Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
It's phone dependant. My last phone was just about an extension of my mind. My new one leaves much to be desired and both are by Moto. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:15 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > That t9 stuff sucks like hell IMO. > > On 9/4/09, Mike Hammett wrote: >> Apparently someone doesn't use T9 word mode or have a smart phone. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> ------ >> From: "jp" >> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:39 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill >> >>> Well, keying in letters on the dtmf keypad of a phone means it's 1-4 >>> presses per digit. Morse code is 1-4 presses per letter or 5 for >>> numbers. Input encoding: Morse code is 1-2 press options (depending on >>> the input device), a phone is 10-12 keys to use. So I'd say they are >>> comparable for text data efficiency, and morse wins hands for hand-eye >>> coordination or simplicity. >>> >>> Thus if phones had morse code encoders and decoders built in, people >>> could text easier with less distraction. You know kids would learn morse >>> code in order to become superior texters. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:23:35PM -0400, Robert West wrote: >>>> That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text >>>> messaging. >>>> It's been proven that a person using Morse code to enter a text message >>>> will >>>> beat someone using normal text entry. But with that, isn't text >>>> messaging >>>> pretty much the same type of thing as sending in Morse? We went from >>>> Morse >>>> to voice and it was a big improvement but now it's retro and we're back >>>> to >>>> the text. So my thought was, coming up with a phone that would do >>>> semaphore >>>> and then after that caught on, go for smoke signals then later still, >>>> the >>>> cell phone could tell my kid to run down the street and give my message >>>> in >>>> person. At that point there would be no need for the cell phone and we >>>> could charge for the luxury of not having one. >>>> >>>> >>>> I also have too much time on my hands, or so the wife tells me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Original Message- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of RickG >>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:07 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill >>>> >>>> I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke >>>> signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into >>>> the sea? LOL! >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frank wrote: >>>> > The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. >>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Frank >>>> > >>>> > -Original Message- >>>> > From: Robert West >>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM >>>> > >>>> > Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the >>>> > telegraph Strange but true. >>>> > >>>> > But he was from the future, after all. :) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> > >>>> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> > >>>>
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
I love the T9, wouldn't have it any other way. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill That t9 stuff sucks like hell IMO. On 9/4/09, Mike Hammett wrote: > Apparently someone doesn't use T9 word mode or have a smart phone. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "jp" > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:39 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > >> Well, keying in letters on the dtmf keypad of a phone means it's 1-4 >> presses per digit. Morse code is 1-4 presses per letter or 5 for >> numbers. Input encoding: Morse code is 1-2 press options (depending on >> the input device), a phone is 10-12 keys to use. So I'd say they are >> comparable for text data efficiency, and morse wins hands for hand-eye >> coordination or simplicity. >> >> Thus if phones had morse code encoders and decoders built in, people >> could text easier with less distraction. You know kids would learn morse >> code in order to become superior texters. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:23:35PM -0400, Robert West wrote: >>> That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text >>> messaging. >>> It's been proven that a person using Morse code to enter a text message >>> will >>> beat someone using normal text entry. But with that, isn't text >>> messaging >>> pretty much the same type of thing as sending in Morse? We went from >>> Morse >>> to voice and it was a big improvement but now it's retro and we're back >>> to >>> the text. So my thought was, coming up with a phone that would do >>> semaphore >>> and then after that caught on, go for smoke signals then later still, the >>> cell phone could tell my kid to run down the street and give my message >>> in >>> person. At that point there would be no need for the cell phone and we >>> could charge for the luxury of not having one. >>> >>> >>> I also have too much time on my hands, or so the wife tells me. >>> >>> >>> >>> Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:07 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill >>> >>> I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke >>> signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into >>> the sea? LOL! >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frank wrote: >>> > The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. >>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet >>> > >>> > >>> > Frank >>> > >>> > -Original Message- >>> > From: Robert West >>> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM >>> > >>> > Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the >>> > telegraph Strange but true. >>> > >>> > But he was from the future, after all. :) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> > >>> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> > >>> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireles
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
The head to head competition! http://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/Text_vs_Morse_Leno_2005_05_13.wmv -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 10:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill Apparently someone doesn't use T9 word mode or have a smart phone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "jp" Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:39 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > Well, keying in letters on the dtmf keypad of a phone means it's 1-4 > presses per digit. Morse code is 1-4 presses per letter or 5 for > numbers. Input encoding: Morse code is 1-2 press options (depending on > the input device), a phone is 10-12 keys to use. So I'd say they are > comparable for text data efficiency, and morse wins hands for hand-eye > coordination or simplicity. > > Thus if phones had morse code encoders and decoders built in, people > could text easier with less distraction. You know kids would learn morse > code in order to become superior texters. > > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:23:35PM -0400, Robert West wrote: >> That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text >> messaging. >> It's been proven that a person using Morse code to enter a text message >> will >> beat someone using normal text entry. But with that, isn't text >> messaging >> pretty much the same type of thing as sending in Morse? We went from >> Morse >> to voice and it was a big improvement but now it's retro and we're back >> to >> the text. So my thought was, coming up with a phone that would do >> semaphore >> and then after that caught on, go for smoke signals then later still, the >> cell phone could tell my kid to run down the street and give my message >> in >> person. At that point there would be no need for the cell phone and we >> could charge for the luxury of not having one. >> >> >> I also have too much time on my hands, or so the wife tells me. >> >> >> >> Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:07 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill >> >> I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke >> signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into >> the sea? LOL! >> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frank wrote: >> > The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet >> > >> > >> > Frank >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Robert West >> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM >> > >> > Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the >> > telegraph Strange but true. >> > >> > But he was from the future, after all. :) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscrib
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
That t9 stuff sucks like hell IMO. On 9/4/09, Mike Hammett wrote: > Apparently someone doesn't use T9 word mode or have a smart phone. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "jp" > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:39 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > >> Well, keying in letters on the dtmf keypad of a phone means it's 1-4 >> presses per digit. Morse code is 1-4 presses per letter or 5 for >> numbers. Input encoding: Morse code is 1-2 press options (depending on >> the input device), a phone is 10-12 keys to use. So I'd say they are >> comparable for text data efficiency, and morse wins hands for hand-eye >> coordination or simplicity. >> >> Thus if phones had morse code encoders and decoders built in, people >> could text easier with less distraction. You know kids would learn morse >> code in order to become superior texters. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:23:35PM -0400, Robert West wrote: >>> That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text >>> messaging. >>> It's been proven that a person using Morse code to enter a text message >>> will >>> beat someone using normal text entry. But with that, isn't text >>> messaging >>> pretty much the same type of thing as sending in Morse? We went from >>> Morse >>> to voice and it was a big improvement but now it's retro and we're back >>> to >>> the text. So my thought was, coming up with a phone that would do >>> semaphore >>> and then after that caught on, go for smoke signals then later still, the >>> cell phone could tell my kid to run down the street and give my message >>> in >>> person. At that point there would be no need for the cell phone and we >>> could charge for the luxury of not having one. >>> >>> >>> I also have too much time on my hands, or so the wife tells me. >>> >>> >>> >>> Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:07 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill >>> >>> I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke >>> signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into >>> the sea? LOL! >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frank wrote: >>> > The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. >>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet >>> > >>> > >>> > Frank >>> > >>> > -Original Message- >>> > From: Robert West >>> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM >>> > >>> > Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the >>> > telegraph Strange but true. >>> > >>> > But he was from the future, after all. :) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> > >>> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> > >>> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >&
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Apparently someone doesn't use T9 word mode or have a smart phone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "jp" Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:39 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > Well, keying in letters on the dtmf keypad of a phone means it's 1-4 > presses per digit. Morse code is 1-4 presses per letter or 5 for > numbers. Input encoding: Morse code is 1-2 press options (depending on > the input device), a phone is 10-12 keys to use. So I'd say they are > comparable for text data efficiency, and morse wins hands for hand-eye > coordination or simplicity. > > Thus if phones had morse code encoders and decoders built in, people > could text easier with less distraction. You know kids would learn morse > code in order to become superior texters. > > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:23:35PM -0400, Robert West wrote: >> That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text >> messaging. >> It's been proven that a person using Morse code to enter a text message >> will >> beat someone using normal text entry. But with that, isn't text >> messaging >> pretty much the same type of thing as sending in Morse? We went from >> Morse >> to voice and it was a big improvement but now it's retro and we're back >> to >> the text. So my thought was, coming up with a phone that would do >> semaphore >> and then after that caught on, go for smoke signals then later still, the >> cell phone could tell my kid to run down the street and give my message >> in >> person. At that point there would be no need for the cell phone and we >> could charge for the luxury of not having one. >> >> >> I also have too much time on my hands, or so the wife tells me. >> >> >> >> Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:07 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill >> >> I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke >> signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into >> the sea? LOL! >> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frank wrote: >> > The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet >> > >> > >> > Frank >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Robert West >> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM >> > >> > Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the >> > telegraph Strange but true. >> > >> > But he was from the future, after all. :) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > /* > Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL >KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting > http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Well, keying in letters on the dtmf keypad of a phone means it's 1-4 presses per digit. Morse code is 1-4 presses per letter or 5 for numbers. Input encoding: Morse code is 1-2 press options (depending on the input device), a phone is 10-12 keys to use. So I'd say they are comparable for text data efficiency, and morse wins hands for hand-eye coordination or simplicity. Thus if phones had morse code encoders and decoders built in, people could text easier with less distraction. You know kids would learn morse code in order to become superior texters. On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:23:35PM -0400, Robert West wrote: > That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text messaging. > It's been proven that a person using Morse code to enter a text message will > beat someone using normal text entry. But with that, isnt text messaging > pretty much the same type of thing as sending in Morse? We went from Morse > to voice and it was a big improvement but now it's retro and we're back to > the text. So my thought was, coming up with a phone that would do semaphore > and then after that caught on, go for smoke signals then later still, the > cell phone could tell my kid to run down the street and give my message in > person. At that point there would be no need for the cell phone and we > could charge for the luxury of not having one. > > > I also have too much time on my hands, or so the wife tells me. > > > > Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:07 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > > I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke > signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into > the sea? LOL! > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frank wrote: > > The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet > > > > > > Frank > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Robert West > > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM > > > > Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the > > telegraph Strange but true. > > > > But he was from the future, after all. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text messaging. It's been proven that a person using Morse code to enter a text message will beat someone using normal text entry. But with that, isnt text messaging pretty much the same type of thing as sending in Morse? We went from Morse to voice and it was a big improvement but now it's retro and we're back to the text. So my thought was, coming up with a phone that would do semaphore and then after that caught on, go for smoke signals then later still, the cell phone could tell my kid to run down the street and give my message in person. At that point there would be no need for the cell phone and we could charge for the luxury of not having one. I also have too much time on my hands, or so the wife tells me. Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into the sea? LOL! On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frank wrote: > The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet > > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: Robert West > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM > > Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the > telegraph Strange but true. > > But he was from the future, after all. :) > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
It too remember that. -RickG On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch wrote: > > On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:49 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to >> tie it to >> any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. > > That isn't really an accurate description. The Internet was originally > meant for academic and military purposes and wasn't even opened up to > the outside interests until 1992. I was using it in a former life in > the mid-and-late 1980's before you were allowed any kind of commercial > purpose-which was expressly prohibited until then. > > I remember the vociferous arguments about the "tainting" of the > Internet when it was opened up to ordinary folks and commercial > interests. It took several years for many of the original participants > to "settle down" and get used to the new accessibility. > > Chuck > >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >> improbable, must be the truth." >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser >> wrote: >> >>> Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill >>> is trying >>> to give him power to due? >>> >>> Kurt Fankhauser >>> WAVELINC >>> P.O. Box 126 >>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>> 419-562-6405 >>> www.wavelinc.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill >>> >>> He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant >>> figure out is why "we" are giving this guy so much power? >>> At any rate, the comments are interesting: >>> >>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro >>> l-internet/comments/ >>> -RickG<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG >>> > >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomas >>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro >>> l-internet/<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/ >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Amen! I think Orwell's 1984 would be a good read as well as Atlas Shrugged! On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:43 AM, jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: > The real shame here is that is has nothing to do with cyber-security. There is > no inbound service attack that is not better dealt with by shutting off the > attacked network then by turning off everyone else. Don't forget its dirt > simple > to go "X failed Y times, block traffic from X for Z hours" with any well > designed daemon. DDos's would be the only attack that would be 'better' > stopped > by turning off everyone else (and there are ways to deal with them too that is > better imo). For bank networks, power, water, etc, they should not BE on the > public internet, or at least not advertised! There is no need for the back end > servers running the bank to be linked to the WWW portal in such a way that a > DDoS on the WWW takes out the CC processor. bah! why rant here, anyone who can > pass a Net+ exam know this. > > How about we demand that our public servants pass entry level education for > any > bill they want to propose or vote on? > > And a healthy watch of 'Mr Smith goes to Washington'. Extra points for anyone > who knows that movie with out the help of the Internet! =) > > > John J. Thomas wrote: >> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-control-internet/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into the sea? LOL! On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frank wrote: > The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet > > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: Robert West > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM > > Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the > telegraph Strange but true. > > But he was from the future, after all. :) > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet Frank -Original Message- From: Robert West Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the telegraph Strange but true. But he was from the future, after all. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
We've been on this slippery slope for almost a decade too. It's a worrisome trend but it's been with us for a while now. I would hope the trend would bother anyone who really thinks about it, regardless of where they sit politically. Now, how come we don't use the chat list (WISPA Chatter ) for this stuff? ;-) Chuck On Sep 3, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: > You know, if you really think about places like N. Korea, this is > what the > people live with - open ended regulation of what they can and can't > do, > government officials with the power to do whatever they want, > government > controlled censorship, etc etc - all in the name of "preserving our > country". This is just one more step down a very slippery slope that > our > country is on right now. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:51 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > > For the last couple of years, that's how it has been. Took us more > then a decade getting everything prepared for the lolcats though! > > On 9/3/09, Robert West wrote: >> I thought it was to watch funny cat videos on YouTube. Have I been >> wrong > on >> this??? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Frank >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:58 AM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill >> >> Exactly! One of the best reasons to have the Internet is to hack >> (with > free >> speech) the government. >> >> Frank >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Kurt Fankhauser >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:02 PM >> >> >> Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is > trying >> to give him power to due? >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> WAVELINC >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> 419-562-6405 >> www.wavelinc.com >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > -- > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 "When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee?" From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:49 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to > tie it to > any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. That isn't really an accurate description. The Internet was originally meant for academic and military purposes and wasn't even opened up to the outside interests until 1992. I was using it in a former life in the mid-and-late 1980's before you were allowed any kind of commercial purpose-which was expressly prohibited until then. I remember the vociferous arguments about the "tainting" of the Internet when it was opened up to ordinary folks and commercial interests. It took several years for many of the original participants to "settle down" and get used to the new accessibility. Chuck > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser > wrote: > >> Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill >> is trying >> to give him power to due? >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> WAVELINC >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> 419-562-6405 >> www.wavelinc.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill >> >> He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant >> figure out is why "we" are giving this guy so much power? >> At any rate, the comments are interesting: >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro >> l-internet/comments/ >> -RickG<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomas >> wrote: >>> >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro >> l-internet/<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/ >> >> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 "When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee?" From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
The real shame here is that is has nothing to do with cyber-security. There is no inbound service attack that is not better dealt with by shutting off the attacked network then by turning off everyone else. Don't forget its dirt simple to go "X failed Y times, block traffic from X for Z hours" with any well designed daemon. DDos's would be the only attack that would be 'better' stopped by turning off everyone else (and there are ways to deal with them too that is better imo). For bank networks, power, water, etc, they should not BE on the public internet, or at least not advertised! There is no need for the back end servers running the bank to be linked to the WWW portal in such a way that a DDoS on the WWW takes out the CC processor. bah! why rant here, anyone who can pass a Net+ exam know this. How about we demand that our public servants pass entry level education for any bill they want to propose or vote on? And a healthy watch of 'Mr Smith goes to Washington'. Extra points for anyone who knows that movie with out the help of the Internet! =) John J. Thomas wrote: > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-control-internet/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Well, he was right , because BBN was part of GTE. On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 12:48:37PM -0500, Blake Bowers wrote: > About 10 years ago I was in a meeting in Nashville where a GTE > sales puke announced that GTE invented the internet. > > He beat a hasty retreat when the room full of cops were laughing > at him... > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > > > Was it Prodigy, AOL or Gore who invented the Internet? Or was it > > Compuserve? Man we've come a long ways since ALL of those. > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
About 10 years ago I was in a meeting in Nashville where a GTE sales puke announced that GTE invented the internet. He beat a hasty retreat when the room full of cops were laughing at him... Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > Was it Prodigy, AOL or Gore who invented the Internet? Or was it > Compuserve? Man we've come a long ways since ALL of those. > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the telegraph Strange but true. But he was from the future, after all. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill Was it Prodigy, AOL or Gore who invented the Internet? Or was it Compuserve? Man we've come a long ways since ALL of those. At 10:53 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: >I guess it depends on your definition of "Internet". The ARPANET model >doesn't really show what we have today. > >For me it's about TCP/IP, communication globally from the home, the capacity >for anyone to present what they want nearly instantly. > >20 years could you put a video online and share it with the planet in less >then a minute? That would have been a joke back then. > >Anyways..back to the government not doing its job... > >Josh Luthman >Office: 937-552-2340 >Direct: 937-552-2343 >1100 Wayne St >Suite 1337 >Troy, OH 45373 > >"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >improbable, must be the truth." >--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > >On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:50 AM, RickG wrote: > > > It was more about national defense way back in the 60s --> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET > > Commercial didnt enter the picture until much later. > > -RickG > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Josh > > Luthman wrote: > > > Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to tie it > > to > > > any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > 1100 Wayne St > > > Suite 1337 > > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > > improbable, must be the truth." > > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser > > wrote: > > > > > >> Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is > > trying > > >> to give him power to due? > > >> > > >> Kurt Fankhauser > > >> WAVELINC > > >> P.O. Box 126 > > >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 > > >> 419-562-6405 > > >> www.wavelinc.com > > >> > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > >> Behalf Of RickG > > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM > > >> To: WISPA General List > > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > > >> > > >> He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant > > >> figure out is why "we" are giving this guy so much power? > > >> At any rate, the comments are interesting: > > >> > > >> > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > > >> l-internet/comments/ > > >> -RickG< > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro %0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG > > > > > >> > > >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomas > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > > >> l-internet/< > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro %0Al-internet/ > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > >> > > > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listi
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Al Gore. http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Mike wrote: > Was it Prodigy, AOL or Gore who invented the Internet? Or was it > Compuserve? Man we've come a long ways since ALL of those. > > At 10:53 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: > >I guess it depends on your definition of "Internet". The ARPANET model > >doesn't really show what we have today. > > > >For me it's about TCP/IP, communication globally from the home, the > capacity > >for anyone to present what they want nearly instantly. > > > >20 years could you put a video online and share it with the planet in less > >then a minute? That would have been a joke back then. > > > >Anyways..back to the government not doing its job... > > > >Josh Luthman > >Office: 937-552-2340 > >Direct: 937-552-2343 > >1100 Wayne St > >Suite 1337 > >Troy, OH 45373 > > > >"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > >improbable, must be the truth." > >--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > >On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:50 AM, RickG wrote: > > > > > It was more about national defense way back in the 60s --> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET > > > Commercial didnt enter the picture until much later. > > > -RickG > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Josh > > > Luthman wrote: > > > > Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to > tie it > > > to > > > > any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet > > > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > > 1100 Wayne St > > > > Suite 1337 > > > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > > > improbable, must be the truth." > > > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is > > > trying > > > >> to give him power to due? > > > >> > > > >> Kurt Fankhauser > > > >> WAVELINC > > > >> P.O. Box 126 > > > >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 > > > >> 419-562-6405 > > > >> www.wavelinc.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -Original Message- > > > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > > > >> Behalf Of RickG > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM > > > >> To: WISPA General List > > > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > > > >> > > > >> He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant > > > >> figure out is why "we" are giving this guy so much power? > > > >> At any rate, the comments are interesting: > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > > > >> l-internet/comments/ > > > >> -RickG< > > > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG > > > > > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomas > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > > > >> l-internet/< > > > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/ > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > --
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Was it Prodigy, AOL or Gore who invented the Internet? Or was it Compuserve? Man we've come a long ways since ALL of those. At 10:53 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: >I guess it depends on your definition of "Internet". The ARPANET model >doesn't really show what we have today. > >For me it's about TCP/IP, communication globally from the home, the capacity >for anyone to present what they want nearly instantly. > >20 years could you put a video online and share it with the planet in less >then a minute? That would have been a joke back then. > >Anyways..back to the government not doing its job... > >Josh Luthman >Office: 937-552-2340 >Direct: 937-552-2343 >1100 Wayne St >Suite 1337 >Troy, OH 45373 > >"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >improbable, must be the truth." >--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > >On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:50 AM, RickG wrote: > > > It was more about national defense way back in the 60s --> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET > > Commercial didnt enter the picture until much later. > > -RickG > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Josh > > Luthman wrote: > > > Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to tie it > > to > > > any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > 1100 Wayne St > > > Suite 1337 > > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > > improbable, must be the truth." > > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser > > wrote: > > > > > >> Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is > > trying > > >> to give him power to due? > > >> > > >> Kurt Fankhauser > > >> WAVELINC > > >> P.O. Box 126 > > >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 > > >> 419-562-6405 > > >> www.wavelinc.com > > >> > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > >> Behalf Of RickG > > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM > > >> To: WISPA General List > > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > > >> > > >> He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant > > >> figure out is why "we" are giving this guy so much power? > > >> At any rate, the comments are interesting: > > >> > > >> > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > > >> l-internet/comments/ > > >> -RickG< > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG > > > > > >> > > >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomas > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > > >> l-internet/< > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/ > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > >> > > > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > >> > > > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join tod
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
I guess it depends on your definition of "Internet". The ARPANET model doesn't really show what we have today. For me it's about TCP/IP, communication globally from the home, the capacity for anyone to present what they want nearly instantly. 20 years could you put a video online and share it with the planet in less then a minute? That would have been a joke back then. Anyways..back to the government not doing its job... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:50 AM, RickG wrote: > It was more about national defense way back in the 60s --> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET > Commercial didnt enter the picture until much later. > -RickG > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Josh > Luthman wrote: > > Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to tie it > to > > any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > improbable, must be the truth." > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser > wrote: > > > >> Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is > trying > >> to give him power to due? > >> > >> Kurt Fankhauser > >> WAVELINC > >> P.O. Box 126 > >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 > >> 419-562-6405 > >> www.wavelinc.com > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >> Behalf Of RickG > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > >> > >> He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant > >> figure out is why "we" are giving this guy so much power? > >> At any rate, the comments are interesting: > >> > >> > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > >> l-internet/comments/ > >> -RickG< > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG > > > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomas > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > >> l-internet/< > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/ > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > > >> &
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Yay a Dropbox user! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, RickG wrote: > They are all progressives. > This would be funny if it werent so close to the truth --> > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/304326/1984obama.jpg > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jeff Broadwick > wrote: > > I'd be less concerned about this if it were sponsored by a fringe > > Lefty...Rockefeller is not one of those. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of John J. Thomas > > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:27 PM > > To: wireless@wispa.org > > Subject: [WISPA] Senate Bill > > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > > l-internet/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
It was more about national defense way back in the 60s --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET Commercial didnt enter the picture until much later. -RickG On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to tie it to > any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > >> Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying >> to give him power to due? >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> WAVELINC >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> 419-562-6405 >> www.wavelinc.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill >> >> He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant >> figure out is why "we" are giving this guy so much power? >> At any rate, the comments are interesting: >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro >> l-internet/comments/ >> -RickG<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG> >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomas >> wrote: >> > >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro >> l-internet/<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> >> >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
They are all progressives. This would be funny if it werent so close to the truth --> http://files.getdropbox.com/u/304326/1984obama.jpg On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > I'd be less concerned about this if it were sponsored by a fringe > Lefty...Rockefeller is not one of those. > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of John J. Thomas > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:27 PM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] Senate Bill > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > l-internet/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Just wait till they start taxing us on "per megabyte consumed" I'm going to the tea party on that one! Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill You know, if you really think about places like N. Korea, this is what the people live with - open ended regulation of what they can and can't do, government officials with the power to do whatever they want, government controlled censorship, etc etc - all in the name of "preserving our country". This is just one more step down a very slippery slope that our country is on right now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill For the last couple of years, that's how it has been. Took us more then a decade getting everything prepared for the lolcats though! On 9/3/09, Robert West wrote: > I thought it was to watch funny cat videos on YouTube. Have I been wrong on > this??? > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Frank > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:58 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > > Exactly! One of the best reasons to have the Internet is to hack (with free > speech) the government. > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Fankhauser > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:02 PM > > > Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying > to give him power to due? > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
I'd be less concerned about this if it were sponsored by a fringe Lefty...Rockefeller is not one of those. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John J. Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:27 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Senate Bill http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
You know, if you really think about places like N. Korea, this is what the people live with - open ended regulation of what they can and can't do, government officials with the power to do whatever they want, government controlled censorship, etc etc - all in the name of "preserving our country". This is just one more step down a very slippery slope that our country is on right now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill For the last couple of years, that's how it has been. Took us more then a decade getting everything prepared for the lolcats though! On 9/3/09, Robert West wrote: > I thought it was to watch funny cat videos on YouTube. Have I been wrong on > this??? > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Frank > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:58 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > > Exactly! One of the best reasons to have the Internet is to hack (with free > speech) the government. > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Fankhauser > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:02 PM > > > Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying > to give him power to due? > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
For the last couple of years, that's how it has been. Took us more then a decade getting everything prepared for the lolcats though! On 9/3/09, Robert West wrote: > I thought it was to watch funny cat videos on YouTube. Have I been wrong on > this??? > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Frank > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:58 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > > Exactly! One of the best reasons to have the Internet is to hack (with free > speech) the government. > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Fankhauser > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:02 PM > > > Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying > to give him power to due? > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
I thought it was to watch funny cat videos on YouTube. Have I been wrong on this??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:58 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill Exactly! One of the best reasons to have the Internet is to hack (with free speech) the government. Frank -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:02 PM Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Exactly! One of the best reasons to have the Internet is to hack (with free speech) the government. Frank -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:02 PM Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to tie it to any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying > to give him power to due? > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill > > He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant > figure out is why "we" are giving this guy so much power? > At any rate, the comments are interesting: > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > l-internet/comments/ > -RickG<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG> > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomas > wrote: > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro > l-internet/<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant figure out is why "we" are giving this guy so much power? At any rate, the comments are interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/comments/ -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomas wrote: > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant figure out is why "we" are giving this guy so much power? At any rate, the comments are interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-control-internet/comments/ -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomas wrote: > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-control-internet/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Obama Man can... http://www.youtube.com/v/zhhkF3dqXR0 Can't wait for 2012 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomas wrote: > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-control-internet/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
