Wouldn't it be nice to get paid $4000 per AP install?
Expecially when the average cost of a WARboard and custom MESH software is less than $400 a unit, and can get installed in less than 4 hours.
And then on top of it, get another 1.5million a year, to pay your staff?

I don't know if its Earthlink or SanFrancisco that's footing the bill, but to the life of me, I can't understand while these companies are justifing using infalted priced name brand gear on these projects. Unless of course, its just FUD, quoting retail value to the governement, and not the REAL price they are getting the gear for.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Subject: [WISPA] S.F. nears WiFi deal


S.F. nears WiFi deal
By Sarah Jane Tribble
Mercury News

San Francisco's wait for citywide wireless is nearing an end, a city official said Thursday.

Chris Vein, director of the city's technology office, said he expects contract negotiations with the joint Google and Earthlink team that was awarded the nearly 50-square-mile project will end within the month. The city's board of supervisors should begin reviewing the contract in January and, if approved, installation will begin next year, he said.

``Certainly, this is taking a little longer than I had hoped,'' Vein said while speaking on a panel at the IEEE Globecom telecommunications conference held at the Fairmont Hotel this week. While not giving away details about the negotiations, Vein warned other communities to ``expect the unexpected'' when building a network.

Under the proposal, EarthLink -- one of the nation's largest Internet service providers -- will build and maintain the wireless network. Google plans to buy bandwith from Earthlink and then offer a free wireless service to residents.

Data transfer speeds for free access would hover around 300 kilobits per second, slower than most DSL connections but faster than dial-up. EarthLink also will sell a service for about $20 a month that would run at 1 megabit per second.

After a lengthy bid process, San Francisco officials awarded the contract to the Google and Earthlink team about six months ago. Negotiations have centered on the levels of service that will be offered as well as public policy issues such as ensuring all residents have access to the network, an Earthlink official said.

On Thursday, Earthlink's municipal network executive Cole Reinwand said the two sides planned to continue negotiations into today. Reinwand, who also oversees Earthlink's other wireless deployments, said he was missing the Philadelphia launch party Thursday night to talk with San Francisco officials.

``We are anxious to get this done,'' he said during a brief interview before Vein interrupted and asked him to hurry to negotiations.

San Francisco's project has been estimated to cost $6 million to $7 million to install, and $15 million for maintenance, billing and upgrades over the next 10 years. EarthLink would install about 1,500 radio transmitters -- made by Tropos Networks in Sunnyvale -- atop light poles across the city.

A Google spokeswoman said the company is not leading the negotiations and has not participated in all the meetings. Still, Google is ``hopeful'' negotiations will end soon.

Google, which launched a free wireless network in Mountain View in August, participates in these projects to learn about wireless and how people use it, Google product manager Larry Alder said during a conference presentation.

While Alder said he wasn't ``authorized'' to say how many people are using Mountain View's free network, he said the numbers far surpass anything the company expected.
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