Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-12 Thread Tom DeReggi

So what Power Supply has won your first pick approval?
(between 21-28V)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
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No, not 48V yet.  We are very happy with the current stuff, especially
since they handle 2 SR9 and 2 WLM54 cards.  Any power supply gets a
lot of testing by me before I commit to it.  I only change when there
is a good reason and simply because there is a new power supply is not
a good reason.

Lonnie

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Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
  We run from
 24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of
 charge and battery.
 Lonnie

Are the 533 boards rated for 48 volts yet?

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Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-12 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler

By power supply I am talking about the on board power supply.  My
first pick for external supply is solar charger to 24V batteries.

Lonnie

On 9/12/06, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So what Power Supply has won your first pick approval?
(between 21-28V)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance


 No, not 48V yet.  We are very happy with the current stuff, especially
 since they handle 2 SR9 and 2 WLM54 cards.  Any power supply gets a
 lot of testing by me before I commit to it.  I only change when there
 is a good reason and simply because there is a new power supply is not
 a good reason.

 Lonnie

 On 9/5/06, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
   We run from
  24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of
  charge and battery.
  Lonnie

 Are the 533 boards rated for 48 volts yet?

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Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-05 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
CW,

Did anyone offer their experiences on the SR9's as you asked below? Maybe I
missed them. :(

- Cliff


On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? If so,
 what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end?
 
 At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two is rock
 solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. At 1/4 of
 a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely
 associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've tried.
 
 A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac
 Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi to omni
 was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions.
 
 Thanks,
 
 cw
 
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Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-05 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler

We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet.  I do
not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable.  I can
say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing.
Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless
9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis.

Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios
in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots.  We run from
24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of
charge and battery.  With our tower locations I can hit the both
directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz.  Wer
figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both.
The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs.

I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a
few customers and let them beat on it.

Lonnie

On 9/5/06, Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

CW,

Did anyone offer their experiences on the SR9's as you asked below? Maybe I
missed them. :(

- Cliff


On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? If so,
 what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end?

 At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two is rock
 solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. At 1/4 of
 a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely
 associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've tried.

 A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac
 Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi to omni
 was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions.

 Thanks,

 cw

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Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-05 Thread cw
Thanks for the info, Lonnie. The coathangers came after we couldn't make 
PacWireless sector panels, omnis or yagis work. Four radios on one WAR4 
surprises me. Thought that was too much power consumption.


You're using yagis for the base station broadcast? Which one/s? Can anyone 
point me at documentation for yagi propagation?


I'll be real interested to see if you get any penetration at a mile or more. 
- cw


Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet.  I do
not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable.  I can
say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing.
Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless
9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis.

Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios
in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots.  We run from
24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of
charge and battery.  With our tower locations I can hit the both
directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz.  Wer
figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both.
The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs.

I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a
few customers and let them beat on it.


On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? 
If so, what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end?


 At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two 
is rock solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. 
At 1/4 of a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely
 associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've 
tried.


 A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac
 Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi 
to omni was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions.

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Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-05 Thread George Rogato
I've been holding off on the SR9's till I heard more and lonnie has had 
time to figure out what changes need to be made.


Also I'm waiting on pac wireless 900 rootennas to make life easy.

Sometimes it's better to wait.

George


cw wrote:
Thanks for the info, Lonnie. The coathangers came after we couldn't make 
PacWireless sector panels, omnis or yagis work. Four radios on one WAR4 
surprises me. Thought that was too much power consumption.


You're using yagis for the base station broadcast? Which one/s? Can 
anyone point me at documentation for yagi propagation?


I'll be real interested to see if you get any penetration at a mile or 
more. - cw


Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet.  I do
not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable.  I can
say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing.
Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless
9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis.

Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios
in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots.  We run from
24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of
charge and battery.  With our tower locations I can hit the both
directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz.  Wer
figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both.
The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs.

I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a
few customers and let them beat on it.


On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? 
If so, what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end?


 At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety 
two is rock solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for 
antennas. At 1/4 of a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg 
eighty-five barely
 associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've 
tried.


 A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac
 Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. 
Yagi to omni was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna 
suggestions.


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Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-05 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler

As I said we are using 9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis.  We are in test
mode so we are trying all of them for all locations so that we can
find the best combination for the task.

I am not at the point yet where I can give advice for which type to
use for a certain task.  There are still combinations to try as part
of our evaluation.

Lonnie


On 9/5/06, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for the info, Lonnie. The coathangers came after we couldn't make
PacWireless sector panels, omnis or yagis work. Four radios on one WAR4
surprises me. Thought that was too much power consumption.

You're using yagis for the base station broadcast? Which one/s? Can anyone
point me at documentation for yagi propagation?

I'll be real interested to see if you get any penetration at a mile or more.
- cw

Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
 We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet.  I do
 not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable.  I can
 say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing.
 Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless
 9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis.

 Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios
 in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots.  We run from
 24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of
 charge and battery.  With our tower locations I can hit the both
 directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz.  Wer
 figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both.
 The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs.

 I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a
 few customers and let them beat on it.

 On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards?
 If so, what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end?
 
  At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two
 is rock solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas.
 At 1/4 of a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely
  associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've
 tried.
 
  A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac
  Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi
 to omni was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions.
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RE: [WISPA] SR9 performance

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Smith



Someone mentioned that in their testing TX was in a 10 mhz 
channel and RX was 5 MHZ (or however you set)

Either way, it wasn't setting it for the same width baed on 
what you pick - i.e. it was 5/10 10/10 and 20/10mhz 
respectively.



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris 
  cooperSent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:02 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] 
  RouterBoard 112s
  
  
  Does anyone know how 
  much of the band you take up as you raise the raw data rate on the SR9s? Ie, 
  if I use 5 Mhz, what is the data rate, 10Mhz?
  
  Chris 
  Cooper
  Intelliwave
  
  I will be trying them as soon as the SR9 cards arrive..



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RE: [WISPA] SR9 performance

2006-05-18 Thread danlist








Here is the deal w/ the SR9



The DSP filter can listen on a 20mhz or
10mhz channel (RX), it can TX at 5mhz, 10mhz or 20mhz





The newer atheros chipsets can listen on a
5mhz channel, but the chipset doesnt have as good sensitivity as the 5213
chipset









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PM
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performance





Someone mentioned that in their testing TX
was in a 10 mhz channel and RX was 5 MHZ (or however you set)



Either way, it wasn't setting it for the
same width baed on what you pick - i.e. it was 5/10 10/10 and 20/10mhz
respectively.















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of chris cooper
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:02
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard
112s

Does anyone know how much of the band you
take up as you raise the raw data rate on the SR9s? Ie, if I use 5 Mhz, what is
the data rate, 10Mhz?



Chris Cooper

Intelliwave





I will be trying them as soon as the SR9 cards arrive..
















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Re: [WISPA] SR9 performance

2006-05-18 Thread rabbtux rabbtux

Did you folks finally get some SR9s to test?  How are your initial results

On 5/18/06, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Someone mentioned that in their testing TX was in a 10 mhz channel and RX
was 5 MHZ (or however you set)

Either way, it wasn't setting it for the same width baed on what you pick -
i.e. it was 5/10 10/10 and 20/10mhz respectively.




 
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Behalf Of chris cooper
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 112s





Does anyone know how much of the band you take up as you raise the raw data
rate on the SR9s? Ie, if I use 5 Mhz, what is the data rate, 10Mhz?



Chris Cooper

Intelliwave



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RE: [WISPA] SR9 performance

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Smith

Dan's got some.  I'm awaiting 6, but I hear I won't be getting them till
Mid-June. 

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Did you folks finally get some SR9s to test?  How are your initial
results

On 5/18/06, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Someone mentioned that in their testing TX was in a 10 mhz channel and

 RX was 5 MHZ (or however you set)

 Either way, it wasn't setting it for the same width baed on what you 
 pick - i.e. it was 5/10 10/10 and 20/10mhz respectively.




  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of chris cooper
 Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 112s





 Does anyone know how much of the band you take up as you raise the raw

 data rate on the SR9s? Ie, if I use 5 Mhz, what is the data rate,
10Mhz?



 Chris Cooper

 Intelliwave



  I will be trying them as soon as the SR9 cards arrive..







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