Re: [WISPA] Source for Fortigate reseller

2017-05-13 Thread Gino A. Villarini
We are a Meraki shop, but this particular customer required Fortigate

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of Mike Francis <mfran...@jmfsolutions.net<mailto:mfran...@jmfsolutions.net>>



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It is not Cisco or Sonicwall! The list is long. For us we have always been a 
Cisco & Mikrotik shop, but felt we were messing  a piece of the security and 
firewall business. Mikoritk has a great firewall, but it is not active o what 
you would consider an Enterprise firewall. Cisco has a great firewall, but it 
is expensive and complex.

We got involved with Fortinet through a client who needed support for several 
hundred units. Once we started dealing with Fortinet we quickly realized how 
powerful what they have built really is. The Unified Threat Management is very 
advanced and very scalable. There are several pieces that make it a  true 
Enterprise solution like the Forti-manger, the Forti-analyzer etc. On top of 
that the Next Gen, IPS, VPN forwarding and processing is very impressive, and 
so are the management, the Virtual Domain, the HA config, the Clustering 
technology and so on. We also do a lot of virtual routing and their 
Fortigate-VM is very nice too. There is a reason these guys are growing so fast 
and are on the top of every security vendor list out there.

Another thing is that they really vet their partners. One thing that I have 
noticed in the security industry is that if a IT guys says he/she is using a 
sonicwall, that is a potential red flag.  +80% of the time they have no idea 
what they are doing. When someone says they are a Fortinet Partner, they have 
been through the proper training, been vetted and it is much more likely you 
are talking to someone who knows what they are doing.

Thank you,

John Michael Francis II
JMF Solutions, Inc
Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
INC 5000 #2593
CRN Fast Growth #105
251-517-5069
http://jmfsolutions.net
http://wavefly.com

"People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them anyway. If 
you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do good anyway. If you 
are successful, you may win false friends and true enemies. Succeed anyway. The 
good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway. Honesty and 
transparency make you vulnerable. Be honest and transparent anyway. What you 
spend years building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway. People who 
really want help may attack you if you help them. Help them anyway. Give the 
world the best you have and you may get hurt. Give the world your best anyway." 
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On 5/12/2017 6:20 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:
What's some of the selling points with Fortigate?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On May 12, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Mike Francis 
<mfran...@jmfsolutions.net<mailto:mfran...@jmfsolutions.net>> wrote:


We are a Forigate partner and do a lot of Fortigate business. I will send you a 
quote.

Thank you,

John Michael Francis II
JMF Solutions, Inc
Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
INC 5000 #2593
CRN Fast Growth #105
251-517-5069
http://jmfsolutions.net
http://wavefly.com

"People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them anyway. If 
you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do good anyway. If you 
are successful, you may win false friends and true enemies. Succeed anyway. The 
good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway. Honesty and 
transparency make you vulnerable. Be honest and transparent anyway. What you 
spend years building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway. People who 
really want help may attack you if you help them. Help them anyway. Give the 
world the best you have and you may get hurt. Give the world your best anyway." 
By: Mother Teresa
On 5/12/2017 3:15 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Need a quote for 30 FortiWifi-30E units



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Re: [WISPA] Source for Fortigate reseller

2017-05-13 Thread Tim
Patrick a WISPA member squarecomputer.On May 13, 2017 12:06 PM, Leon Zetekoff  wrote:
when I was at Windstream,  FOrtinet was their FW of choice.
  PAETEC was just integrated into Windstream (where I came from) and
  we used Watchguards. Having been trained on both, the problem with
  the Fortinets, IMHO, is the inconsistency between CPE and Cloud
  interfaces. ALso, everything is done in the browser and its very
  clunky and confusing at times. WG has a client (even though they
  are slowly trying to go to a browser based client) but the
  interface in the client is consistent across the product lines.
  Also, there is an inconsistency on the Fortinet when using the
  interface on the device itself versus the management system. One
  other item was some things could only be done in the CLI.
Having said that,  when I was in the Security Operations Center
  of Windstream, I wrote the following three papers distributed to
  our team internally:


  o   
Duplicated Networks with Fortinet
firewalls and Remote
VPN dialups
  o   
Social Networks and Fortigate Web
Filters
  o   
Fortigate Site-2-Site VPNs with
Meraki Remote Peer

I agree the Mikrotik firewall is not something I would use since
  it has no UTM and i find it confusing. Also to define a simple
  rule to do BOTH TCP and UDP, for example, you have to create
  multiple rules. On WG and Fortinet it is much easier.
THe Fortinet HA works very well as I did configure a few of those
  when I was there. I am also not a CISCO fan but have to deal with
  them.
FWIW, I am a WG reseller. 

Leon


On 5/13/2017 11:19 AM, Mike Francis
  wrote:


  
  It is not Cisco or Sonicwall! The list is long. For us we have
always been a Cisco & Mikrotik shop, but felt we were
messing  a piece of the security and firewall business. Mikoritk
has a great firewall, but it is not active o what you would
consider an Enterprise firewall. Cisco has a great firewall, but
it is expensive and complex. 
  
  We got involved with Fortinet through a client who needed
support for several hundred units. Once we started dealing with
Fortinet we quickly realized how powerful what they have built
really is. The Unified Threat Management is very advanced and
very scalable. There are several pieces that make it a  true
Enterprise solution like the Forti-manger, the Forti-analyzer
etc. On top of that the Next Gen, IPS, VPN forwarding and
processing is very impressive, and so are the management, the
Virtual Domain, the HA config, the Clustering technology and so
on. We also do a lot of virtual routing and their Fortigate-VM
is very nice too. There is a reason these guys are growing so
fast and are on the top of every security vendor list out there.
  Another thing is that they really vet their partners. One thing
that I have noticed in the security industry is that if a IT
guys says he/she is using a sonicwall, that is a potential red
flag.  +80% of the time they have no idea what they are doing.
When someone says they are a Fortinet Partner, they have been
through the proper training, been vetted and it is much more
likely you are talking to someone who knows what they are doing.
  Thank you,
  
  John Michael Francis II
JMF Solutions, Inc
Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
INC 5000 #2593
CRN Fast Growth #105
251-517-5069
http://jmfsolutions.net
http://wavefly.com

"People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love
them anyway. If you do good, people may accuse you of selfish
motives. Do good anyway. If you are successful, you may win
false friends and true enemies. Succeed anyway. The good you do
today may be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway. Honesty and
transparency make you vulnerable. Be honest and transparent
anyway. What you spend years building may be destroyed
overnight. Build anyway. People who really want help may attack
you if you help them. Help them anyway. Give the world the best
you have and you may get hurt. Give the world your best anyway."
By: Mother Teresa 
  On 5/12/2017 6:20 PM, Jon Langeler
wrote:
  
  

What's some of the selling points with Fortigate?
  
  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.
  
  


  On May 12, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Mike Francis 

Re: [WISPA] Source for Fortigate reseller

2017-05-13 Thread Leon Zetekoff
when I was at Windstream,  FOrtinet was their FW of choice. PAETEC was 
just integrated into Windstream (where I came from) and we used 
Watchguards. Having been trained on both, the problem with the 
Fortinets, IMHO, is the inconsistency between CPE and Cloud interfaces. 
ALso, everything is done in the browser and its very clunky and 
confusing at times. WG has a client (even though they are slowly trying 
to go to a browser based client) but the interface in the client is 
consistent across the product lines. Also, there is an inconsistency on 
the Fortinet when using the interface on the device itself versus the 
management system. One other item was some things could only be done in 
the CLI.


Having said that,  when I was in the Security Operations Center of 
Windstream, I wrote the following three papers distributed to our team 
internally:


o/Duplicated Networks with Fortinet firewalls and Remote VPN dialups///

o/Social Networks and Fortigate Web Filters///

o/Fortigate Site-2-Site VPNs with Meraki Remote Peer///

I agree the Mikrotik firewall is not something I would use since it has 
no UTM and i find it confusing. Also to define a simple rule to do BOTH 
TCP and UDP, for example, you have to create multiple rules. On WG and 
Fortinet it is much easier.


THe Fortinet HA works very well as I did configure a few of those when I 
was there. I am also not a CISCO fan but have to deal with them.


FWIW, I am a WG reseller.

Leon


On 5/13/2017 11:19 AM, Mike Francis wrote:


It is not Cisco or Sonicwall! The list is long. For us we have always 
been a Cisco & Mikrotik shop, but felt we were messing  a piece of the 
security and firewall business. Mikoritk has a great firewall, but it 
is not active o what you would consider an Enterprise firewall. Cisco 
has a great firewall, but it is expensive and complex.


We got involved with Fortinet through a client who needed support for 
several hundred units. Once we started dealing with Fortinet we 
quickly realized how powerful what they have built really is. The 
Unified Threat Management is very advanced and very scalable. There 
are several pieces that make it a  true Enterprise solution like the 
Forti-manger, the Forti-analyzer etc. On top of that the Next Gen, 
IPS, VPN forwarding and processing is very impressive, and so are the 
management, the Virtual Domain, the HA config, the Clustering 
technology and so on. We also do a lot of virtual routing and their 
Fortigate-VM is very nice too. There is a reason these guys are 
growing so fast and are on the top of every security vendor list out 
there.


Another thing is that they really vet their partners. One thing that I 
have noticed in the security industry is that if a IT guys says he/she 
is using a sonicwall, that is a potential red flag.  +80% of the time 
they have no idea what they are doing. When someone says they are a 
Fortinet Partner, they have been through the proper training, been 
vetted and it is much more likely you are talking to someone who knows 
what they are doing.


Thank you,

John Michael Francis II
JMF Solutions, Inc
Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
INC 5000 #2593
CRN Fast Growth #105
251-517-5069
http://jmfsolutions.net
http://wavefly.com

"People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them 
anyway. If you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do 
good anyway. If you are successful, you may win false friends and true 
enemies. Succeed anyway. The good you do today may be forgotten 
tomorrow. Do good anyway. Honesty and transparency make you 
vulnerable. Be honest and transparent anyway. What you spend years 
building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway. People who really 
want help may attack you if you help them. Help them anyway. Give the 
world the best you have and you may get hurt. Give the world your best 
anyway." By: Mother Teresa

On 5/12/2017 6:20 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:

What's some of the selling points with Fortigate?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On May 12, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Mike Francis > wrote:


We are a Forigate partner and do a lot of Fortigate business. I will 
send you a quote.


Thank you,

John Michael Francis II
JMF Solutions, Inc
Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
INC 5000 #2593
CRN Fast Growth #105
251-517-5069
http://jmfsolutions.net
http://wavefly.com

"People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them 
anyway. If you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do 
good anyway. If you are successful, you may win false friends and 
true enemies. Succeed anyway. The good you do today may be forgotten 
tomorrow. Do good anyway. Honesty and transparency make you 
vulnerable. Be honest and transparent anyway. What you spend years 
building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway. People who really 
want help may attack you if you help them. Help them anyway. Give 
the world the best you have and you may get hurt. 

Re: [WISPA] Source for Fortigate reseller

2017-05-13 Thread Mike Francis
It is not Cisco or Sonicwall! The list is long. For us we have always 
been a Cisco & Mikrotik shop, but felt we were messing a piece of the 
security and firewall business. Mikoritk has a great firewall, but it is 
not active o what you would consider an Enterprise firewall. Cisco has a 
great firewall, but it is expensive and complex.


We got involved with Fortinet through a client who needed support for 
several hundred units. Once we started dealing with Fortinet we quickly 
realized how powerful what they have built really is. The Unified Threat 
Management is very advanced and very scalable. There are several pieces 
that make it a  true Enterprise solution like the Forti-manger, the 
Forti-analyzer etc. On top of that the Next Gen, IPS, VPN forwarding and 
processing is very impressive, and so are the management, the Virtual 
Domain, the HA config, the Clustering technology and so on. We also do a 
lot of virtual routing and their Fortigate-VM is very nice too. There is 
a reason these guys are growing so fast and are on the top of every 
security vendor list out there.


Another thing is that they really vet their partners. One thing that I 
have noticed in the security industry is that if a IT guys says he/she 
is using a sonicwall, that is a potential red flag. +80% of the time 
they have no idea what they are doing. When someone says they are a 
Fortinet Partner, they have been through the proper training, been 
vetted and it is much more likely you are talking to someone who knows 
what they are doing.


Thank you,

John Michael Francis II
JMF Solutions, Inc
Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
INC 5000 #2593
CRN Fast Growth #105
251-517-5069
http://jmfsolutions.net
http://wavefly.com

"People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them 
anyway. If you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do 
good anyway. If you are successful, you may win false friends and true 
enemies. Succeed anyway. The good you do today may be forgotten 
tomorrow. Do good anyway. Honesty and transparency make you vulnerable. 
Be honest and transparent anyway. What you spend years building may be 
destroyed overnight. Build anyway. People who really want help may 
attack you if you help them. Help them anyway. Give the world the best 
you have and you may get hurt. Give the world your best anyway." By: 
Mother Teresa

On 5/12/2017 6:20 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:

What's some of the selling points with Fortigate?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On May 12, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Mike Francis > wrote:


We are a Forigate partner and do a lot of Fortigate business. I will 
send you a quote.


Thank you,

John Michael Francis II
JMF Solutions, Inc
Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
INC 5000 #2593
CRN Fast Growth #105
251-517-5069
http://jmfsolutions.net
http://wavefly.com

"People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them 
anyway. If you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do 
good anyway. If you are successful, you may win false friends and 
true enemies. Succeed anyway. The good you do today may be forgotten 
tomorrow. Do good anyway. Honesty and transparency make you 
vulnerable. Be honest and transparent anyway. What you spend years 
building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway. People who really 
want help may attack you if you help them. Help them anyway. Give the 
world the best you have and you may get hurt. Give the world your 
best anyway." By: Mother Teresa

On 5/12/2017 3:15 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

Need a quote for 30 FortiWifi-30E units

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*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
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Re: [WISPA] Source for Fortigate reseller

2017-05-12 Thread Jon Langeler
What's some of the selling points with Fortigate?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On May 12, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Mike Francis  wrote:
> 
> We are a Forigate partner and do a lot of Fortigate business. I will send you 
> a quote.
> 
> Thank you,
> John Michael Francis II
> JMF Solutions, Inc
> Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
> INC 5000 #2593
> CRN Fast Growth #105
> 251-517-5069
> http://jmfsolutions.net
> http://wavefly.com
> 
> "People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them anyway. If 
> you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do good anyway. If you 
> are successful, you may win false friends and true enemies. Succeed anyway. 
> The good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway. Honesty and 
> transparency make you vulnerable. Be honest and transparent anyway. What you 
> spend years building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway. People who 
> really want help may attack you if you help them. Help them anyway. Give the 
> world the best you have and you may get hurt. Give the world your best 
> anyway." By: Mother Teresa
>> On 5/12/2017 3:15 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>> Need a quote for 30 FortiWifi-30E units 
>>  
>> 
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> 
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>> 
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Source for Fortigate reseller

2017-05-12 Thread Mike Francis
We are a Forigate partner and do a lot of Fortigate business. I will 
send you a quote.


Thank you,

John Michael Francis II
JMF Solutions, Inc
Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
INC 5000 #2593
CRN Fast Growth #105
251-517-5069
http://jmfsolutions.net
http://wavefly.com

"People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them 
anyway. If you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do 
good anyway. If you are successful, you may win false friends and true 
enemies. Succeed anyway. The good you do today may be forgotten 
tomorrow. Do good anyway. Honesty and transparency make you vulnerable. 
Be honest and transparent anyway. What you spend years building may be 
destroyed overnight. Build anyway. People who really want help may 
attack you if you help them. Help them anyway. Give the world the best 
you have and you may get hurt. Give the world your best anyway." By: 
Mother Teresa

On 5/12/2017 3:15 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

Need a quote for 30 FortiWifi-30E units

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*/Gino A. Villarini/*

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