Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher




This is why I was asking more about pricing. I use these
http://www.demarctech.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_24_38products_id=147osCsid=24262290b45598f284b297f1cd496d87

and I buy them at $194 each. They come with mounting hardware, POE,
ethernet lightning protection and integrated ready to "hang". I am
always looking for something else, but I always end up determining
Demarc is the best. So, for a 250mw radio with 15 DBi antenna, I don't
see anything better out there. I really like the BW limiting at the
CPE. This is where upload is suppose to be limited.

Brian

Richard Strittmatter wrote:

  Hrm.
$145.18

I am paying around $160 for the Tranzeo CPE200-15 in qty 20 pricing.
Couple things that are missing from your quote is the assembly time, and
the POE injector.

One of the reasons we use the tranzeo's over the CB3 is assembly time
on the roof, and external cable connection, external led's, and since
they
are just a CB3 with custom firmware, they work just as well.  Their poe
also has a ground
drain wire ( notice I'm not saying surge supressor here.. )

R


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices elsewhere,
but Eje's usually seem to be in line.

2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24)
PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25) UML (Satellite Arm) =
$13.45

A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine.

They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any
problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It got
down to the teens last winter.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

  
  
Pete,
Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE?  Is this

  
  
  
  
outdoor, POE?  It is kind a "build your own"?
What temperatures is this operation in?

Brian

George wrote:



  Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:

  
  
I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but 
at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k 
more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for

  

  
  
  
  

  
less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED].

I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net

  
  

Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500
+/- of them.
And they have a 200MW version.
But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders.

The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so.

But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version 
and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s 
and unstable units.

Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe.
I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned.

George
  



  
  
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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-27 Thread A. Huppenthal

have you compared with the Tranzeo product?

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

This is why I was asking more about pricing.  I use these 
http://www.demarctech.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_24_38products_id=147osCsid=24262290b45598f284b297f1cd496d87 

and I buy them at $194 each.  They come with mounting hardware, POE, 
ethernet lightning protection and integrated ready to hang.  I am 
always looking for something else, but I always end up determining 
Demarc is the best.  So, for a 250mw radio with 15 DBi antenna, I 
don't see anything better out there.  I really like the BW limiting at 
the CPE.  This is where upload is suppose to be limited.


Brian

Richard Strittmatter wrote:


Hrm.
$145.18

I am paying around $160 for the Tranzeo CPE200-15 in qty 20 pricing.
Couple things that are missing from your quote is the assembly time, and
the POE injector.

One of the reasons we use the tranzeo's over the CB3 is assembly time
on the roof, and external cable connection, external led's, and since
they
are just a CB3 with custom firmware, they work just as well.  Their poe
also has a ground
drain wire ( notice I'm not saying surge supressor here.. )

R


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pete Davis. NoDial.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices elsewhere,
but Eje's usually seem to be in line.

2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24)
PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25) UML (Satellite Arm) =
$13.45

A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine.

They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any
problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It got
down to the teens last winter.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 


Pete,
Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE?  Is this
   



 


outdoor, POE?  It is kind a build your own?
What temperatures is this operation in?

Brian

George wrote:

   


Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:

 

I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but 
at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k 
more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for
   



 


less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net
   


Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500
+/- of them.
And they have a 200MW version.
But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders.

The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so.

But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version 
and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s 
and unstable units.


Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe.
I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned.

George
 

   



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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

Yes, no BW management.

A. Huppenthal wrote:


have you compared with the Tranzeo product?

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

This is why I was asking more about pricing.  I use these 
http://www.demarctech.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_24_38products_id=147osCsid=24262290b45598f284b297f1cd496d87 

and I buy them at $194 each.  They come with mounting hardware, POE, 
ethernet lightning protection and integrated ready to hang.  I am 
always looking for something else, but I always end up determining 
Demarc is the best.  So, for a 250mw radio with 15 DBi antenna, I 
don't see anything better out there.  I really like the BW limiting 
at the CPE.  This is where upload is suppose to be limited.


Brian

Richard Strittmatter wrote:


Hrm.
$145.18

I am paying around $160 for the Tranzeo CPE200-15 in qty 20 pricing.
Couple things that are missing from your quote is the assembly time, 
and

the POE injector.

One of the reasons we use the tranzeo's over the CB3 is assembly time
on the roof, and external cable connection, external led's, and since
they
are just a CB3 with custom firmware, they work just as well.  Their poe
also has a ground
drain wire ( notice I'm not saying surge supressor here.. )

R


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pete Davis. NoDial.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices elsewhere,
but Eje's usually seem to be in line.

2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24)
PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25) UML (Satellite Arm) =
$13.45

A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine.

They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any
problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It got
down to the teens last winter.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 


Pete,
Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE?  Is this
  



 


outdoor, POE?  It is kind a build your own?
What temperatures is this operation in?

Brian

George wrote:

  


Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:



I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, 
but at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me 
$20k more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE 
client for
  




 


less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net
  


Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500
+/- of them.
And they have a 200MW version.
But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders.

The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so.

But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only 
version and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot 
of doa''s and unstable units.


Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe.
I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned.

George



  



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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

And no ethernet surge suppression.

A. Huppenthal wrote:


have you compared with the Tranzeo product?

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

This is why I was asking more about pricing.  I use these 
http://www.demarctech.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_24_38products_id=147osCsid=24262290b45598f284b297f1cd496d87 

and I buy them at $194 each.  They come with mounting hardware, POE, 
ethernet lightning protection and integrated ready to hang.  I am 
always looking for something else, but I always end up determining 
Demarc is the best.  So, for a 250mw radio with 15 DBi antenna, I 
don't see anything better out there.  I really like the BW limiting 
at the CPE.  This is where upload is suppose to be limited.


Brian

Richard Strittmatter wrote:


Hrm.
$145.18

I am paying around $160 for the Tranzeo CPE200-15 in qty 20 pricing.
Couple things that are missing from your quote is the assembly time, 
and

the POE injector.

One of the reasons we use the tranzeo's over the CB3 is assembly time
on the roof, and external cable connection, external led's, and since
they
are just a CB3 with custom firmware, they work just as well.  Their poe
also has a ground
drain wire ( notice I'm not saying surge supressor here.. )

R


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pete Davis. NoDial.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices elsewhere,
but Eje's usually seem to be in line.

2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24)
PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25) UML (Satellite Arm) =
$13.45

A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine.

They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any
problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It got
down to the teens last winter.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 


Pete,
Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE?  Is this
  



 


outdoor, POE?  It is kind a build your own?
What temperatures is this operation in?

Brian

George wrote:

  


Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:



I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, 
but at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me 
$20k more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE 
client for
  




 


less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net
  


Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500
+/- of them.
And they have a 200MW version.
But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders.

The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so.

But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only 
version and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot 
of doa''s and unstable units.


Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe.
I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned.

George



  



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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-26 Thread Jason

Thanks Pete,

   This is what I was looking for. 


Jason

Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:

What I have experienced is that 30% or better is usually a solid 
signal quality. 15% or better is usually a solid signal strength. I 
have never figured out a % to dbm translation.
The web-only non-snmp interface is my least favorite thing about 2611 
CB3 Deluxes.


My most favorite thing about them is the price. 2611's inside 
rootennas are my typical installation. With all hardware and mounting 
brackets, masts, etc, I am laying out less than $200 per install, and 
paying the installer contractor $125..
I have around 200 deployed like what you are describing.  I have 
almost 100 more clients with different CPE.


I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but at 
$100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k more. 
If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for less 
than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


A note of caution/education to pass along to anyone implementing the 
rootenna/cb3 combination:
If the rootenna is one of the revisions that doesn't have a grounding 
clip to pull out [to make contact with the back bracket] put in a 
ground wire from the front to the back, and ground the pole. 
Un-Grounded, the static discharge from a nearby lightning will often 
leave the 2511 radio card [inside the 2611 bridge] in a in-sensitive 
state.


I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net


Jason wrote:


Guys ( gals),

   Has anyone worked with the Senao 2611 Deluxe Plus/Rootenna combo?  
How do you interpret the Communications Quality % and the Signal 
Strength % values?  What are some typical numbers that you like to 
see/know will work (maybe break it down by thru-put)?  Right now I 
have an 8 mile link with 28% quality and 16% signal strength.  It's 
sticking to 11Mbits/sec, but I have no way to test the throughput at 
the moment.


Jason





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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-26 Thread Dylan Oliver
Pete,

Where do you buy these EZ-Y bridges?-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-26 Thread George

Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:


I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but at 
$100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k more. If 
anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for less than 
$150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net


Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500 +/- 
of them.

And they have a 200MW version.
But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders.

The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so.

But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version and 
not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s and 
unstable units.


Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe.
I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned.

George
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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-26 Thread Al Grantier
Nope I dont think it is.  ONly way is buying 100 + radios from senao from 
some one that is willing to sell you 100 units for $80 then your ok
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Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:


I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but at 
$100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k more. If 
anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for less than 
$150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net


Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500 +/- of 
them.

And they have a 200MW version.
But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders.

The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so.

But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version and 
not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s and 
unstable units.


Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe.
I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned.

George
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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-26 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

Pete,
Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE?  Is this 
outdoor, POE?  It is kind a build your own?

What temperatures is this operation in?

Brian

George wrote:


Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:



I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but 
at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k 
more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for 
less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net



Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500 +/- 
of them.

And they have a 200MW version.
But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders.

The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so.

But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version 
and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s 
and unstable units.


Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe.
I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned.

George


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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-26 Thread Pete Davis. NoDial.net
All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices elsewhere, 
but Eje's usually seem to be in line.


2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24)
PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25)
UML (Satellite Arm) = $13.45

A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine.

They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any 
problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It got 
down to the teens last winter.


Pete Davis
NoDial.net

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Pete,
Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE?  Is this 
outdoor, POE?  It is kind a build your own?

What temperatures is this operation in?

Brian

George wrote:


Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:



I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but 
at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k 
more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for 
less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net




Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500 
+/- of them.

And they have a 200MW version.
But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders.

The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so.

But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version 
and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s 
and unstable units.


Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe.
I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned.

George





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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-26 Thread Pete Davis. NoDial.net

I got them from wisp-router.com but I don't think they carry them anymore.

pd

Dylan Oliver wrote:


Pete,

Where do you buy these EZ-Y bridges?

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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-26 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

Ok.  So a Senao is a CB3 Deluxe or what?

How much is a POE for these CB3's?

Brian

Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:

All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices elsewhere, 
but Eje's usually seem to be in line.


2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24)
PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25)
UML (Satellite Arm) = $13.45

A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine.

They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any 
problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It got 
down to the teens last winter.


Pete Davis
NoDial.net

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Pete,
Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE?  Is 
this outdoor, POE?  It is kind a build your own?

What temperatures is this operation in?

Brian

George wrote:


Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:



I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but 
at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k 
more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client 
for less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net





Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500 
+/- of them.

And they have a 200MW version.
But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders.

The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so.

But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version 
and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s 
and unstable units.


Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe.
I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned.

George







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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-26 Thread Jason
I believe you can get the Rootenna/Senao 2611 unit with hardware to 
mount it to a mast (no satellite arm) at:


http://shop.defactowireless.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.51/it.A/id.171/.f

One unit runs 170$, there is a decent discount on larger orders.

Jason

ps.  these appear on ebay often also.

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Ok.  So a Senao is a CB3 Deluxe or what?

How much is a POE for these CB3's?

Brian

Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:

All prices from wisp-router.com. You may find better prices 
elsewhere, but Eje's usually seem to be in line.


2611 CB3 Deluxe = $94.83 (qty 24)
PacWireless Rootenna = RT24-14 = $36.90 (qty 25)
UML (Satellite Arm) = $13.45

A 3 inch piece of Velcro tape holds in in just fine.

They seem to handle 100 degree + days in South Texas without any 
problem. I don't think I have had any fail due to heat or cold. It 
got down to the teens last winter.


Pete Davis
NoDial.net

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Pete,
Will you list out all the parts and prices of this 200mw CPE?  Is 
this outdoor, POE?  It is kind a build your own?

What temperatures is this operation in?

Brian

George wrote:


Pete Davis. NoDial.net wrote:



I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, 
but at $100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me 
$20k more. If anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE 
client for less than $150 PLEASE contact me off list to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net






Well I would say that Teletronics EZ Bridges were good. I have 500 
+/- of them.

And they have a 200MW version.
But lately, I've been getting some bad ones in my orders.

The 100mw pcb kit is 100.00 or so and the 200mw is 125.00 or so.

But I would caution buyer beware, since buying the pcb only version 
and not the full fledges outdoor unit, I've noticed a lot of doa''s 
and unstable units.


Will be nice when StarVX Lonnie gets his single radio cpe.
I understand it may be in the price range you mentioned.

George








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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-24 Thread Dylan Oliver
Speaking of Senao ... I just ran across some really nasty reviews of
the nl-3054 CB3+. My client wants to share a cable connection at one
house with two others with LOS and within 100ft. Sounds easy enough,
but those reviews (worst product ever) have me looking again
elsewhere. But nothing else seems to offer WPA. The 802.11g is nice,
but could pass.
Anyone have anything decent to say about these? 
Best,
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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-24 Thread A. Huppenthal
3054s were troublesome for us, we don't use them any longer, so don't 
have any news

on later firmware/hardware. 802.11b stuff from Senao is great.

Dylan Oliver wrote:

Speaking of Senao ... I just ran across some really nasty reviews of 
the nl-3054 CB3+. My client wants to share a cable connection at one 
house with two others with LOS and within 100ft. Sounds easy enough, 
but those reviews (worst product ever) have me looking again 
elsewhere. But nothing else seems to offer WPA. The 802.11g is nice, 
but could pass.


Anyone have anything decent to say about these?

Best,
--
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Primaverity, LLC 



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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-24 Thread Pete Davis. NoDial.net
The 3054's suck. If you can keep them airconditioned, they might stay up 
for you for a while, but they SEEM to bee overly sensitive to heat.
I have a 3054 that I use for my kid's bedroom PC, one for my PC 
workbench, and a few other locations where I could probably get by with 
a USB adapter, but since I bought 24 of these POS's, I use them wherever 
I have a NON mission-critical application, or stuff like that.
I once plugged in 10 of them around the house. and associated them all 
to a Linksys router, and pinged all of them for a week without a failure.
In a test environment I don't think I have ever had one fail, but in the 
field, they seem to spontanieously crap out.


A cheap WDS alternative is a EZ-Y net bridges. I have one on a roof with 
an omni, about two miles from a MTik AP and associated in WDS mode, and 
it seems to work well to fill in the blanks for nearby customers.


Pete Davis
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Dylan Oliver wrote:

Speaking of Senao ... I just ran across some really nasty reviews of 
the nl-3054 CB3+. My client wants to share a cable connection at one 
house with two others with LOS and within 100ft. Sounds easy enough, 
but those reviews (worst product ever) have me looking again 
elsewhere. But nothing else seems to offer WPA. The 802.11g is nice, 
but could pass.


Anyone have anything decent to say about these?

Best,
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Primaverity, LLC 



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Re: [WISPA] Senao Question

2005-10-23 Thread Pete Davis. NoDial.net
What I have experienced is that 30% or better is usually a solid signal 
quality. 15% or better is usually a solid signal strength. I have never 
figured out a % to dbm translation.
The web-only non-snmp interface is my least favorite thing about 2611 
CB3 Deluxes.


My most favorite thing about them is the price. 2611's inside rootennas 
are my typical installation. With all hardware and mounting brackets, 
masts, etc, I am laying out less than $200 per install, and paying the 
installer contractor $125..
I have around 200 deployed like what you are describing.  I have almost 
100 more clients with different CPE.


I like the features of the Tranzeos, the Smartbridges, etc etc, but at 
$100 more per CPE, my 200 2611 clients would have cost me $20k more. If 
anyone can tell me another way to get a 36db POE client for less than 
$150 PLEASE contact me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


A note of caution/education to pass along to anyone implementing the 
rootenna/cb3 combination:
If the rootenna is one of the revisions that doesn't have a grounding 
clip to pull out [to make contact with the back bracket] put in a ground 
wire from the front to the back, and ground the pole. Un-Grounded, the 
static discharge from a nearby lightning will often leave the 2511 radio 
card [inside the 2611 bridge] in a in-sensitive state.


I learned that the hard way.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net


Jason wrote:


Guys ( gals),

   Has anyone worked with the Senao 2611 Deluxe Plus/Rootenna combo?  
How do you interpret the Communications Quality % and the Signal 
Strength % values?  What are some typical numbers that you like to 
see/know will work (maybe break it down by thru-put)?  Right now I 
have an 8 mile link with 28% quality and 16% signal strength.  It's 
sticking to 11Mbits/sec, but I have no way to test the throughput at 
the moment.


Jason



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