Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
It's about time you replied to that guy. I was getting tired of defending
your immoral and dishonest marketing.

You really have some nerve selling 3mb speed for 59 bucks, mister!

Bob-
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

LOL!

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:

 On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote:
  I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he
 does
  not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.

 Maybe it's just my funny sense of humor, but I followed the link to that
 moron's twitter page.  He had a link to a story that was shortened by
 tr.im.  When I clicked the link, here is what I got:



I went to his website and sent him a
  challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have.  I gave
 him
  my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll buy
 it.
  I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at
 http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/
  and ask him to help you out as well.  Let him actually be part of the
  solution instead of just another noise maker.
 
  Bob-
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living and
 how
  much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much!
 
  On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West
  robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
 
   I suppose not.  I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time and
  that
   guy rattled my box.  He also replied and I in turn added more to the
  debate
   but people like that are in the more for me frame of mind and all
   business
   owners are rich and greedy.
  
   Bob-
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of RickG
   Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
  
   I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking
  
   On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West
   robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
  
Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.
   
Bob-
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
   
Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!
   
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:
   
 Good to see you're beating on him Mike.

 The original post and comments section are here:

   
  
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments

 Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.

 George

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
 wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
   On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 http://www.benton.org/node/30268


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes, so 
that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte 
transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win against 
these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.

Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.


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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 http://www.benton.org/node/30268


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
My bad.  I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male fashion,
fail to proofread!  

BTW, I really hate my bad.  Somehow it seemed right though.  :)

Bob-

Thanks, Mike.  I really do appreciate the checks on this.  My T1 speed is
stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not
digital.  They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to about
1mb.  However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still
generalized it as 1mb.  Not accurate at all, I admit.  Just my old showing
through.  

Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes, so 
that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte 
transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win against

these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.

Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 http://www.benton.org/node/30268


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
Hah! I just rolled out my new plans with faster speeds, up to 6Mbps. He'll
flip. I still cant figure out what his deal is. -RickG

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 It's about time you replied to that guy. I was getting tired of defending
 your immoral and dishonest marketing.

 You really have some nerve selling 3mb speed for 59 bucks, mister!

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:23 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 LOL!

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com
 wrote:

  On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote:
   I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he
  does
   not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.
 
  Maybe it's just my funny sense of humor, but I followed the link to that
  moron's twitter page.  He had a link to a story that was shortened by
  tr.im.  When I clicked the link, here is what I got:
 
 
 
 I went to his website and sent him a
   challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have.  I gave
  him
   my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll
 buy
  it.
   I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at
  http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/
   and ask him to help you out as well.  Let him actually be part of the
   solution instead of just another noise maker.
  
   Bob-
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of RickG
   Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
  
   Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living and
  how
   much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much!
  
   On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West
   robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
  
I suppose not.  I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time
 and
   that
guy rattled my box.  He also replied and I in turn added more to the
   debate
but people like that are in the more for me frame of mind and all
business
owners are rich and greedy.
   
Bob-
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
   
I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking
   
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
   
 Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
 Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
 wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
 ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:

  Good to see you're beating on him Mike.
 
  The original post and comments section are here:
 

   
 
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments
 
  Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.
 
  George
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
  wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  http://www.benton.org/node/30268
 
 
  -
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  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
 
 


   
   
  
 

 
 
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
Don't rain on my make fun of the people that don't know anything about
ISPs parade. -j/k u!

Thats the trouble with these people. We're too busy doing the work to catch
our typing abilities. I almost didnt post but Bob needed some backup.
-RickG

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes, so
 that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
 transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win
 against
 these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.

 Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

  http://www.benton.org/node/30268
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
LP or 78?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 My bad.  I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male fashion,
 fail to proofread!

 BTW, I really hate my bad.  Somehow it seemed right though.  :)

 Bob-

 Thanks, Mike.  I really do appreciate the checks on this.  My T1 speed is
 stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not
 digital.  They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to about
 1mb.  However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still
 generalized it as 1mb.  Not accurate at all, I admit.  Just my old
 showing
 through.

 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes, so
 that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
 transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win
 against

 these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.

 Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

  http://www.benton.org/node/30268
 
 
  -
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  Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
You charge too much.  Don't you know it's supposed to be a hobby and not a
business?  You are a very bad man.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

Hah! I just rolled out my new plans with faster speeds, up to 6Mbps. He'll
flip. I still cant figure out what his deal is. -RickG

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 It's about time you replied to that guy. I was getting tired of defending
 your immoral and dishonest marketing.

 You really have some nerve selling 3mb speed for 59 bucks, mister!

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:23 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 LOL!

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com
 wrote:

  On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote:
   I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he
  does
   not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.
 
  Maybe it's just my funny sense of humor, but I followed the link to that
  moron's twitter page.  He had a link to a story that was shortened by
  tr.im.  When I clicked the link, here is what I got:
 
 
 
 I went to his website and sent him a
   challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have.  I
gave
  him
   my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll
 buy
  it.
   I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at
  http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/
   and ask him to help you out as well.  Let him actually be part of the
   solution instead of just another noise maker.
  
   Bob-
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of RickG
   Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
  
   Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living
and
  how
   much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much!
  
   On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West
   robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
  
I suppose not.  I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time
 and
   that
guy rattled my box.  He also replied and I in turn added more to the
   debate
but people like that are in the more for me frame of mind and all
business
owners are rich and greedy.
   
Bob-
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
   
I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking
   
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
   
 Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
 Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
 wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
 ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:

  Good to see you're beating on him Mike.
 
  The original post and comments section are here:
 

   
 
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments
 
  Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.
 
  George
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
  wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  http://www.benton.org/node/30268
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
 
 


   
   
  
 



 
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
Not sure.  How fast does an MP3 spin?



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

LP or 78?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 My bad.  I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male
fashion,
 fail to proofread!

 BTW, I really hate my bad.  Somehow it seemed right though.  :)

 Bob-

 Thanks, Mike.  I really do appreciate the checks on this.  My T1 speed is
 stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not
 digital.  They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to about
 1mb.  However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still
 generalized it as 1mb.  Not accurate at all, I admit.  Just my old
 showing
 through.

 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes,
so
 that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
 transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win
 against

 these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.

 Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

  http://www.benton.org/node/30268
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
I get those people once in a while. The last one turned around and asked me
if I needed installers. I said, sure, if your doing it for a hobby, your
hired!

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 You charge too much.  Don't you know it's supposed to be a hobby and not a
 business?  You are a very bad man.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Hah! I just rolled out my new plans with faster speeds, up to 6Mbps. He'll
 flip. I still cant figure out what his deal is. -RickG

 On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

  It's about time you replied to that guy. I was getting tired of defending
  your immoral and dishonest marketing.
 
  You really have some nerve selling 3mb speed for 59 bucks, mister!
 
  Bob-
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:23 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  LOL!
 
  On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com
  wrote:
 
   On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote:
I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he
   does
not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.
  
   Maybe it's just my funny sense of humor, but I followed the link to
 that
   moron's twitter page.  He had a link to a story that was shortened by
   tr.im.  When I clicked the link, here is what I got:
  
  
  
  I went to his website and sent him a
challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have.  I
 gave
   him
my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll
  buy
   it.
I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at
   http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/
and ask him to help you out as well.  Let him actually be part of the
solution instead of just another noise maker.
   
Bob-
   
   
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
   
Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living
 and
   how
much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much!
   
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
   
 I suppose not.  I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time
  and
that
 guy rattled my box.  He also replied and I in turn added more to
 the
debate
 but people like that are in the more for me frame of mind and all
 business
 owners are rich and greedy.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
 wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
   On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

  Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
  Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.
 
  Bob-
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
  wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
   On
  Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!
 
  On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
  ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:
 
   Good to see you're beating on him Mike.
  
   The original post and comments section are here:
  
 

  
 
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments
  
   Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.
  
   George
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
   wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of Mike Hammett
   Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
   To: wireless@wispa.org
   Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
  
   http://www.benton.org/node/30268
  
  
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   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 


   
  
 
 

 
  
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
at $40/meg  ;P

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Not sure.  How fast does an MP3 spin?



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:31 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 LP or 78?

 On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

  My bad.  I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male
 fashion,
  fail to proofread!
 
  BTW, I really hate my bad.  Somehow it seemed right though.  :)
 
  Bob-
 
  Thanks, Mike.  I really do appreciate the checks on this.  My T1 speed is
  stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not
  digital.  They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to
 about
  1mb.  However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still
  generalized it as 1mb.  Not accurate at all, I admit.  Just my old
  showing
  through.
 
  Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes,
 so
  that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
  transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win
  against
 
  these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.
 
  Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  --
  From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
   http://www.benton.org/node/30268
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Marco Coelho
T-1 = 1.544 Mbits/sec in either direction full duplex.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes, so
 that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
 transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win against
 these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.

 Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.


 -
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 http://www.ics-il.com



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 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 http://www.benton.org/node/30268


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Scottie Arnett
Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...

LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a 
pothead that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit everyone 
on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the MTV channel(back 
when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I would put a CD in 
the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it up. The pothead would 
come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and say, Dude, thats a kick a@@ 
tune. When did AC/DC start singing country songs? Geez.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500

LP or 78?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 My bad.  I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male fashion,
 fail to proofread!

 BTW, I really hate my bad.  Somehow it seemed right though.  :)

 Bob-

 Thanks, Mike.  I really do appreciate the checks on this.  My T1 speed is
 stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not
 digital.  They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to about
 1mb.  However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still
 generalized it as 1mb.  Not accurate at all, I admit.  Just my old
 showing
 through.

 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes, so
 that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
 transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win
 against

 these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.

 Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

  http://www.benton.org/node/30268
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Off topic???

On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:
 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...

 LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a
 pothead that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit
 everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the MTV
 channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I
 would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it up.
 The pothead would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and say,
 Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country songs?
 Geez.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500

LP or 78?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 My bad.  I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male
 fashion,
 fail to proofread!

 BTW, I really hate my bad.  Somehow it seemed right though.  :)

 Bob-

 Thanks, Mike.  I really do appreciate the checks on this.  My T1 speed is
 stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not
 digital.  They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to
 about
 1mb.  However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still
 generalized it as 1mb.  Not accurate at all, I admit.  Just my old
 showing
 through.

 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes,
 so
 that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
 transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win
 against

 these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.

 Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

  http://www.benton.org/node/30268
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
This thread has been teetering on the edge of being off topic since it
started.  :)



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:38 PM
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

Off topic???

On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:
 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...

 LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a
 pothead that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit
 everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the
MTV
 channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I
 would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it up.
 The pothead would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and say,
 Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country songs?
 Geez.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500

LP or 78?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 My bad.  I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male
 fashion,
 fail to proofread!

 BTW, I really hate my bad.  Somehow it seemed right though.  :)

 Bob-

 Thanks, Mike.  I really do appreciate the checks on this.  My T1 speed
is
 stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not
 digital.  They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to
 about
 1mb.  However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we
still
 generalized it as 1mb.  Not accurate at all, I admit.  Just my old
 showing
 through.

 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes,
 so
 that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
 transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win
 against

 these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.

 Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
So ya...

Idiot news guy...T1spot head smoking next door.  Exponential - not linear.

On 12/5/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 This thread has been teetering on the edge of being off topic since it
 started.  :)



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:38 PM
 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Off topic???

 On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:
 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...

 LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a
 pothead that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit
 everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the
 MTV
 channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I
 would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it up.
 The pothead would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and say,
 Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country songs?
 Geez.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500

LP or 78?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 My bad.  I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male
 fashion,
 fail to proofread!

 BTW, I really hate my bad.  Somehow it seemed right though.  :)

 Bob-

 Thanks, Mike.  I really do appreciate the checks on this.  My T1 speed
 is
 stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not
 digital.  They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to
 about
 1mb.  However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we
 still
 generalized it as 1mb.  Not accurate at all, I admit.  Just my old
 showing
 through.

 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes,
 so
 that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
 transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win
 against

 these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.

 Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.


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 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
Yup.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

So ya...

Idiot news guy...T1spot head smoking next door.  Exponential - not
linear.

On 12/5/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 This thread has been teetering on the edge of being off topic since it
 started.  :)



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:38 PM
 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Off topic???

 On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:
 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...

 LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a
 pothead that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit
 everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the
 MTV
 channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I
 would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it
up.
 The pothead would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and
say,
 Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country
songs?
 Geez.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500

LP or 78?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 My bad.  I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male
 fashion,
 fail to proofread!

 BTW, I really hate my bad.  Somehow it seemed right though.  :)

 Bob-

 Thanks, Mike.  I really do appreciate the checks on this.  My T1 speed
 is
 stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not
 digital.  They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to
 about
 1mb.  However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we
 still
 generalized it as 1mb.  Not accurate at all, I admit.  Just my old
 showing
 through.

 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used
megabytes,
 so
 that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
 transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win
 against

 these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.

 Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



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 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Wrong thread maybe?

On 12/5/09, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:
 It does, Netflix is served via many different geographical locations
 utlizing geographical DNS based on information about your AS #.
 Sometimes folks are routed to Netflix streaming mirrors which aren't the
 best, and therefore play at a lower resolution. I don't have this
 problem, but I'm aware of ISP's who have created a local zone in their
 resolving DNS for Netflix's streaming mirrors. If you check the Roku
 player forums you will find this advise coming from their engineers as
 well.

 So basically you are saying its best to use a DNS server on your
 cheapest backbone provider?

 Matt


 
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
LOL! The next day you should've put on CMT and played AC/DC!

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:

 Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...

 LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a
 pothead that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit
 everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the MTV
 channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I
 would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it up.
 The pothead would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and say,
 Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country songs?
 Geez.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500

 LP or 78?
 
 On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 
  My bad.  I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male
 fashion,
  fail to proofread!
 
  BTW, I really hate my bad.  Somehow it seemed right though.  :)
 
  Bob-
 
  Thanks, Mike.  I really do appreciate the checks on this.  My T1 speed
 is
  stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not
  digital.  They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to
 about
  1mb.  However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we
 still
  generalized it as 1mb.  Not accurate at all, I admit.  Just my old
  showing
  through.
 
  Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes,
 so
  that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
  transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win
  against
 
  these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.
 
  Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  --
  From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
   http://www.benton.org/node/30268
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
What Buffoon :)
Maybe off topic as far as the list goes though. Oh well, its the weekend and
we got our fist snow :(

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Off topic???

 On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:
  Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...
 
  LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a
  pothead that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit
  everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the
 MTV
  channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I
  would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it
 up.
  The pothead would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and
 say,
  Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country
 songs?
  Geez.
 
  Scottie
 
  -- Original Message --
  From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Date:  Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500
 
 LP or 78?
 
 On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West
  robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
 
  My bad.  I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male
  fashion,
  fail to proofread!
 
  BTW, I really hate my bad.  Somehow it seemed right though.  :)
 
  Bob-
 
  Thanks, Mike.  I really do appreciate the checks on this.  My T1 speed
 is
  stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not
  digital.  They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to
  about
  1mb.  However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we
 still
  generalized it as 1mb.  Not accurate at all, I admit.  Just my old
  showing
  through.
 
  Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record...
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used
 megabytes,
  so
  that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte
  transferred.  He's correct on that, I hope.  You can't expect to win
  against
 
  these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself.
 
  Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1.
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  --
  From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
   http://www.benton.org/node/30268
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
No, this came from a post on the Buffoon article.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Wrong thread maybe?

 On 12/5/09, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:
  It does, Netflix is served via many different geographical locations
  utlizing geographical DNS based on information about your AS #.
  Sometimes folks are routed to Netflix streaming mirrors which aren't the
  best, and therefore play at a lower resolution. I don't have this
  problem, but I'm aware of ISP's who have created a local zone in their
  resolving DNS for Netflix's streaming mirrors. If you check the Roku
  player forums you will find this advise coming from their engineers as
  well.
 
  So basically you are saying its best to use a DNS server on your
  cheapest backbone provider?
 
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Dylan Bouterse
ISPs really have no idea if these people are causing any sort of actual
congestion at all.

Really?? I have no idea do I Mr. Felten??

Just don't tell my boss. He doesn't know Bandwidth Hogs are mythical
and it's job security!

Dylan


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I hate bandwidth hogs, I cut their speed down to 256k and when they whine I
tell them to go get Verizon Air Card and enjoy their new 5GB monthly cap.
There's a special place in the fiery depths for the people that consume
double what the rest of your ENTIRE customer base combined uses. 

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Robert West
Hmm  So someone should send him a live link to their MT
graphs.  He can then make his judgment with real data.

 

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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

ISPs really have no idea if these people are causing any sort of actual
congestion at all.

Really?? I have no idea do I Mr. Felten??

Just don't tell my boss. He doesn't know Bandwidth Hogs are mythical
and it's job security!

Dylan


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread George Morris
Good to see you're beating on him Mike. 

The original post and comments section are here:
http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments

Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.

George 

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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread RickG
Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:

 Good to see you're beating on him Mike.

 The original post and comments section are here:
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments

 Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.

 George

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 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Mike Hammett
Who uses unlimited in their advertising anymore?


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From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Good to see you're beating on him Mike.

 The original post and comments section are here:
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments

 Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.

 George

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 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 http://www.benton.org/node/30268


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread RickG
Not here. I thought that went out with dial-up. But, I'm not sure it would
necessarily be a bad thing. Unlimited just needs to be defined. -RickG

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Who uses unlimited in their advertising anymore?


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 From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:56 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

  Good to see you're beating on him Mike.
 
  The original post and comments section are here:
 
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments
 
  Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.
 
  George
 
  -Original Message-
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  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
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  Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  http://www.benton.org/node/30268
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Robert West
Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.  

Bob-



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Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:

 Good to see you're beating on him Mike.

 The original post and comments section are here:
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments

 Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.

 George

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 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 http://www.benton.org/node/30268


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread RickG
I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
 Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
 ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:

  Good to see you're beating on him Mike.
 
  The original post and comments section are here:
 
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments
 
  Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.
 
  George
 
  -Original Message-
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  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  http://www.benton.org/node/30268
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Mike Hammett
I am looking at the Ars article now.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/12/bandwidth-hogs-dont-even-exist-says-analyst.ars?utm_source=rssutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=rss?comments=1#_login

Apparently switching DNS makes your NetFlix look better.  LOL


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From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:56 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Good to see you're beating on him Mike.

 The original post and comments section are here:
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments

 Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.

 George

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 http://www.benton.org/node/30268


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Michael Baird
Mike,

It does, Netflix is served via many different geographical locations 
utlizing geographical DNS based on information about your AS #. 
Sometimes folks are routed to Netflix streaming mirrors which aren't the 
best, and therefore play at a lower resolution. I don't have this 
problem, but I'm aware of ISP's who have created a local zone in their 
resolving DNS for Netflix's streaming mirrors. If you check the Roku 
player forums you will find this advise coming from their engineers as well.

Regards
Michael Baird
 I am looking at the Ars article now.

 http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/12/bandwidth-hogs-dont-even-exist-says-analyst.ars?utm_source=rssutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=rss?comments=1#_login

 Apparently switching DNS makes your NetFlix look better.  LOL


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 --
 From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:56 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

   
 Good to see you're beating on him Mike.

 The original post and comments section are here:
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments

 Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.

 George

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 http://www.benton.org/node/30268


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread George Morris
All y'all ROCK. This is good stuff!

George 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:02 PM
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Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.  

Bob-



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:

 Good to see you're beating on him Mike.

 The original post and comments section are here:
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments

 Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.

 George

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Mike Hammett
Don't rain on my make fun of the people that don't know anything about 
ISPs parade.


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From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:40 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Mike,

 It does, Netflix is served via many different geographical locations
 utlizing geographical DNS based on information about your AS #.
 Sometimes folks are routed to Netflix streaming mirrors which aren't the
 best, and therefore play at a lower resolution. I don't have this
 problem, but I'm aware of ISP's who have created a local zone in their
 resolving DNS for Netflix's streaming mirrors. If you check the Roku
 player forums you will find this advise coming from their engineers as 
 well.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
 I am looking at the Ars article now.

 http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/12/bandwidth-hogs-dont-even-exist-says-analyst.ars?utm_source=rssutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=rss?comments=1#_login

 Apparently switching DNS makes your NetFlix look better.  LOL


 -
 Mike Hammett
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 --
 From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:56 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..


 Good to see you're beating on him Mike.

 The original post and comments section are here:
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments

 Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.

 George

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 http://www.benton.org/node/30268


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Robert West
I suppose not.  I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time and that
guy rattled my box.  He also replied and I in turn added more to the debate
but people like that are in the more for me frame of mind and all business
owners are rich and greedy.

Bob-



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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
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I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
 Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
 ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:

  Good to see you're beating on him Mike.
 
  The original post and comments section are here:
 
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments
 
  Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.
 
  George
 
  -Original Message-
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  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  http://www.benton.org/node/30268
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread RickG
Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living and how
much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much!

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 I suppose not.  I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time and that
 guy rattled my box.  He also replied and I in turn added more to the debate
 but people like that are in the more for me frame of mind and all
 business
 owners are rich and greedy.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

  Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
  Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.
 
  Bob-
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
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  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!
 
  On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
  ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:
 
   Good to see you're beating on him Mike.
  
   The original post and comments section are here:
  
 
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments
  
   Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.
  
   George
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of Mike Hammett
   Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
   To: wireless@wispa.org
   Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
  
   http://www.benton.org/node/30268
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Robert West
I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he does
not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.  I went to his website and sent him a
challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have.  I gave him
my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll buy it.
I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/
and ask him to help you out as well.  Let him actually be part of the
solution instead of just another noise maker.

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living and how
much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much!

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 I suppose not.  I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time and
that
 guy rattled my box.  He also replied and I in turn added more to the
debate
 but people like that are in the more for me frame of mind and all
 business
 owners are rich and greedy.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

  Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
  Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.
 
  Bob-
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!
 
  On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
  ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:
 
   Good to see you're beating on him Mike.
  
   The original post and comments section are here:
  
 
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments
  
   Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.
  
   George
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of Mike Hammett
   Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
   To: wireless@wispa.org
   Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
  
   http://www.benton.org/node/30268
  
  
   -
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   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 



  
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote: 
 I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he does
 not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.

Maybe it's just my funny sense of humor, but I followed the link to that
moron's twitter page.  He had a link to a story that was shortened by
tr.im.  When I clicked the link, here is what I got:



   I went to his website and sent him a
 challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have.  I gave him
 my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll buy it.
 I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/
 and ask him to help you out as well.  Let him actually be part of the
 solution instead of just another noise maker.
 
 Bob-
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
 Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living and how
 much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much!
 
 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
 
  I suppose not.  I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time and
 that
  guy rattled my box.  He also replied and I in turn added more to the
 debate
  but people like that are in the more for me frame of mind and all
  business
  owners are rich and greedy.
 
  Bob-
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking
 
  On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West
  robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
 
   Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
   Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.
  
   Bob-
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
   Behalf Of RickG
   Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
  
   Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!
  
   On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
   ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:
  
Good to see you're beating on him Mike.
   
The original post and comments section are here:
   
  
  http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments
   
Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.
   
George
   
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
   
http://www.benton.org/node/30268
   
   
-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
   
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
   
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote: 
 I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he does
 not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.  

Sorry, HERE is what I got (I found this absolutely HILARIOUS): 
Oops ... Sorry!
tr.im is currently overloaded.
tr.im is currently unavailable because of exccessive load, or a spike in
simultaneous requests that our servers were unable to handle in an
orderly fashion.

We are committed to tr.im's reliability, and are always monitoring our
network's capacity and always taking steps to help ensure you never see
our fail banana.

Please try your request again now, or in a few minutes. We apologize for
any inconvenience.


-- 

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* http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering  *
* http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks   *
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Robert West
Do ya think maybe he should contact his host so that he can pay for more
dedicated server access???  I'm sure it would only be 6 or 7 bucks more or
possibly even free!

Dang!  

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote: 
 I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he does
 not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.  

Sorry, HERE is what I got (I found this absolutely HILARIOUS): 
Oops ... Sorry!
tr.im is currently overloaded.
tr.im is currently unavailable because of exccessive load, or a spike in
simultaneous requests that our servers were unable to handle in an
orderly fashion.

We are committed to tr.im's reliability, and are always monitoring our
network's capacity and always taking steps to help ensure you never see
our fail banana.

Please try your request again now, or in a few minutes. We apologize for
any inconvenience.


-- 

* Butch Evans   * Professional Network Consultation*
* http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering  *
* http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks   *
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Grin

Wicked idea.  Here's what I sent:
Hiya,

Saw your post about bandwidth hogs and caps.  We pay $200 per MEG out here 
in Odessa Washington (99159).  If you can find something lower than that (I 
buy 10 megs right now but will have to double that in the next 12 months or 
so) I'd buy in a heartbeat!

My other system (in the next county over) runs $99 per meg but is billed at 
95% instead of average, so in the end it's almost as high as the $200 
average per meb pricing.

In Spokane it's as low as $40 or $50 for the junk service.  Transport for 
the 70 miles to me is not even an option.

Oh yeah, I have to pay $800 per month (on top of the $5000 install fee) just 
for the fiber drop!

Thanks for checking into this for me.
Marlon K. Schafer
Owner
www.odessaoffice.com
www.accima.com


marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..


I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he does
 not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.  I went to his website and sent him 
 a
 challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have.  I gave 
 him
 my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll buy 
 it.
 I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/
 and ask him to help you out as well.  Let him actually be part of the
 solution instead of just another noise maker.

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living and 
 how
 much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much!

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 I suppose not.  I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time and
 that
 guy rattled my box.  He also replied and I in turn added more to the
 debate
 but people like that are in the more for me frame of mind and all
 business
 owners are rich and greedy.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

  Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
  Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.
 
  Bob-
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!
 
  On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
  ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:
 
   Good to see you're beating on him Mike.
  
   The original post and comments section are here:
  
 
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments
  
   Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.
  
   George
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of Mike Hammett
   Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
   To: wireless@wispa.org
   Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
  
   http://www.benton.org/node/30268
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 


 
  
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread Robert West
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  Oh, yeah!  Me like that one.  I bet old boy
doesn't make one phone call to check to see that we're right.  They hate to
have their reality challenged.

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

Grin

Wicked idea.  Here's what I sent:
Hiya,

Saw your post about bandwidth hogs and caps.  We pay $200 per MEG out here 
in Odessa Washington (99159).  If you can find something lower than that (I 
buy 10 megs right now but will have to double that in the next 12 months or 
so) I'd buy in a heartbeat!

My other system (in the next county over) runs $99 per meg but is billed at 
95% instead of average, so in the end it's almost as high as the $200 
average per meb pricing.

In Spokane it's as low as $40 or $50 for the junk service.  Transport for 
the 70 miles to me is not even an option.

Oh yeah, I have to pay $800 per month (on top of the $5000 install fee) just

for the fiber drop!

Thanks for checking into this for me.
Marlon K. Schafer
Owner
www.odessaoffice.com
www.accima.com


marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..


I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he does
 not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.  I went to his website and sent him 
 a
 challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have.  I gave 
 him
 my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll buy 
 it.
 I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/
 and ask him to help you out as well.  Let him actually be part of the
 solution instead of just another noise maker.

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living and 
 how
 much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much!

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 I suppose not.  I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time and
 that
 guy rattled my box.  He also replied and I in turn added more to the
 debate
 but people like that are in the more for me frame of mind and all
 business
 owners are rich and greedy.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

  Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
  Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.
 
  Bob-
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!
 
  On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
  ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:
 
   Good to see you're beating on him Mike.
  
   The original post and comments section are here:
  
 

http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments
  
   Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.
  
   George
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of Mike Hammett
   Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
   To: wireless@wispa.org
   Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..
  
   http://www.benton.org/node/30268
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 




  
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread RickG
LOL!

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:

 On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote:
  I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he
 does
  not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.

 Maybe it's just my funny sense of humor, but I followed the link to that
 moron's twitter page.  He had a link to a story that was shortened by
 tr.im.  When I clicked the link, here is what I got:



I went to his website and sent him a
  challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have.  I gave
 him
  my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll buy
 it.
  I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at
 http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/
  and ask him to help you out as well.  Let him actually be part of the
  solution instead of just another noise maker.
 
  Bob-
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
 
  Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living and
 how
  much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much!
 
  On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West
  robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
 
   I suppose not.  I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time and
  that
   guy rattled my box.  He also replied and I in turn added more to the
  debate
   but people like that are in the more for me frame of mind and all
   business
   owners are rich and greedy.
  
   Bob-
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of RickG
   Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
  
   I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? ducking
  
   On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West
   robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
  
Thanks.  Couldn't hold it in.  Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom.
Eatmoresoap is my alter ego.
   
Bob-
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
   
Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head!
   
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris
ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote:
   
 Good to see you're beating on him Mike.

 The original post and comments section are here:

   
  
 http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments

 Some of the comments are pretty well thought out.

 George

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 wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
   On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 http://www.benton.org/node/30268


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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-04 Thread RickG
Heck, he might be hosting it on dial-up!

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Do ya think maybe he should contact his host so that he can pay for more
 dedicated server access???  I'm sure it would only be 6 or 7 bucks more or
 possibly even free!

 Dang!

 Bob-


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Butch Evans
 Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:42 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

 On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote:
  I went a bit further on this.  That Stop the Cap guy posted that he
 does
  not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb.

 Sorry, HERE is what I got (I found this absolutely HILARIOUS):
 Oops ... Sorry!
 tr.im is currently overloaded.
 tr.im is currently unavailable because of exccessive load, or a spike in
 simultaneous requests that our servers were unable to handle in an
 orderly fashion.

 We are committed to tr.im's reliability, and are always monitoring our
 network's capacity and always taking steps to help ensure you never see
 our fail banana.

 Please try your request again now, or in a few minutes. We apologize for
 any inconvenience.


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