Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Depends on location and time of the year. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/22/2010 2:29 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: $4/meg from cogent is actually a bit high. I've seen deals for 3/meg on 100mb/s commit, And under 1.8/meg for GigE commit. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 *From*: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com *Sent*: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:47 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your network right out of the city. Cogent for example on their website today is offering $4/meg (for gige commit I bet) if TW wants to charge $2100 for 40 Meg ($52.50/meg) you really have to start thinking about why not setup some backhauls to give yourself a better rate. Coming from Columbus for example - and getting even $10/meg or Dayton or Cincy for us @ $10/meg allows us to make up the other $42+/- per meg in backhaul costs. Lets say for giggles and grins that Time Warner requires a 4 year contract at a rate of $2100 or at a total cost of $100,800 In turn an agreement from a carrier hotel for Blended bandwidth or even let's say from Cogent at a cost lets say for 40 Meg of $10/meg = $400/mo or $19.200 for the same agreement ( 4 years) You really need to debate what the additional $81,600 could mean to your bottom line. Even setting up multiple links from a carrier hotel - EVEN if it cost you $50K for the links would still place $30K +/- in your bottom line. I could see where some of us that but up against each other could actually build our own Network to assist each other even :-) but that is a different story Many will argue that Cogent stinks - Funny but I feel just the opposite. It is a great product for a good price. AND I find they still kick the heck out of Time Warner - but thats just my opinion. On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com mailto:gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com mailto:li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn't complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your network right out of the city. Cogent for example on their website today is offering $4/meg (for gige commit I bet) if TW wants to charge $2100 for 40 Meg ($52.50/meg) you really have to start thinking about why not setup some backhauls to give yourself a better rate. Coming from Columbus for example - and getting even $10/meg or Dayton or Cincy for us @ $10/meg allows us to make up the other $42+/- per meg in backhaul costs. Lets say for giggles and grins that Time Warner requires a 4 year contract at a rate of $2100 or at a total cost of $100,800 In turn an agreement from a carrier hotel for Blended bandwidth or even let's say from Cogent at a cost lets say for 40 Meg of $10/meg = $400/mo or $19.200 for the same agreement ( 4 years) You really need to debate what the additional $81,600 could mean to your bottom line. Even setting up multiple links from a carrier hotel - EVEN if it cost you $50K for the links would still place $30K +/- in your bottom line. I could see where some of us that but up against each other could actually build our own Network to assist each other even :-) but that is a different story Many will argue that Cogent stinks - Funny but I feel just the opposite. It is a great product for a good price. AND I find they still kick the heck out of Time Warner - but thats just my opinion. On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Saving 80k would mean I could buy that new bucket truck :) Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your network right out of the city. Cogent for example on their website today is offering $4/meg (for gige commit I bet) if TW wants to charge $2100 for 40 Meg ($52.50/meg) you really have to start thinking about why not setup some backhauls to give yourself a better rate. Coming from Columbus for example - and getting even $10/meg or Dayton or Cincy for us @ $10/meg allows us to make up the other $42+/- per meg in backhaul costs. Lets say for giggles and grins that Time Warner requires a 4 year contract at a rate of $2100 or at a total cost of $100,800 In turn an agreement from a carrier hotel for Blended bandwidth or even let's say from Cogent at a cost lets say for 40 Meg of $10/meg = $400/mo or $19.200 for the same agreement ( 4 years) You really need to debate what the additional $81,600 could mean to your bottom line. Even setting up multiple links from a carrier hotel - EVEN if it cost you $50K for the links would still place $30K +/- in your bottom line. I could see where some of us that but up against each other could actually build our own Network to assist each other even :-) but that is a different story Many will argue that Cogent stinks - Funny but I feel just the opposite. It is a great product for a good price. AND I find they still kick the heck out of Time Warner - but thats just my opinion. On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
$4/meg from cogent is actually a bit high. I've seen deals for 3/meg on 100mb/s commit, And under 1.8/meg for GigE commit. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:47 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your network right out of the city. Cogent for example on their website today is offering $4/meg (for gige commit I bet) if TW wants to charge $2100 for 40 Meg ($52.50/meg) you really have to start thinking about why not setup some backhauls to give yourself a better rate. Coming from Columbus for example - and getting even $10/meg or Dayton or Cincy for us @ $10/meg allows us to make up the other $42+/- per meg in backhaul costs. Lets say for giggles and grins that Time Warner requires a 4 year contract at a rate of $2100 or at a total cost of $100,800 In turn an agreement from a carrier hotel for Blended bandwidth or even let's say from Cogent at a cost lets say for 40 Meg of $10/meg = $400/mo or $19.200 for the same agreement ( 4 years) You really need to debate what the additional $81,600 could mean to your bottom line. Even setting up multiple links from a carrier hotel - EVEN if it cost you $50K for the links would still place $30K +/- in your bottom line. I could see where some of us that but up against each other could actually build our own Network to assist each other even :-) but that is a different story Many will argue that Cogent stinks - Funny but I feel just the opposite. It is a great product for a good price. AND I find they still kick the heck out of Time Warner - but thats just my opinion. On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn't complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
In the Philly market yes in Ohio - not so much :-( It depends upon what they have i guess (or the sales rep) $300/mo for 100mbps is not 2 shabby :-) On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: $4/meg from cogent is actually a bit high. I've seen deals for 3/meg on 100mb/s commit, And under 1.8/meg for GigE commit. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:47 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your network right out of the city. Cogent for example on their website today is offering $4/meg (for gige commit I bet) if TW wants to charge $2100 for 40 Meg ($52.50/meg) you really have to start thinking about why not setup some backhauls to give yourself a better rate. Coming from Columbus for example - and getting even $10/meg or Dayton or Cincy for us @ $10/meg allows us to make up the other $42+/- per meg in backhaul costs. Lets say for giggles and grins that Time Warner requires a 4 year contract at a rate of $2100 or at a total cost of $100,800 In turn an agreement from a carrier hotel for Blended bandwidth or even let's say from Cogent at a cost lets say for 40 Meg of $10/meg = $400/mo or $19.200 for the same agreement ( 4 years) You really need to debate what the additional $81,600 could mean to your bottom line. Even setting up multiple links from a carrier hotel - EVEN if it cost you $50K for the links would still place $30K +/- in your bottom line. I could see where some of us that but up against each other could actually build our own Network to assist each other even :-) but that is a different story Many will argue that Cogent stinks - Funny but I feel just the opposite. It is a great product for a good price. AND I find they still kick the heck out of Time Warner - but thats just my opinion. On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Let's meet at the Beck Tavern in German Village next week for a holiday meeting and discuss fiber pricing. -- Original Message -- From: Jenco Wireless bradhagst...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:37:59 -0500 I've been good - not planning on going anywhere! Just a quiet Lister! On Dec 16, 2010 5:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: How you been Brad!? Glad to see your still around. -Kurt _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jenco Wireless Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg I'm paying a little more - $2500 for 40 Megs. I feel ripped off !!! There is a 10% margin built in, so its really 44 Megs (Important to know with Butch's QOS) On Dec 16, 2010 9:06 AM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: This isn't in Ohio but when we were upgrading our TW fiber in Idaho, the saleswoman said she can't do any special pricing on circuits less than 100M, we are around $20/M now. -Kevin On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn't complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20 Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
This isn't in Ohio but when we were upgrading our TW fiber in Idaho, the saleswoman said she can't do any special pricing on circuits less than 100M, we are around $20/M now. -Kevin On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20 Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
I'm paying a little more - $2500 for 40 Megs. I feel ripped off !!! There is a 10% margin built in, so its really 44 Megs (Important to know with Butch's QOS) On Dec 16, 2010 9:06 AM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: This isn't in Ohio but when we were upgrading our TW fiber in Idaho, the saleswoman said she can't do any special pricing on circuits less than 100M, we are around $20/M now. -Kevin On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
How you been Brad!? Glad to see your still around. -Kurt _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jenco Wireless Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg I'm paying a little more - $2500 for 40 Megs. I feel ripped off !!! There is a 10% margin built in, so its really 44 Megs (Important to know with Butch's QOS) On Dec 16, 2010 9:06 AM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: This isn't in Ohio but when we were upgrading our TW fiber in Idaho, the saleswoman said she can't do any special pricing on circuits less than 100M, we are around $20/M now. -Kevin On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn't complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
I've been good - not planning on going anywhere! Just a quiet Lister! On Dec 16, 2010 5:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: How you been Brad!? Glad to see your still around. -Kurt _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jenco Wireless Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg I'm paying a little more - $2500 for 40 Megs. I feel ripped off !!! There is a 10% margin built in, so its really 44 Megs (Important to know with Butch's QOS) On Dec 16, 2010 9:06 AM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: This isn't in Ohio but when we were upgrading our TW fiber in Idaho, the saleswoman said she can't do any special pricing on circuits less than 100M, we are around $20/M now. -Kevin On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn't complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20 Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Are you operators in Ohio, wanting to do a State WISP meeting this winter? If so, start a thread on the Ohio mailing list http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ohio . The meeting in Indiana http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=3434 is almost to capacity (80) with 74 signed up so far. Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
I'd be up for that. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Are you operators in Ohio, wanting to do a State WISP meeting this winter? If so, start a thread on the Ohio mailing list http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ohio . The meeting in Indiana http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=3434 is almost to capacity (80) with 74 signed up so far. Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Really? Guess I shouldn't complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Hey, that's good to know! They may be adjusting their pricing. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Really? Guess I shouldn't complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
I'm still trying to find a factory in China that manufactures cheap bandwidth. Then I'll import it and make a killing! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Really? Guess I shouldn't complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20 Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
