Re: [WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited
Can you elaborate Travis. What do you mean by unlimited? If a sub downloads say 50 gigs in a month, do you not bother them unless they are impacting an ap, or do you let them keep on going? George Travis Johnson wrote: The unlimited model seems to be working for us for almost 10 years now (with high-speed wireless service). We have some customers that we have to call and explain how it works to them, but for the most part it runs great. They get what they pay for, 24x7. :) Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: HAAA I was right again! The all you can eat idea is gonna HAVE to go out the window. If Comcast can't support the model neither can any of the rest of us. We now give people 6 gigs per month. No cut offs for going over, but there is additional billing... Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited http://www.boston.com/business/personaltech/articles/2007/03/12/not_so_fast_ broadband_providers_tell_big_users/ Per some of the discussions that we have had on here, here is something that came across my desktop today. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited
Unless they are causing a problem with other customers, we just let them go. 99% of the time the issue is an upload running (p2p, virus, etc.) but if they are just downloading, it's fine with me. Travis George Rogato wrote: Can you elaborate Travis. What do you mean by unlimited? If a sub downloads say 50 gigs in a month, do you not bother them unless they are impacting an ap, or do you let them keep on going? George Travis Johnson wrote: The unlimited model seems to be working for us for almost 10 years now (with high-speed wireless service). We have some customers that we have to call and explain how it works to them, but for the most part it runs great. They get what they pay for, 24x7. :) Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: HAAA I was right again! The all you can eat idea is gonna HAVE to go out the window. If Comcast can't support the model neither can any of the rest of us. We now give people 6 gigs per month. No cut offs for going over, but there is additional billing... Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited http://www.boston.com/business/personaltech/articles/2007/03/12/not_so_fast_ broadband_providers_tell_big_users/ Per some of the discussions that we have had on here, here is something that came across my desktop today. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited
The problem is not giving unlimited capacity. The problem is guaranteeing the customers promised perception of speed. Charging per MB or GB transferred does not necessarilly solve the problem. A Denial Of Service type attack or port scanner type appication, can bring a network down to its knees, even with only 32 kbps of data transfer. More and more diverse type applications are being used on the net. What if someone wants a busy news feed for example? Sure this can be partially solved by a Acceptable Use Policy. But my point is its going to get tougher than just tracking the GBs transferred. It might be a requirement to charge people for exceeding PPS limits. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited Can you elaborate Travis. What do you mean by unlimited? If a sub downloads say 50 gigs in a month, do you not bother them unless they are impacting an ap, or do you let them keep on going? George Travis Johnson wrote: The unlimited model seems to be working for us for almost 10 years now (with high-speed wireless service). We have some customers that we have to call and explain how it works to them, but for the most part it runs great. They get what they pay for, 24x7. :) Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: HAAA I was right again! The all you can eat idea is gonna HAVE to go out the window. If Comcast can't support the model neither can any of the rest of us. We now give people 6 gigs per month. No cut offs for going over, but there is additional billing... Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited http://www.boston.com/business/personaltech/articles/2007/03/12/not_so_fast_ broadband_providers_tell_big_users/ Per some of the discussions that we have had on here, here is something that came across my desktop today. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited
Thats the way I do it as well. Travis Johnson wrote: Unless they are causing a problem with other customers, we just let them go. 99% of the time the issue is an upload running (p2p, virus, etc.) but if they are just downloading, it's fine with me. Travis George Rogato wrote: Can you elaborate Travis. What do you mean by unlimited? If a sub downloads say 50 gigs in a month, do you not bother them unless they are impacting an ap, or do you let them keep on going? George Travis Johnson wrote: The unlimited model seems to be working for us for almost 10 years now (with high-speed wireless service). We have some customers that we have to call and explain how it works to them, but for the most part it runs great. They get what they pay for, 24x7. :) Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: HAAA I was right again! The all you can eat idea is gonna HAVE to go out the window. If Comcast can't support the model neither can any of the rest of us. We now give people 6 gigs per month. No cut offs for going over, but there is additional billing... Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited http://www.boston.com/business/personaltech/articles/2007/03/12/not_so_fast_ broadband_providers_tell_big_users/ Per some of the discussions that we have had on here, here is something that came across my desktop today. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited
HAAA I was right again! The all you can eat idea is gonna HAVE to go out the window. If Comcast can't support the model neither can any of the rest of us. We now give people 6 gigs per month. No cut offs for going over, but there is additional billing... Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited http://www.boston.com/business/personaltech/articles/2007/03/12/not_so_fast_ broadband_providers_tell_big_users/ Per some of the discussions that we have had on here, here is something that came across my desktop today. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
