RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Hendry
I said pop-up because that's what the Mikrotik help says it is. Is it
actually a redirect then?

I would have thought it would block them as I thought that was what the
advertise-timeout setting was for.

Cheers,

P.

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On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Paul Hendry wrote:

I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not 
sure a public address would be any help as it relies on all your 
web traffic being transparently proxied through the MT. Once a 
pre-defined timer expires the MT would then send a pop-up to the 
end users when they next request (at least I think that's the 
theory). It should also block all traffic until the end user has 
seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems with 
users running pop-up blockers. John?

It's not a popup.  It delivers the page to the end user's browser 
directly.  You are correct that transparent proxy is part of it.  I 
can't say if it will log them out if they are not running a 
web-browser and cannot view the advertisement.

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RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

2006-04-19 Thread John Tully

Hello Paul,

I will see if we can add better documentation for this these features.  I 
think their web browser gets the ad page instead of where they wanted to go 
-- and then it goes on to where they wanted to go.


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At 03:28 PM 4/18/2006, you wrote:

I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not sure a
public address would be any help as it relies on all your web traffic being
transparently proxied through the MT. Once a pre-defined timer expires the
MT would then send a pop-up to the end users when they next request (at
least I think that's the theory). It should also block all traffic until the
end user has seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems
with users running pop-up blockers. John?

Cheers,

P.

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some
screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the
hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I
would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble
visualizing exactly what it is doing.
Many thanks,
Scriv


Paul Hendry wrote:

Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on
the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all?

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I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems
to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be
able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it
doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the
transparent proxy. Anyone tried this?



Yes, it works with the transparent proxy.

Just go to 'IP  HotSpot  User  Profiles  Profile Name Advertise' in
Winbox.



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Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

2006-04-18 Thread ofasa.wisp-lists
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From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM
Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature


 I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems
 to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be
 able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it
 doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the
 transparent proxy. Anyone tried this?

Yes, it works with the transparent proxy.

Just go to 'IP  HotSpot  User  Profiles  Profile Name Advertise' in
Winbox.

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RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

2006-04-18 Thread Paul Hendry
Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on
the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all?

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To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM
Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature


 I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems
 to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be
 able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it
 doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the
 transparent proxy. Anyone tried this?

Yes, it works with the transparent proxy.

Just go to 'IP  HotSpot  User  Profiles  Profile Name Advertise' in
Winbox.

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Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

2006-04-18 Thread John Scrivner
I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some 
screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the 
hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I 
would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble 
visualizing exactly what it is doing.

Many thanks,
Scriv


Paul Hendry wrote:


Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on
the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all?

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- Original Message -
From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM
Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature


 


I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems
to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be
able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it
doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the
transparent proxy. Anyone tried this?
   



Yes, it works with the transparent proxy.

Just go to 'IP  HotSpot  User  Profiles  Profile Name Advertise' in
Winbox.

 


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Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

2006-04-18 Thread John Tully

Hello John,

I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some 
screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the 
hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I would 
really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble 
visualizing exactly what it is doing.

Many thanks,
Scriv


There will be a demo of this at the MUM US meeting.

John
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Paul Hendry wrote:


Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on
the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all?

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I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems
to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be
able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it
doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the
transparent proxy. Anyone tried this?



Yes, it works with the transparent proxy.

Just go to 'IP  HotSpot  User  Profiles  Profile Name Advertise' in
Winbox.



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RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

2006-04-18 Thread Paul Hendry
I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not sure a
public address would be any help as it relies on all your web traffic being
transparently proxied through the MT. Once a pre-defined timer expires the
MT would then send a pop-up to the end users when they next request (at
least I think that's the theory). It should also block all traffic until the
end user has seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems
with users running pop-up blockers. John?

Cheers,

P.

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Sent: 18 April 2006 13:18
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some 
screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the 
hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I 
would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble 
visualizing exactly what it is doing.
Many thanks,
Scriv


Paul Hendry wrote:

Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on
the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all?

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I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems
to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be
able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it
doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the
transparent proxy. Anyone tried this?



Yes, it works with the transparent proxy.

Just go to 'IP  HotSpot  User  Profiles  Profile Name Advertise' in
Winbox.

  

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Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

2006-04-18 Thread ofasa.wisp-lists
If the ad is blocked by a pop-up blocker the user sees an empty page with a
link to the ad and has to click on the link before he can continue on to the
the requested page.

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 I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not sure a
 public address would be any help as it relies on all your web traffic
being
 transparently proxied through the MT. Once a pre-defined timer expires the
 MT would then send a pop-up to the end users when they next request (at
 least I think that's the theory). It should also block all traffic until
the
 end user has seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems
 with users running pop-up blockers. John?

 Cheers,

 P.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of John Scrivner
 Sent: 18 April 2006 13:18
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

 I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some
 screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the
 hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I
 would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble
 visualizing exactly what it is doing.
 Many thanks,
 Scriv


 Paul Hendry wrote:

 Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it
on
 the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all?
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 18 April 2006 09:36
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature
 
 
 
 
 I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which
seems
 to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should
be
 able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it
 doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through
the
 transparent proxy. Anyone tried this?
 
 
 
 Yes, it works with the transparent proxy.
 
 Just go to 'IP  HotSpot  User  Profiles  Profile Name Advertise' in
 Winbox.
 
 
 
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RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

2006-04-18 Thread Paul Hendry
I take it that that's the radvert.htm page. How long have you been running
it and have you had any issues?

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If the ad is blocked by a pop-up blocker the user sees an empty page with a
link to the ad and has to click on the link before he can continue on to the
the requested page.

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 I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not sure a
 public address would be any help as it relies on all your web traffic
being
 transparently proxied through the MT. Once a pre-defined timer expires the
 MT would then send a pop-up to the end users when they next request (at
 least I think that's the theory). It should also block all traffic until
the
 end user has seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems
 with users running pop-up blockers. John?

 Cheers,

 P.

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of John Scrivner
 Sent: 18 April 2006 13:18
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

 I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some
 screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the
 hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I
 would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble
 visualizing exactly what it is doing.
 Many thanks,
 Scriv


 Paul Hendry wrote:

 Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it
on
 the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all?
 
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 I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which
seems
 to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should
be
 able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it
 doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through
the
 transparent proxy. Anyone tried this?
 
 
 
 Yes, it works with the transparent proxy.
 
 Just go to 'IP  HotSpot  User  Profiles  Profile Name Advertise' in
 Winbox.
 
 
 
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RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

2006-04-18 Thread JNA
Is it possible to use this with transparent proxy without the hotspot? This
would be a neat 'payment reminder' to those past due accounts by redirecting
them to a 'please pay your bill' page every x-hours. We don't use hotspot
but do use the transparent proxy.

John

  I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which
 seems
  to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should
 be
  able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it
  doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through
 the
  transparent proxy. Anyone tried this?
 
 Yes, it works with the transparent proxy.
 
 Just go to 'IP  HotSpot  User  Profiles  Profile Name Advertise' in
 Winbox.
 
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RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature

2006-04-18 Thread Butch Evans

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Paul Hendry wrote:

I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not 
sure a public address would be any help as it relies on all your 
web traffic being transparently proxied through the MT. Once a 
pre-defined timer expires the MT would then send a pop-up to the 
end users when they next request (at least I think that's the 
theory). It should also block all traffic until the end user has 
seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems with 
users running pop-up blockers. John?


It's not a popup.  It delivers the page to the end user's browser 
directly.  You are correct that transparent proxy is part of it.  I 
can't say if it will log them out if they are not running a 
web-browser and cannot view the advertisement.


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