Re: [WISPA] Trango Question
Please do enlighten us of this latest special. - Matt Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want to consider another product. We just visited with Trango and I can personally attest to the fact that their engineering and manufacturing capabilities are up and operational They have ceased future development on certain products that don't make financial sense, but one could argue that that's just trying to get more bang for your buck in this economy and a far cry from laying off your engineering staff Can anyone confirm/refute this? I have been seriously looking at their licensed links. Have you heard about the latest Trango licensed link special? This one blows the last one from the summer/fall away =) -Charles This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Question - OFFLIST
Hi Matt, Missed you at AF this year -- saw your tree presentation though In lieu of violating list protocol, I would recommend that you ask Adam -- he should know all about it -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question Please do enlighten us of this latest special. - Matt Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want to consider another product. We just visited with Trango and I can personally attest to the fact that their engineering and manufacturing capabilities are up and operational They have ceased future development on certain products that don't make financial sense, but one could argue that that's just trying to get more bang for your buck in this economy and a far cry from laying off your engineering staff Can anyone confirm/refute this? I have been seriously looking at their licensed links. Have you heard about the latest Trango licensed link special? This one blows the last one from the summer/fall away =) -Charles This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Question - OFFLIST
I really hate when this happens. :-) Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: Hi Matt, Missed you at AF this year -- saw your tree presentation though In lieu of violating list protocol, I would recommend that you ask Adam -- he should know all about it -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question Please do enlighten us of this latest special. - Matt Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want to consider another product. We just visited with Trango and I can personally attest to the fact that their engineering and manufacturing capabilities are up and operational They have ceased future development on certain products that don't make financial sense, but one could argue that that's just trying to get more bang for your buck in this economy and a far cry from laying off your engineering staff Can anyone confirm/refute this? I have been seriously looking at their licensed links. Have you heard about the latest Trango licensed link special? This one blows the last one from the summer/fall away =) -Charles This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Question
I have heard this a few times myself... although from what I heard it was mostly their point to multipoint product engineers. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Wallace Walcher Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:33 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Trango Question I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want to consider another product. Can anyone confirm/refute this? I have been seriously looking at their licensed links. Thanks. Wallace L. Walcher Airosurf Communications, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Question
This is completely UNTRUE! I would like to find out who sent you this email because it is absolutely false and slanderous. If you don't mind I would really appreciate if you could send me a copy of the email off-list. Thank you very much. John Seaman Trango Systems, Inc. j...@trangosys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Wallace Walcher Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Trango Question I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want to consider another product. Can anyone confirm/refute this? I have been seriously looking at their licensed links. Thanks. Wallace L. Walcher Airosurf Communications, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Question
John, as you know we also heard this rumor some time ago and brought it to your attention. It'll be interesting if it's the same source. You know you're making an impact when the competition stoops to a level like this. Keep up the good work! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Seaman Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question This is completely UNTRUE! I would like to find out who sent you this email because it is absolutely false and slanderous. If you don't mind I would really appreciate if you could send me a copy of the email off-list. Thank you very much. John Seaman Trango Systems, Inc. j...@trangosys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Wallace Walcher Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Trango Question I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want to consider another product. Can anyone confirm/refute this? I have been seriously looking at their licensed links. Thanks. Wallace L. Walcher Airosurf Communications, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Question
Umm. Coming from a competitor, I would not trust that comment. I have no knowledge of what engineering staff Trango has or hasn't recently let go. I know that the typical people that I deal with at Trango are still there, and have been there for years. I will say, Trango has always made their employees justify their worth, and does not keep them around, if they do not deliver results as required by their job description. Savy mangement is one of the things that allows a manufacturer to deliver cost effective products that work. Its very feasible that staff could have been retired that were not relevent to their current vision and direction. Employees come and go, in any company. Its also no secret that Trango is not further developing their PtMP line, (it is already at a mature state, and is what it is.), and focusing on higher revenue Licensed PtP. What I will say is Trango is positioned to succeed long term because they own their complete manufacturing cycle. From the manufacturing plant to the far end sales process. I would also say that whether people admit it or not, the country is currently in a depression, or at minimum recession, and it would be normal, and advisable for manufacturers to cut back. For example, if you look at Dragonwave's website at Jan press releases, you'll see that they just laid off significant staff. But I in no way would doubt Dragonwave's ability to succeed. Just like I do not doubt Trango's position to succeed. My personal opinion is to look at who has a substantial base already, and it is likely that these companies will have a higher chance of longevity to get them through economic tough times. Trango for example, has a huge install base of WISPs using their DSSS 5830 series, a unique product, and still a huge need for buying gear, to support their inplace networks. Enough to support Trango's existence, even if their Licensed gear line didn't sell. Although, their licensed line is selling with great success. Although this is not a clear answer to your question, and my personal opinion, I will say Trango and Dragonwave are the two technology companies that I feel truly understand our industry, and where it is heading. They both get it. And they are both positioned pretty well to stay in the game long term. For the first time in recent history, Service Providers have a hard choice in produuct lines. Both products and companies have so much to offer, and they are both so very capable. As a result, true competition is now here. And it appears on occasion, the gloves may come off. But what surely is comming off is profit margin for the manufactures, as the Price wars continue to hit street, and benefits us as buyers. The success of Trango and Dragonwave is no longer on their own shoulders. It is now a case of whether Service providers will scale their networks and start increasing their buying patterns. Where as the the country is in recession, the broadband industry apears to be growing, as does the need for it. What I am very please about, is that these two fine companies ahve stepped forward to deliver us the products that we need, so that our industry can succeed, in these very competitive times. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Wallace Walcher wall...@airosurf.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:33 PM Subject: [WISPA] Trango Question I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want to consider another product. Can anyone confirm/refute this? I have been seriously looking at their licensed links. Thanks. Wallace L. Walcher Airosurf Communications, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.9/1902 - Release Date: 1/19/2009 9:37 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Question
I'd like to point out that my comment comes from some things I heard probably 6 months or so ago... Guess its one of those rumors that won't die :-) I'd also be interested who said it... interesting that someone feels that they need to say something like that to win your business. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question John, as you know we also heard this rumor some time ago and brought it to your attention. It'll be interesting if it's the same source. You know you're making an impact when the competition stoops to a level like this. Keep up the good work! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Seaman Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question This is completely UNTRUE! I would like to find out who sent you this email because it is absolutely false and slanderous. If you don't mind I would really appreciate if you could send me a copy of the email off-list. Thank you very much. John Seaman Trango Systems, Inc. j...@trangosys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Wallace Walcher Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Trango Question I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want to consider another product. Can anyone confirm/refute this? I have been seriously looking at their licensed links. Thanks. Wallace L. Walcher Airosurf Communications, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Question
I replied back to John offlist with the basic source. I am glad to know it is not true. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM, John Seaman j...@trangosys.com wrote: This is completely UNTRUE! I would like to find out who sent you this email because it is absolutely false and slanderous. If you don't mind I would really appreciate if you could send me a copy of the email off-list. Thank you very much. John Seaman Trango Systems, Inc. j...@trangosys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Wallace Walcher Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Trango Question I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want to consider another product. Can anyone confirm/refute this? I have been seriously looking at their licensed links. Thanks. Wallace L. Walcher Airosurf Communications, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Question
Thanks Brad! I guess the rumor mill is running out of new rumors so they are recycling some old ones. As I mentioned, our engineering resources are well intact. In fact for anyone interested, I would like to make an invitation to come see for yourself and visit us at our facilities in the San Diego area. We love to give factory tours. We do offer free training on-site here on the last Thursday of each month, and a training day would be an excellent time for a visit (especially if you want to escape the cold weather this winter). Training covers all aspects of deployment and operation of TrangoLINK-GIGA and APEX products. Anyone interested in training please let me know off-list. Also - I wanted to make a correction to my earlier posting. As somebody pointed out to me - the original statement from the reseller was not slanderous.. it's libel! (I admit I had to look up the definitions) John -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question John, as you know we also heard this rumor some time ago and brought it to your attention. It'll be interesting if it's the same source. You know you're making an impact when the competition stoops to a level like this. Keep up the good work! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Seaman Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question This is completely UNTRUE! I would like to find out who sent you this email because it is absolutely false and slanderous. If you don't mind I would really appreciate if you could send me a copy of the email off-list. Thank you very much. John Seaman Trango Systems, Inc. j...@trangosys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Wallace Walcher Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Trango Question I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want to consider another product. Can anyone confirm/refute this? I have been seriously looking at their licensed links. Thanks. Wallace L. Walcher Airosurf Communications, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
