Netopia used to make a Ethernet to Ethernet router that was 
identical to their integrated DSL routers. Not sure if they still do.

What I might suggest is keeping a look out for a low cost Layer3 switch. Not 
quite cheap yet, but starting to get affordable.

Intellinet has their OSPF capable layer2/3 switch (24 port 100baseT, 4 port 
Gigabit, 8-16K of table space) for about $750.
Netgear has their  12port OSPF capable layer3 switch for about $300. (only 
can handle about 500 entries in its OSPF table, so just good for for end 
user STUB type configurations).

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers


 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Have you been changing the firmware on them?

 Ah yes I was going to mention that.
 The majority of the
 problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and
 lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed.

 Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability.
  Same for
 the 150/160N.

 What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the
 weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have
 bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love
 to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with.

 You need to TFTP the mini version, then the full version. V24 from the
 stable branch. I see that they have again redone the download
 structure. downloads, stable, v24SP1, Consumer, Linksys, WRT160N_v1. I
 do not know what has changed since the version ive been using is about
 3 months old. I find with ddrt like all other software, find one that
 works and keep it.


  The next largest issue is that they skimp on the
 hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have
 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well
 produced firmware.


 Exactly.

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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Scottie Arnett
I agree with Jeromie on this. Everytime I run into a WRT54G/GS I load DDWRT on 
them. I have NEVER had a problem out of these home routers after doing that if 
they are setup correctly. Last I looked, they had many more coversions of home 
routers with athero's chipsets(DDWRT). I have even used these for satellite 
AP's before...until the NS2's came along!

JM2CW,
Scott

-- Original Message --
From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:59:44 -0700

Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the
problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and
lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for
the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the
hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have
16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well
produced firmware.

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
 all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
 providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
 it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
 browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
 you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
 asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
 Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
 far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

 -RickG

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv


 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Scottie Arnett
I already responded, but a bit late on this thread. I have a USB flash drive 
loaded with all flashes of DD-WRT that I carry all the time. Anytime I run into 
a WRT54g/ GL/ gs/ I have all DD-WRT firmware to zap them. Best thing since 
sliced bread if you ask me.

Scott

-- Original Message --
From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:45:50 -0700

Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Have you been changing the firmware on them? 

Ah yes I was going to mention that.
 The majority of the
 problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and
 lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed.

Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability.
  Same for
 the 150/160N.

What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the 
weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have 
bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love 
to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with.
  The next largest issue is that they skimp on the
 hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have
 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well
 produced firmware.
   

Exactly.

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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread RickG
Ruckus media flex are over $100.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whats not under $100?

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice try but I said under $100 :)

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK  PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ruckus media flex

 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-ACCESS, INC
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Providing High Speed Broadband
 to Rural Central California
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

 Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
 all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
 providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
 it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
 browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
 you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
 asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
 Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
 far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

 -RickG

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

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 Microserv



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread RickG
I agree with that - power really sucks here.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wonder what model/release your having issues with? Ive got a WRT54G
 with over a 150day uptime. I would say maybe 2% of my users have UPS's
 so every 10~14 days everything is reset. Maybe the craptastic power
 out here is helping network stability with forced power cycling =-)

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:35 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thats the first thing I do, update the firmware. Sometime it helps but
 usually not. The darn things just are flaky!

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the
 problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and
 lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for
 the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the
 hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have
 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well
 produced firmware.

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
 all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
 providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
 it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
 browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
 you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
 asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
 Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
 far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

 -RickG

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv


 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread Scottie Arnett
Replying to my own response...but since Wallyworld(Walmart) carries these, you 
might see many, many more of them.

Scott

-- Original Message --
From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:31:22 -0500

I already responded, but a bit late on this thread. I have a USB flash drive 
loaded with all flashes of DD-WRT that I carry all the time. Anytime I run 
into a WRT54g/ GL/ gs/ I have all DD-WRT firmware to zap them. Best thing 
since sliced bread if you ask me.

Scott

-- Original Message --
From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date:  Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:45:50 -0700

Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Have you been changing the firmware on them? 

Ah yes I was going to mention that.
 The majority of the
 problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and
 lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed.

Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability.
  Same for
 the 150/160N.

What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the 
weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have 
bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love 
to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with.
  The next largest issue is that they skimp on the
 hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have
 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well
 produced firmware.
   

Exactly.

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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-22 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Yes, and Travis's original post is as follows:
I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or 
more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. 
Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?
thanks,  Travis, Microserv

B/G router, slices right through multipath, reads reflections, smart antenna
array, locks 2 or more antenna on client device, reads 45', vertical and
horizontal, high output for large homes and offices. Excellent for metal
buildings and brick homes. We sell standard wireless routers for $100
installed and encrypted, these for $200.
Travis, try one of these in a difficult spot, I'm sure you will like it.
$139.00

Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Providing High Speed Broadband 
to Rural Central California
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

Ruckus media flex are over $100.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Whats not under $100?

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice try but I said under $100 :)

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK  PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Ruckus media flex

 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-ACCESS, INC
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Providing High Speed Broadband
 to Rural Central California
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

 Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
 all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
 providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
 it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
 browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
 you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
 asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
 Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
 far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

 -RickG

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv





 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-21 Thread Charles Wyble
www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or 
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. 
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv


 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-21 Thread Travis Johnson




I was hoping to find something a little more "user friendly", as the
company buying isn't real tech savvy. Something with a nice web gui and
easy to understand settings.

Travis
Microserv

Butch Evans wrote:

  On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:

  
  
I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports 
or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 
Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any 
suggestions?

  
  
Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose.  They 
are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the 
devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers.  ;-)  You can 
get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power 
you need to run good QOS management.  Another alternative, though 
I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is 
ImageStream.  They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of 
tested package interactions.  VERY nice solution.

  






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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:

I was hoping to find something a little more user friendly, as 
the company buying isn't real tech savvy. Something with a nice web 
gui and easy to understand settings.

Find the hardware platform and look at m0n0wall, Smoothwall, 
ClarkConnect and ipCop.  Any of those are very good/easy to use. 
I'm forgetting how many ethernet ports you needed, but these 
software choices are all very nice AND easy.

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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-21 Thread RickG
Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

-RickG

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

 Travis
 Microserv


 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-21 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Ruckus media flex

Chuck Profito
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CV-ACCESS, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Providing High Speed Broadband 
to Rural Central California
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost
all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn
providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at
it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a
browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end,
you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job
asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N
Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so
far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck.

-RickG

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 www.routerboard.com might have some useful items.


 Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or
 more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA.
 Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions?

 thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-20 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:

I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports 
or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 
Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any 
suggestions?

Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose.  They 
are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the 
devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers.  ;-)  You can 
get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power 
you need to run good QOS management.  Another alternative, though 
I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is 
ImageStream.  They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of 
tested package interactions.  VERY nice solution.

-- 

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*Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS *
*573-276-2879   *ImageStream   *
*http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE   *
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-20 Thread Mark Nash
I very much wish there was a decent midrange router with this many ports for 
StarOS.  There are several powerful boards for wireless which we're 
extremely happy with, but multi-port routers are lacking.

Anyone who uses StarOS care to share what you use for Star 
routers...low-power small form-factor 5-9 port routers.

- Original Message - 
From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers


 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:

I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports
or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500
Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any
suggestions?

 Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose.  They
 are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the
 devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers.  ;-)  You can
 get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power
 you need to run good QOS management.  Another alternative, though
 I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is
 ImageStream.  They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of
 tested package interactions.  VERY nice solution.

 -- 
 
 *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation *
 *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS*
 *573-276-2879 *ImageStream   *
 *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE   *
 *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks*
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-20 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I use staros with up to 3 of their boards on one tower and then I run them
all into a switch at the bottom but my network is still routed because the 3
boards are not running any bridges.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

I very much wish there was a decent midrange router with this many ports for

StarOS.  There are several powerful boards for wireless which we're 
extremely happy with, but multi-port routers are lacking.

Anyone who uses StarOS care to share what you use for Star 
routers...low-power small form-factor 5-9 port routers.

- Original Message - 
From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers


 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:

I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports
or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500
Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any
suggestions?

 Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose.  They
 are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the
 devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers.  ;-)  You can
 get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power
 you need to run good QOS management.  Another alternative, though
 I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is
 ImageStream.  They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of
 tested package interactions.  VERY nice solution.

 -- 
 
 *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation *
 *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS*
 *573-276-2879 *ImageStream   *
 *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE   *
 *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks*
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-20 Thread Mark Nash
We do this too but we also have needs for routers that are multi-port 
ethernet.
- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers


I use staros with up to 3 of their boards on one tower and then I run them
 all into a switch at the bottom but my network is still routed because the 
 3
 boards are not running any bridges.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:00 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers

 I very much wish there was a decent midrange router with this many ports 
 for

 StarOS.  There are several powerful boards for wireless which we're
 extremely happy with, but multi-port routers are lacking.

 Anyone who uses StarOS care to share what you use for Star
 routers...low-power small form-factor 5-9 port routers.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 3:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers


 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:

I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports
or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500
Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any
suggestions?

 Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose.  They
 are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the
 devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers.  ;-)  You can
 get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power
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 I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is
 ImageStream.  They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of
 tested package interactions.  VERY nice solution.

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Re: [WISPA] Routers with DHCP Problems

2007-11-02 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
we've found transient power can reset DD-WRT on the buffalo APs.   It
only has to happen once to be a pain.  Never saw this with openwrt
based buffalos.  My remote office runs on a generator that cuts over
to inverters and causes power burps!  I thought this problem was due
to our setup, until I had a 35mile service call to a bus. customer
who's router reset!

On 11/1/07, Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recently bought a batch of Buffalo AirStations, which run WHR-HP-G54.
 Based upon recommendations, I also installed DD-WRT in order to improve the
 OS, I thought, and so I have functionality I wouldn't normally have, like
 SNMP.



 These are working fine except for one problem, on several, we have noticed
 that the DHCP server will simply stop giving out ip addresses. We are not
 sure why, but everything works fine after rebooting the router 1 or 2 times.
 Also, putting static private addresses in works as well after turning off
 DHCP.



 I need to know if there is a fairly good router out there that will handle
 DHCP and allows to use SNMP. I would like to have my cake and eat it too by
 keeping my costs under $70. These are used primarily for residential.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Routers with DHCP Problems

2007-11-01 Thread George Rogato

What do you use for your wireless cpe?


Carl Shivers wrote:

I recently bought a batch of Buffalo AirStations, which run WHR-HP-G54.
Based upon recommendations, I also installed DD-WRT in order to improve the
OS, I thought, and so I have functionality I wouldn't normally have, like
SNMP. 

 


These are working fine except for one problem, on several, we have noticed
that the DHCP server will simply stop giving out ip addresses. We are not
sure why, but everything works fine after rebooting the router 1 or 2 times.
Also, putting static private addresses in works as well after turning off
DHCP. 

 


I need to know if there is a fairly good router out there that will handle
DHCP and allows to use SNMP. I would like to have my cake and eat it too by
keeping my costs under $70. These are used primarily for residential. 





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Re: [WISPA] Routers with DHCP Problems

2007-11-01 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I have used many WHR HP's with openwrt and ddwrt and never had the
dhcp server stop (some have 20PC's on them). I have v24 rc2 09/04/07
on most of them, iirc I went to RC3 about 2? 3? weeks ago. I would
roll back to this version or one very close and see what happens. If
the dhcp keeps going out I would check for issues on that segment.

On 11/1/07, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What do you use for your wireless cpe?


 Carl Shivers wrote:
  I recently bought a batch of Buffalo AirStations, which run WHR-HP-G54.
  Based upon recommendations, I also installed DD-WRT in order to improve the
  OS, I thought, and so I have functionality I wouldn't normally have, like
  SNMP.
 
 
 
  These are working fine except for one problem, on several, we have noticed
  that the DHCP server will simply stop giving out ip addresses. We are not
  sure why, but everything works fine after rebooting the router 1 or 2 times.
  Also, putting static private addresses in works as well after turning off
  DHCP.
 
 
 
  I need to know if there is a fairly good router out there that will handle
  DHCP and allows to use SNMP. I would like to have my cake and eat it too by
  keeping my costs under $70. These are used primarily for residential.
 
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2007-05-16 Thread Butch Evans

On Wed, 16 May 2007, Travis Johnson wrote:

Does anyone have a source for generic 802.11b firewall/routers 
that are cheap? The last two places have run out of stock.


Depends on what you mean by cheap and by firewall.  For a router 
with real firewall capability you can go with Mikrotik RB133C at 
less than $100 with case, power supply and RouterOS.  If you want 
something cheap that is not really a firewall, then I've always 
liked the Trendnet routers available all over the place.


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Re: [WISPA] routers

2007-05-16 Thread Butch Evans

On Wed, 16 May 2007, Butch Evans wrote:


On Wed, 16 May 2007, Travis Johnson wrote:

Does anyone have a source for generic 802.11b firewall/routers 
that are cheap? The last two places have run out of stock.


Depends on what you mean by cheap and by firewall.  For a 
router with real firewall capability you can go with Mikrotik 
RB133C at less than $100 with case, power supply and RouterOS.  If 
you want something cheap that is not really a firewall, then 
I've always liked the Trendnet routers available all over the 
place.


Err that should be RB150 (not 133C).  The RB150 is 5 ethernet ports 
and no mini-pci.


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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-17 Thread RickG

Netopia is another very reliable router.
-RickG

On 2/15/07, John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

cdw.com carries the Cisco 851W for $379.

John



-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 08:27 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers

Checkpoint has one for under $400 too.  I forgot about that one.  Dual wan
with wireless.  Kinda cool.

I've not tried one yet, but did see them at ISPCon.

laters,
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non
existant... There has to be something out there that works...

 Thanks for the feedback.

 - Original Message -
 From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


 Ross Cornett wrote:
 Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line
 of router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys
 and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well.
 Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best?  I
 am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their
 lack of quality.  Your feedback is very welcome.


 Ross Cornett
 VP 217 342 6201 ex 7
 HofNet Communications, Inc.
 www.HofNet-Communications.com

 HofNet-Communications.com

 One more reason I use a cpe with built in router.

 I know your pain.

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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-14 Thread John J. Thomas
cdw.com carries the Cisco 851W for $379. 

John



-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 08:27 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers

Checkpoint has one for under $400 too.  I forgot about that one.  Dual wan 
with wireless.  Kinda cool.

I've not tried one yet, but did see them at ISPCon.

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non 
existant... There has to be something out there that works...

 Thanks for the feedback.

 - Original Message - 
 From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


 Ross Cornett wrote:
 Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line 
 of router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys 
 and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. 
 Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best?  I 
 am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their 
 lack of quality.  Your feedback is very welcome.


 Ross Cornett
 VP 217 342 6201 ex 7
 HofNet Communications, Inc.
 www.HofNet-Communications.com

 HofNet-Communications.com

 One more reason I use a cpe with built in router.

 I know your pain.

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RE: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-14 Thread Rick Smith

Trendnet.  Hands down.  I STILL thank JohnnyO for turning me on to them.

VERY reliable.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833156001



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John J. Thomas
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers

cdw.com carries the Cisco 851W for $379. 

John



-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 08:27 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers

Checkpoint has one for under $400 too.  I forgot about that one.  Dual wan 
with wireless.  Kinda cool.

I've not tried one yet, but did see them at ISPCon.

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non 
existant... There has to be something out there that works...

 Thanks for the feedback.

 - Original Message - 
 From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


 Ross Cornett wrote:
 Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line 
 of router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys 
 and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. 
 Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best?  I

 am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their

 lack of quality.  Your feedback is very welcome.


 Ross Cornett
 VP 217 342 6201 ex 7
 HofNet Communications, Inc.
 www.HofNet-Communications.com

 HofNet-Communications.com

 One more reason I use a cpe with built in router.

 I know your pain.

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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Belkin has a lifetime warranty. I am sure there are others,
if not, there should be.


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- Original Message - 
From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


Who has a lifetime warranty?


KyWiFi LLC wrote:

Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty.
If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If
their product is junk, then...


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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-10 Thread Pete Davis

Trendnet has a 5 year warranty. Closer to lifetime than most.

pd

Peter R. wrote:

Who has a lifetime warranty?


KyWiFi LLC wrote:


Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty.
If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If
their product is junk, then...


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Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT

2007-02-09 Thread Jeromie Reeves

On 2/8/07, Brian Whigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:50 -0600, Matt wrote:
 What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is
 supported by OpenWRT?

I'd almost guarantee it's the Buffalo WHR-G54S.  I've only one so far.
It's been at grandma's house doing a 300' link in client mode.  It's
been installed almost a year now, without a hiccup (not even a reboot as
far as I know).  Believe it or not, Grandma's picky.  And, I she's an
hour away so I needed something reliable.


WR850G, Very stable and in the $30~35 range. I have a number of WHR's
also and they are good as are the F5D's


It's practically the same hardware as the WRT-54G V1-4 (not the neutered
version 5).  It's only got one external antenna.  But, I'm using the
stock di-pole for the 300' window-to-window link.  I love it.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7666821st=whtype=productid=1134701703049

$45 (regularly $50)


WR850G is $30ish



And, check out http://www.dd-wrt.com

This is a GREAT hack of the linksys firmware.  Has PPTP, VLAN, QOS, SER
(VOIP), SSH, HTTPS, Samba, client mode, etc.  Great GUI and even skins.

If you find a cheaper product, let me know.

Brian


DDWRT v22/23 is based on OpenWRT. It supports everything DDWRT does
and far far more. You just need to compile it yourself (the best way)
and select what you need.



PS
DD-WRT can even be installed on Linksys WRT-54G v5+.  Here's the
hardware support list:
Linksys WRT54G 1.0 CDF0xxx or CDF1xxx
Linksys WRT54G 1.1 CDF2xxx or CDF3xxx
Linksys WRT54G 2.0 CDF5xxx
Linksys WRT54G 2.2 CDF7xxx
Linksys WRT54G 3.0 CDF8xxx
Linksys WRT54G 3.1 CDF9xxx
Linksys WRT54G 4.0 CDFAxxx
Linksys WRT54G 5.0 (JTAG only with cfe update, see here )
Linksys WRT54GL 1.0 CL7Axxx
Linksys WRT54GL 1.1 CL7Bxxx
Linksys WRT54GS 1.0 CGN0xxx or CGN1xxx
Linksys WRT54GS 1.1 CGN2xxx
Linksys WRT54GS 2.0 CGN3xxx
Linksys WRT54GS 2.1 CGN4xxx
Linksys WRT54GS 3.0 CGN5xxx
Linksys WRT54GS 4.0 CGN6xxx
Allnet ALL0277
Buffalo WHR-G54S
Buffalo WHR-HP-G54S
Buffalo WBR-G54
Buffalo WLA-G54
Buffalo WBR2-G54
Buffalo WBR2-G54S
Belkin F5D7130/7330 (2mb flash)
Belkin F5D7230-4 v1444 (2mb flash)
ASUS WL500G-Deluxe
Motorola WR850G
Siemens Gigaset SE505
Ravo W54-RT
Askey RT210W

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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread Anthony R. Mattke

Where are you finding those boards for $22 a piece?

-Tony

cw wrote:
We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine 
http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and 
are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade 
stuff lasts the same length of time.


Ross Cornett wrote:
Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line 
of router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys 
and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well.   
Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best?  
I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer 
their lack of quality.  Your feedback is very welcome.



Ross Cornett
VP 217 342 6201 ex 7
HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

HofNet-Communications.com



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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread Travis Johnson

Hi,

I currently have over 2,000 Linksys routers installed... probably closer 
to 3,000. They have the same failure rate as every other brand we tried 
(Belkin, Netgear, Dlink). The big advantage for us is Linksys' RMA 
procedure is all online, and you can do 20 or 200 at a time. We save 
them up for a month, and then RMA all of them back at the same time.


Our biggest problem with all of them is ANY amount of static on the WAN 
port will cause that port to go out. I'm not talking a huge lightning 
storm, I'm talking a very small amount of static in the air.


Travis
Microserv

Anthony R. Mattke wrote:

Where are you finding those boards for $22 a piece?

-Tony

cw wrote:
We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work 
fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros 
chipset and are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the 
consumer grade stuff lasts the same length of time.


Ross Cornett wrote:
Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best 
line of router out there for home and small business.  We have used 
linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up 
very well.   Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and 
what works best?  I am tired of replacing these things and 
explaining to the customer their lack of quality.  Your feedback is 
very welcome.



Ross Cornett
VP 217 342 6201 ex 7
HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

HofNet-Communications.com




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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread Ross Cornett
That is what I was looking for.  We all serve the same interest and that is 
customer satisfaction.  I did learn a great deal from you all providing me 
your feedback.  Our scenario has been been using bulk ordered refurbs.  We 
used to be all Linksys until we started seeing a high failure rate.  Power 
in this area is seems to be poor.  intermittent flickers cause a router to 
loose its config or completely slam it.  The customer never tells us it was 
due to power until we ask a few simple questions.  Then we realize we are 
being misinformed.  Moved to the netgears to see what they could do and 
started out with refurbs and now I believe we are paying for htat decision. 
I will once again consider the linkys and I will surely look into the 
belkin.  I have also been informed that motorola was putting out a good 
router, the BR700 but they are discontinued.  So, thank you to all that have 
provided me this feedback.


Ross Cornett
VP
217 342 6201 ex 7
HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

HofNet-Communications.com

- Original Message - 
From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers



Who has a lifetime warranty?


KyWiFi LLC wrote:


Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty.
If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If
their product is junk, then...


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KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread cw

Follow the link I pasted http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html.

Anthony R. Mattke wrote:

Where are you finding those boards for $22 a piece?

-Tony

cw wrote:

We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work 
fine http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset 
and are $22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer 
grade stuff lasts the same length of time.


Ross Cornett wrote:

Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best 
line of router out there for home and small business.  We have used 
linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very 
well.   Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what 
works best?  I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to 
the customer their lack of quality.  Your feedback is very welcome.



Ross Cornett
VP 217 342 6201 ex 7
HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread Matt

We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine
http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are
$22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff


Those look like Netgear routers.  We run PPPoE and have always had
trouble with Netgear routers requiring a reboot to reconnect if you do
something stupid like update the firmware on the Mikrotik PPPoE server
in the middle of the night.

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Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT

2007-02-08 Thread Matt

What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is
supported by OpenWRT?

http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware

Matt


Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of 
router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys and netgear 
and their broadband routers have not held up very well.   Anyone have any ideas 
as to what they are using and what works best?  I am tired of replacing these 
things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality.  Your feedback is 
very welcome.

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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread cw
Those _are_ Netgear routers. The thread was looking for consumer grade 
routers. All sub hundred dollar wireless routers are going to lose their way 
periodically and require power cycling. This particular router has Atheros 
chipset and it's priced for throw away so you don't have to waste more on 
RMA than the router is worth in the first place.


Matt wrote:

We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine
http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are
$22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade 
stuff



Those look like Netgear routers.  We run PPPoE and have always had
trouble with Netgear routers requiring a reboot to reconnect if you do
something stupid like update the firmware on the Mikrotik PPPoE server
in the middle of the night.

Matt

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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-08 Thread Ron Wallace
Shannon,
Who elsefor example offers a lifetime warranty? 
Ron Wallace

-Original Message-
From: KyWiFi LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 11:33 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers

Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty.
If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If
their product is junk, then...


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


Hi,

Are you serious? You honestly expect a company to honor a warranty for a 
lifetime, especially on a $30 item? How do you expect them to stay in 
business?

Travis
Microserv

KyWiFi LLC wrote:
 We use the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router exclusively and I'm
 proud to report that both us and our subscribers have been VERY
 pleased with them. We do, however, see a failure rate with them of
 around 8% - 10% BUT, they have been good about replacing them
 in a timely manner and have always honored their lifetime warranty.
 We buy them for $30 - $40 and retail them for $100. Here's a link:
 http://www.buy.com/prod/Belkin_F5D7230_4_Wireless_G_Router/q/loc/101/201978542.html

 I'm on a mission right now to align our company with manufacturers,
 vendors, etc. who offer and honor a lifetime warranty. If someone is
 only willing to stand behind their product for a year or two, you should
 question that, I know I do.


 Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
 KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
 Your Hometown Broadband Provider
 http://www.KyWiFi.com
 Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


 Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world.

 However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. 
 Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to 
 eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you 
 go through before allowing a return, which cost way more to do than the cost 
 to buy a new router. This is the BIG reason, that we have converted 50% of 
 all new installs to NON-Linksys routers. Linksys makes my favorite, Home 
 Router OS, but I can;t stomach giving all my money to those that don't honor 
 their warrantees. Belkin on the other hand has been fabulaous. No 
 questions asked, jsut send it back, and get a new one in a few days. Belkin 
 also has a nice Default portal page you can see before logining in to see 
 private info. Belkin comes with a bundled Content Control trial. Belkon can 
 opperate as an AP (Bridge) or Nat Router, and I think also WDS. The only 
 reason we don't use Belkin for all our installs is that Linksys is what our 
 local distributor carries, and because Belkin had some PPPOE bugs, which 
 prevented it from Auto-reconnecting after a disconnect, unless you reboot 
 it. So we still use Linksys for PPPOE clients. However that PPOE bug was 
 identified over a year ago, maybe its been fixed by now?

 The Belkin has a higher price tag unfortuneately, but it is a N router, 
 and I prefer to support the vendors that honor their warrantees.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:57 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Routers


 Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of 
 router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and 
 netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone 
 have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of 
 replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. 
 Your feedback is very welcome.


 Ross Cornett
 VP
 217 342 6201 ex 7
 HofNet Communications, Inc.
 www.HofNet-Communications.com

 HofNet-Communications.com
 
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Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT

2007-02-08 Thread Brian Whigham
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:50 -0600, Matt wrote:
 What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is
 supported by OpenWRT?

I'd almost guarantee it's the Buffalo WHR-G54S.  I've only one so far.
It's been at grandma's house doing a 300' link in client mode.  It's
been installed almost a year now, without a hiccup (not even a reboot as
far as I know).  Believe it or not, Grandma's picky.  And, I she's an
hour away so I needed something reliable.

It's practically the same hardware as the WRT-54G V1-4 (not the neutered
version 5).  It's only got one external antenna.  But, I'm using the
stock di-pole for the 300' window-to-window link.  I love it.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7666821st=whtype=productid=1134701703049

$45 (regularly $50)

And, check out http://www.dd-wrt.com

This is a GREAT hack of the linksys firmware.  Has PPTP, VLAN, QOS, SER
(VOIP), SSH, HTTPS, Samba, client mode, etc.  Great GUI and even skins.

If you find a cheaper product, let me know.

Brian


PS
DD-WRT can even be installed on Linksys WRT-54G v5+.  Here's the
hardware support list:
Linksys WRT54G 1.0 CDF0xxx or CDF1xxx 
Linksys WRT54G 1.1 CDF2xxx or CDF3xxx 
Linksys WRT54G 2.0 CDF5xxx 
Linksys WRT54G 2.2 CDF7xxx 
Linksys WRT54G 3.0 CDF8xxx 
Linksys WRT54G 3.1 CDF9xxx 
Linksys WRT54G 4.0 CDFAxxx 
Linksys WRT54G 5.0 (JTAG only with cfe update, see here ) 
Linksys WRT54GL 1.0 CL7Axxx 
Linksys WRT54GL 1.1 CL7Bxxx 
Linksys WRT54GS 1.0 CGN0xxx or CGN1xxx 
Linksys WRT54GS 1.1 CGN2xxx 
Linksys WRT54GS 2.0 CGN3xxx 
Linksys WRT54GS 2.1 CGN4xxx 
Linksys WRT54GS 3.0 CGN5xxx 
Linksys WRT54GS 4.0 CGN6xxx 
Allnet ALL0277 
Buffalo WHR-G54S 
Buffalo WHR-HP-G54S 
Buffalo WBR-G54 
Buffalo WLA-G54 
Buffalo WBR2-G54 
Buffalo WBR2-G54S 
Belkin F5D7130/7330 (2mb flash) 
Belkin F5D7230-4 v1444 (2mb flash) 
ASUS WL500G-Deluxe 
Motorola WR850G 
Siemens Gigaset SE505 
Ravo W54-RT 
Askey RT210W

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Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT

2007-02-08 Thread Matt

 What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is
 supported by OpenWRT?

I'd almost guarantee it's the Buffalo WHR-G54S.  I've only one so far.
It's been at grandma's house doing a 300' link in client mode.  It's
been installed almost a year now, without a hiccup (not even a reboot as
far as I know).  Believe it or not, Grandma's picky.  And, I she's an
hour away so I needed something reliable.

It's practically the same hardware as the WRT-54G V1-4 (not the neutered
version 5).  It's only got one external antenna.  But, I'm using the
stock di-pole for the 300' window-to-window link.  I love it.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7666821st=whtype=productid=1134701703049

$45 (regularly $50)


Its cheaper at Newegg.com.


And, check out http://www.dd-wrt.com


Thanks.

Matt


This is a GREAT hack of the linksys firmware.  Has PPTP, VLAN, QOS, SER
(VOIP), SSH, HTTPS, Samba, client mode, etc.  Great GUI and even skins.

If you find a cheaper product, let me know.

Brian


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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread George Rogato

Ross Cornett wrote:

Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of 
router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys and netgear 
and their broadband routers have not held up very well.   Anyone have any ideas 
as to what they are using and what works best?  I am tired of replacing these 
things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality.  Your feedback is 
very welcome.


Ross Cornett
VP 
217 342 6201 ex 7

HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

HofNet-Communications.com


One more reason I use a cpe with built in router.

I know your pain.

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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread Ross Cornett
I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non 
existant... There has to be something out there that works...


Thanks for the feedback.

- Original Message - 
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers



Ross Cornett wrote:
Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of 
router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys and 
netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well.   Anyone 
have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best?  I am tired 
of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of 
quality.  Your feedback is very welcome.



Ross Cornett
VP 217 342 6201 ex 7
HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

HofNet-Communications.com


One more reason I use a cpe with built in router.

I know your pain.

George
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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread N.W.
When we used bridged CPEs, we installed TrendNet, Linksys, or Netgear 
routers. All of them have held up for about 4 years now. Several 
failures on the Netgears, which were the majority, but we also bought 
them in bulk and as refurbs. That's what is cheapest and appears to work 
well. We now install CPEs that are also routers, so at most the clients 
need a desktop AP or switch in their home/office.


-Nick


Ross Cornett wrote:

Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of 
router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys and netgear 
and their broadband routers have not held up very well.   Anyone have any ideas 
as to what they are using and what works best?  I am tired of replacing these 
things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality.  Your feedback is 
very welcome.


Ross Cornett
VP 
217 342 6201 ex 7

HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

HofNet-Communications.com
  


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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread Tom DeReggi

Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world.

However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. 
Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to 
eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you 
go through before allowing a return, which cost way more to do than the cost 
to buy a new router.  This is the BIG reason, that we have converted 50% of 
all new installs to NON-Linksys routers.  Linksys makes my favorite, Home 
Router OS, but I can;t stomach giving all my money to those that don't honor 
their warrantees.  Belkin on the other hand has been fabulaous.  No 
questions asked, jsut send it back, and get a new one in a few days.  Belkin 
also has a nice Default portal page you can see before logining in to see 
private info.  Belkin comes with a bundled Content Control trial. Belkon can 
opperate as an AP (Bridge) or Nat Router, and I think also WDS.  The only 
reason we don't use Belkin for all our installs is that Linksys is what our 
local distributor carries, and because Belkin had some PPPOE bugs, which 
prevented it from Auto-reconnecting after a disconnect, unless you reboot 
it. So we still use Linksys for PPPOE clients.  However that PPOE bug was 
identified over a year ago, maybe its been fixed by now?


The Belkin has a higher price tag unfortuneately, but it is a N router, 
and I prefer to support the vendors that honor their warrantees.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:57 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Routers


Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of 
router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys and 
netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well.   Anyone 
have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best?  I am tired of 
replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. 
Your feedback is very welcome.



Ross Cornett
VP
217 342 6201 ex 7
HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

HofNet-Communications.com
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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread cw
We use WAR boards but if it's resi wireless LAN needed, these work fine 
http://www.pcbay.net/wgnewirowisu.html. They have Atheros chipset and are 
$22 delivered. Throw them away when they die. All the consumer grade stuff 
lasts the same length of time.


Ross Cornett wrote:

Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of 
router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys and netgear 
and their broadband routers have not held up very well.   Anyone have any ideas 
as to what they are using and what works best?  I am tired of replacing these 
things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality.  Your feedback is 
very welcome.


Ross Cornett
VP 
217 342 6201 ex 7

HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

HofNet-Communications.com

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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread Butch Evans

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Ross Cornett wrote:

Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best 
line of router out there for home and small business.  We have used 
linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up 
very well.  Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and 
what works best?  I am tired of replacing these things and 
explaining to the customer their lack of quality.  Your feedback is 
very welcome.


The answer to this question lies, at least in part, what you are 
wanting to accomplish.  Good low-end routers I've used include 
trendnet and Belkin.  I really like the Trendnet, as they are cheap 
and have been pretty reliable.  As someone else mentioned, the 
Belkin offers some nice features for the end user to see some data 
without having to divulge a password (so they can't mess up the 
config).  Also, the radio/router combo is very nice.  In fact, this 
is my preferred setup.  Deliberant has some good radios with built 
in router.  Wisp-router sells what I think they call CPE03 that has 
router functionality built in.


Beyond that, if you want higher end, Mikrotik now has a board (the 
RB150) that is a 5 Ethernet port board that runs about $70.  You 
would need to add about $20-30 for case and power supply, but for 
about $100, you'd have a VERY functional router.  Last I heard, the 
cases were scarce (or non-existent), however.


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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread Travis Johnson

Hi,

Are you serious? You honestly expect a company to honor a warranty for a 
lifetime, especially on a $30 item? How do you expect them to stay in 
business?


Travis
Microserv

KyWiFi LLC wrote:

We use the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router exclusively and I'm
proud to report that both us and our subscribers have been VERY
pleased with them. We do, however, see a failure rate with them of
around 8% - 10% BUT, they have been good about replacing them
in a timely manner and have always honored their lifetime warranty.
We buy them for $30 - $40 and retail them for $100. Here's a link:
http://www.buy.com/prod/Belkin_F5D7230_4_Wireless_G_Router/q/loc/101/201978542.html

I'm on a mission right now to align our company with manufacturers,
vendors, etc. who offer and honor a lifetime warranty. If someone is
only willing to stand behind their product for a year or two, you should
question that, I know I do.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world.

However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. 
Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to 
eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you 
go through before allowing a return, which cost way more to do than the cost 
to buy a new router.  This is the BIG reason, that we have converted 50% of 
all new installs to NON-Linksys routers.  Linksys makes my favorite, Home 
Router OS, but I can;t stomach giving all my money to those that don't honor 
their warrantees.  Belkin on the other hand has been fabulaous.  No 
questions asked, jsut send it back, and get a new one in a few days.  Belkin 
also has a nice Default portal page you can see before logining in to see 
private info.  Belkin comes with a bundled Content Control trial. Belkon can 
opperate as an AP (Bridge) or Nat Router, and I think also WDS.  The only 
reason we don't use Belkin for all our installs is that Linksys is what our 
local distributor carries, and because Belkin had some PPPOE bugs, which 
prevented it from Auto-reconnecting after a disconnect, unless you reboot 
it. So we still use Linksys for PPPOE clients.  However that PPOE bug was 
identified over a year ago, maybe its been fixed by now?


The Belkin has a higher price tag unfortuneately, but it is a N router, 
and I prefer to support the vendors that honor their warrantees.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:57 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Routers


Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of 
router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys and 
netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well.   Anyone 
have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best?  I am tired of 
replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. 
Your feedback is very welcome.



Ross Cornett
VP
217 342 6201 ex 7
HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Imagestream has a great one that's under $600.  Another $250 will get them 
to set it up for you as I understand it.


MT routers are also nice.  I just don't like the idea of using a PC out 
where I can't keep an eye on it.  Fans go out etc.


marlon

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To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:57 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Routers


Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of 
router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys and 
netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well.   Anyone 
have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best?  I am tired of 
replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. 
Your feedback is very welcome.



Ross Cornett
VP
217 342 6201 ex 7
HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

HofNet-Communications.com
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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-07 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty.
If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If
their product is junk, then...


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
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Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers


Hi,

Are you serious? You honestly expect a company to honor a warranty for a 
lifetime, especially on a $30 item? How do you expect them to stay in 
business?

Travis
Microserv

KyWiFi LLC wrote:
 We use the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router exclusively and I'm
 proud to report that both us and our subscribers have been VERY
 pleased with them. We do, however, see a failure rate with them of
 around 8% - 10% BUT, they have been good about replacing them
 in a timely manner and have always honored their lifetime warranty.
 We buy them for $30 - $40 and retail them for $100. Here's a link:
 http://www.buy.com/prod/Belkin_F5D7230_4_Wireless_G_Router/q/loc/101/201978542.html

 I'm on a mission right now to align our company with manufacturers,
 vendors, etc. who offer and honor a lifetime warranty. If someone is
 only willing to stand behind their product for a year or two, you should
 question that, I know I do.


 Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
 KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
 Your Hometown Broadband Provider
 http://www.KyWiFi.com
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 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:58 PM
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 Nothing. We have to deal with low quality in a commodity world.

 However another way to approach it might be, who has the best RMA policy. 
 Linksys's RMA policy is non-existent, and a provider needs to be prepared to 
 eat any failures. That comment is based on, the many hoops linksys makes you 
 go through before allowing a return, which cost way more to do than the cost 
 to buy a new router.  This is the BIG reason, that we have converted 50% of 
 all new installs to NON-Linksys routers.  Linksys makes my favorite, Home 
 Router OS, but I can;t stomach giving all my money to those that don't honor 
 their warrantees.  Belkin on the other hand has been fabulaous.  No 
 questions asked, jsut send it back, and get a new one in a few days.  Belkin 
 also has a nice Default portal page you can see before logining in to see 
 private info.  Belkin comes with a bundled Content Control trial. Belkon can 
 opperate as an AP (Bridge) or Nat Router, and I think also WDS.  The only 
 reason we don't use Belkin for all our installs is that Linksys is what our 
 local distributor carries, and because Belkin had some PPPOE bugs, which 
 prevented it from Auto-reconnecting after a disconnect, unless you reboot 
 it. So we still use Linksys for PPPOE clients.  However that PPOE bug was 
 identified over a year ago, maybe its been fixed by now?

 The Belkin has a higher price tag unfortuneately, but it is a N router, 
 and I prefer to support the vendors that honor their warrantees.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:57 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Routers


 Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of 
 router out there for home and small business.  We have used linksys and 
 netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well.   Anyone 
 have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best?  I am tired of 
 replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. 
 Your feedback is very welcome.


 Ross Cornett
 VP
 217 342 6201 ex 7
 HofNet Communications, Inc.
 www.HofNet-Communications.com

 HofNet-Communications.com
   
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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2006-04-17 Thread Tom Andrews



Jory,I am not a router tech, but we have 3 
Imagestream routers in service here, 1 Gateway and 2 of the Rebels. I also 
have the main Imagestream office on my wireless network and host their 
server. We made the change to use Imagestream routers in 2000 and have not 
had any problems. The support staff has done great things to help tweak my 
wired and wireless network. Their head of sales is Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I 
would recommend sending him an email and tell him what you need the router to do 
and he can work with getting you taken care of.

They have always 
been very good to me and the routers work like a charm.

Tom Andrews
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Friday, April 14, 2006 16:39Subject: [WISPA] RoutersI am in 
the market for a new router and came across a company called 
ImageStream. From everything I can find that make a good product at a 
 fair price. Has anyone ever used one of these or heard 
anything about them?? Jory Privett 
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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2006-04-14 Thread Bo Hamilton
Never used them but I hear they are very good.

Bo
On 4/14/06, Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am in the market for a new router and came across a company calledImageStream.From everything I can find that make a good product at a fair
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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2006-04-14 Thread George

Bo Hamilton wrote:

Never used them but I hear they are very good.
 
Bo


Same here.
Isn't the owner on this list?
George
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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2006-04-14 Thread Dawn DiPietro


I am not sure Jeff Broadwick is on this list but he is on the 
ISP-wireless list.



George wrote:


Bo Hamilton wrote:


Never used them but I hear they are very good.
 
Bo



Same here.
Isn't the owner on this list?
George



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Re: [WISPA] Routers

2006-04-14 Thread Butch Evans

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, Jory Privett wrote:

I am in the market for a new router and came across a company 
called ImageStream.  From everything I can find that make a good 
product at a fair price.  Has anyone ever used one of these or 
heard anything about them??


I have used them.  They are very stable, with TONs of functionality. 
What are you needing to do with the new router?  i.e. What kind of 
interfaces?


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